Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Big mistake
Iran is weaker Militarily. How are they going to hash out favorable terms for Iran when Israel is going to get the B2 ?

“We will negotiate with the US as long as promises us. They won’t bomb us while negotiating with us, but it’s OK to bomb us afterwards? “
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Persian Gulf said:
Israel is not getting B2 bombers calm down
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Doubt if B2 will make any difference. israel/US have air domination so unless Iran can come up with a rapid solution they will get heavily bombed and will strike back with heavy missiles. It's a MAD conventional outcome unless China/Russia intervene.
 
FUB said:
Big mistake
Iran is weaker Militarily. How are they going to hash out favorable terms for Iran when Israel is going to get the B2 ?

“We will negotiate with the US as long as promises us. They won’t bomb us while negotiating with us, but it’s OK to bomb us afterwards? “
Treason traders.

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why is everyone talking about Israel getting B-2s did I miss that news update
 
Watandar said:
A bill was submitted in US Congress to lease Israel some B2s. It's unlikely to get passed.
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Is your statement supposed to be satire? “It is unlikely to get passed”
 
FUB said:
Is your statement supposed to be satire? “It is unlikely to get passed”
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Jerusalem Post/US Politics

US lawmakers propose bill to give Israel B-2 bombers, bunker busters against future Iran threat​

The bipartisan bill gives Trump the power to give Israel the power to protect itself against "all contingencies if Iran seeks to develop a nuclear weapon."​

 
HAIDER said:
Jerusalem Post/US Politics

US lawmakers propose bill to give Israel B-2 bombers, bunker busters against future Iran threat​

The bipartisan bill gives Trump the power to give Israel the power to protect itself against "all contingencies if Iran seeks to develop a nuclear weapon."​

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This will never pass.. Giving B-2 Bombers could risk US dominance as the Israelis are heavily embedded with the Russians giving B-2 Bombers would be stragetic mistake as the Russians will reverse engineer it
 
vmro said:
Iranian nationalism is only is only segment of entire Axis confederation (excluding Houthis) that stay fierce and unimpressed for idf/mossad terror and mind games.... When Trump asked for immediate surrender, it was not even clear to Iranians did he is serious about it...

My point is as simple as complex in the same time...

Hezbollah is negotiating partial disarmament, Assad is Moscow, Hamas are ...easy transferable in eventual peace signing...

Indirectly mossad was full with indirect opportunities to penetrate their own personnel...

And if Axis is gone, strategic edge, pinnacle of IR national doctrine unfortunately is eliminated...

for me always, also here in posts, strategy of IR was wise and despite being criticized for being non Iranian, i am not agreeing with that, still...

But regardless of being in my opinion wise, is probably finished....

Iran needs serious national geopolitical debate, inside Iran, with various centers of power in Iranian society, and maybe redefined national doctrine...

Iran should reconsider fundamentals of modern Iran, as Shia powerhouse, maybe this new time has no more same religious influence in other Shia communities...

I am not sure if this is true, but I am commenting from to say, academically perspective, not religious and I don't want to be understood as anti-Shia Islam provocateur...
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Nowadays our softwar influence reached the world (through our missiles hitting tel-aviv). We are starting to have influence in Sudan, maybe other places in Africa as well.

What we need is just to allow more nationalistic figures in the system. Being nationalist, caring about national interests, working on basis of merit. This is what we miss.

The system should trust nationalists who wanted to enter, but were kept behind the doors by constructs such as Islamist grandfathers in the guardian council and/or corrupt thiefs and oligarchs who don't want nationalists to expose their treason against the nation.
 
Farhan23 said:
This will never pass.. Giving B-2 Bombers could risk US dominance as the Israelis are heavily embedded with the Russians giving B-2 Bombers would be stragetic mistake as the Russians will reverse engineer it
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You obviously don’t have a clue on the stranglehold a foreign country has on the empire.
 
Who are these people? How is someone this stupid part of the negotiations?

"How can we trust the Americans?" Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Majid Takht Ravanchi asked NBC. "We want them to explain as to why they misled us, why they took such an egregious action against our people...We are for diplomacy," but the Trump administration must “convince us that they are not going to use military force while we are negotiating.”
 
Israel was at the mercy of the Iranians , that is why Trump begged for ceasefire. war on Iran is on pause ( jews need more time to rearm) and ultimate goal is to destroy Iran:

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