Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Humiliated modis India is more dangerous to do any adventure. What they can do is
  • Naxy adventure. Which will be more problematic as downing warship in retaliation means 80-100 personal killed as well.
  • Sudden Kinetic sead operation, barrage of missile and drones ( attacking air defense). Followed by a war
  • Army to take some area ( not possible as 100% possiblity the o many of human loses)
  • Air force adventure... Only possible of surprise long range weapons... Nothing more than that.

Next war preparation has started by both ends.
 
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The Indian focus on more SU30 plus S400 to me is a clue that their future attacks on Pakistan will entirely be BrahMos launched from SU30 deep inside India and then to handle the Pakistani attack.
One of the key issues is the regular lag between their attack and our counterattack. As if we are unprepared despite all the warnings.

Politically, the ineptitude of our leadership is a huge problem, causing delays in decision making at these junctures.

Pakistan needs to attack first, and in the correctly elaborated context, can do so. Enough of this "we always encourage negotiation" garbage, when the enemy doesn't wish to talk and also when we know that the enemy will willingly strike first, and overwhelmingly so.

If it is absolutely impossible to attack first, then our missile barrage needs to be up within an hour or two of theirs. There can be no more complacency in our national doctrine and no more belief that these people will "talk" - they are too far gone into the sanghee delusion. Rabid dogs need dealing with. It really is that simple.
 
Seems like they are panicking, almost as if they are a couple of S-400 systems short....
What good is S-400 at the first place? ASELSAN KORAL + deadly kinetic strikes can play with it like a cat plays with a mouse before devouring it....
 
The Indian focus on more SU30 plus S400 to me is a clue that their future attacks on Pakistan will entirely be BrahMos launched from SU30 deep inside India and then to handle the Pakistani attack.

India Cruise missile surprise is now gone. Pakistan will start with ballistic/cruise missiles of its own along with superior airforce will be deadly for India. Hence I dont see India starting next conflict anytime soon.

Even Fatah rockets created havoc in India.
 
Next time Please don't do this cinematic photo shoot of taking permission to retaliate and then, the prime minister grants you permission, as if the servants of the people are very obedient to Civilian supremacy.

When did the enemy announce to the world that they are dividing Pakistan into half or taking permission from the prime minister in front of the cameras, to invade East Pakistan ?

When did the enemy announce to the world that they are capturing Siachen Glacier or 4 villages in Gilgit Baltistan [ Still waiting to be taken back by Pakistan ] , or taking permission from the prime minister, for the said purpose, in front of the cameras ?

"The committee authorised Pakistan’s armed forces to undertake retaliatory action, asserting the country’s right to self-defence under Article 51 of the UN Charter."

“We will respond decisively. One strike will be met with two.”


If the enemy does attack, please don't wait to counter attack and that too 10 times more and the the farthest end / tip of the enemy land.
 
After Iran Israel conflict .....the era of subsonic and supersonic missiles is almost come to end......

Remember, most of the Iranian hits were scored via hyperspnic missiles ....Iran in initial days of conflict launched 100s of older missiles ....the launch time and type of missile were predictible.....but the last four days the factor of uncertainty was applied....with Hypersonic systems .....and the entire Israeli AD gone less effective.

So India ...will heavily rely on surface launch bhramos system in coming conflict ......
 
After Iran Israel conflict .....the era of subsonic and supersonic missiles is almost come to end......

Remember, most of the Iranian hits were scored via hyperspnic missiles ....Iran in initial days of conflict launched 100s of older missiles ....the launch time and type of missile were predictible.....but the last four days the factor of uncertainty was applied....with Hypersonic systems .....and the entire Israeli AD gone less effective.

So India ...will heavily rely on surface launch bhramos system in coming conflict ......
Include naval launched BrahMos as well. They have been making cryptic noises about their Navy and I think they will try to score points in Indian Ocean by attacking some facility or ship. It's all about symbolic point scoring.
 

PAF vs IAF: Strategy, Power & Lessons from Operation Bunyanum Marsoos | Pakistan's Former Air Chief​

The former PAF Chief is categorical in his assertion: IAF is ten-years behind the PAF in doctrines, networking, integration, strategies, training, planning, operations, tactics, execution etc. SubhanAllah....

La Galibe Illallah...
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PAF vs IAF: Strategy, Power & Lessons from Operation Bunyanum Marsoos | Pakistan's Former Air Chief​

The former PAF Chief is categorical in his assertion: IAF is ten-years behind the PAF in doctrines, networking, strategies, training, planning, operations, tactics, execution etc. SubhanAllah....

La Galibe Illallah...
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And IAF will learn and fix their issues, so PAF will need to move the advantage to another new 10 year lead and the J-35AE, HQ19 and KJ500 will help to form part of that, as will the Kaan, Akinci, Kizilelma, ANKA3 help as well as home grown solutions.

It never ends, things are never static and I do think the PAF understands that relentless march forward.
 
Next time Please don't do this cinematic photo shoot of taking permission to retaliate and then, the prime minister grants you permission, as if the servants of the people are very obedient to Civilian supremacy.

When did the enemy announce to the world that they are dividing Pakistan into half or taking permission from the prime minister in front of the cameras, to invade East Pakistan ?

When did the enemy announce to the world that they are capturing Siachen Glacier or 4 villages in Gilgit Baltistan [ Still waiting to be taken back by Pakistan ] , or taking permission from the prime minister, for the said purpose, in front of the cameras ?

"The committee authorised Pakistan’s armed forces to undertake retaliatory action, asserting the country’s right to self-defence under Article 51 of the UN Charter."

“We will respond decisively. One strike will be met with two.”


If the enemy does attack, please don't wait to counter attack and that too 10 times more and the the farthest end / tip of the enemy land.
Applaud (most of) this post and I hope the idiots in suits are reading.

We do not wish to see any politician's face or announcement or "condemnation of Delhi's provocations". Just fire the missiles and talk LATER.

Seriously, nobody will remember condemnations and restraint and appeals for calm and threats of befitting replies. All that matters is the military action, which needs to be decisive against a qom that does not value your life or even your children's lives. The enemy has demonstrated itself to be of a lower moral standard by attacking your civilian resources and your civilian buildings. Why would they care for your words?
 
HE simply tells it, “Be!” And it is! (Sura Al Maryam, Ayet#35)

The most astonishing part of the entire air battles, according to the former PAF Chief, is the silence of the IAF - following the 05-07 actions - like that of the lambs! They just abandoned their duty to safeguard the airspace up to Delhi!! The PAF is preparing for the next war....

Op. Bunyanum Marsoos—How Pakistan Prepared for Modern Warfare? Q&A w/ Sohail Aman, Former Air Chief​


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PAF vs IAF: Strategy, Power & Lessons from Operation Bunyanum Marsoos | Pakistan's Former Air Chief​

The former PAF Chief is categorical in his assertion: IAF is ten-years behind the PAF in doctrines, networking, integration, strategies, training, planning, operations, tactics, execution etc. SubhanAllah....

La Galibe Illallah...
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Great fan of this gentleman 👏 👌 👍

Look at the precise speech .. ...simple professional talk.....
 
After Iran Israel conflict .....the era of subsonic and supersonic missiles is almost come to end......

Remember, most of the Iranian hits were scored via hyperspnic missiles ....Iran in initial days of conflict launched 100s of older missiles ....the launch time and type of missile were predictible.....but the last four days the factor of uncertainty was applied....with Hypersonic systems .....and the entire Israeli AD gone less effective.

So India ...will heavily rely on surface launch bhramos system in coming conflict ......

i beg to disagree, the subsonic and supersonic missiles were strategically used to deplete and exhaust the AD to ensure maximum penetration for the future attacks
 
i beg to disagree, the subsonic and supersonic missiles were strategically used to deplete and exhaust the AD to ensure maximum penetration for the future attacks
G bilkul ....using older missiles in initial response was to deplete Israeli AD capabilities....
 

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