Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Ms Sato should understand war was imposed on Iran
Iran is trying to local people who committed grave act of Espionage

When someone targets your country's Important figures it is an act of war, it's not merely a simple thing as , having disagreement over dinner

 

[kastor ville]

This seems like a potential diplomatic off ramp

If its genuine then its better for Iran to pursue it because Irans leaders are too scared to have nukes and too scared to give up on nukes as well, they are literally behaving like they have their heads in the sand.

Obviously the US and Israel are hard to trust but if Iran massages Trumpy's ego it may help cool things down and he will see it as a victory.

Truth....that's why we're in the position we are in......after JCPOA was abrogated, they slowly ramped up enrichment during Biden's tenure, but to what end? What was the end game here? In reality, Iranian planners should have known there is good possibility Trump would be back in power after the embarrassing debate performance of Biden. They should've known Trump is a Zio stooge...they own him. If that was understood, they could've been on alert this whole time...when the focus was back on Iran. Even right now...we're in the line of fire. They should be readying the country for a war 2.0. I don't really know what is the calculus now...but I would be creating instability in Iraq, in Syria, and in Jordan. As I said before, Iran needs to play dirty....we need to create enough brush fires so the West will get distracted....If Iraq, Syria and Jordan, maybe even Bahrain and the Strait...come into play, all of these Zio/MAGA mofos will pause and reassess if taking on Iran is really worth the effort.

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[kastor ville]

One more thing.......how many times have people discussed an eventual war with Israel in this forum (and it's predecessor) in the past 10 yrs? A million times~~! But, we got surprised anyway......how many times have we chatted about bunker busters and Fordow? A million times...yet, they didn't revise or reinforce the structure.
How many times have we conversed about how the wars will play out......the West/Israel's playbook has not changed in 30 yrs. Attack command and control, attack comms, own the sky......it's been the same shit forever.....yet, we obviously didn't take heed and plan well enough.
How many times has Israel attacked our people inside the country? Too many times.....why have they not put together a task force with only ONE mission, to go after Mossad operatives inside? The border should've been the first priority....we have a porous border. We needed to build electronic surveillance of the border....put up fences and walls, cameras, and 24 hours a day drones. The border should be heavily guarded with no go zones, and shoot to kill areas.
Lastly, If we know the playbook of our enemy why haven't we built up an air force? It's only been 10-15 years, how much corruption does it take to understand all of the indigenous fighter program is just that....corruption? We need an air force....get to this last part ASAP....corrupt bastards inside our government are getting our people and soldiers killed.

 

[Watandar]

One more thing.......how many times have people discussed an eventual war with Israel in this forum (and it's predecessor) in the past 10 yrs? A million times~~! But, we got surprised anyway......how many times have we chatted about bunker busters and Fordow? A million times...yet, they didn't revise or reinforce the structure.
How many times have we conversed about how the wars will play out......the West/Israel's playbook has not changed in 30 yrs. Attack command and control, attack comms, own the sky......it's been the same shit forever.....yet, we obviously didn't take heed and plan well enough.
How many times has Israel attacked our people inside the country? Too many times.....why have they not put together a task force with only ONE mission, to go after Mossad operatives inside? The border should've been the first priority....we have a porous border. We needed to build electronic surveillance of the border....put up fences and walls, cameras, and 24 hours a day drones. The border should be heavily guarded with no go zones, and shoot to kill areas.
Lastly, If we know the playbook of our enemy why haven't we built up an air force? It's only been 10-15 years, how much corruption does it take to understand all of the indigenous fighter program is just that....corruption? We need an air force....get to this last part ASAP....corrupt bastards inside our government are getting our people and soldiers killed.

Iranian high command should begin reading this forum. They would have fared better in the recent war with Israel.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Iranian high command should begin reading this forum. They would have fared better in the recent war with Israel.

Reformists are in power

 

[vizier]

One more thing.......how many times have people discussed an eventual war with Israel in this forum (and it's predecessor) in the past 10 yrs? A million times~~! But, we got surprised anyway......how many times have we chatted about bunker busters and Fordow? A million times...yet, they didn't revise or reinforce the structure.
How many times have we conversed about how the wars will play out......the West/Israel's playbook has not changed in 30 yrs. Attack command and control, attack comms, own the sky......it's been the same shit forever.....yet, we obviously didn't take heed and plan well enough.
How many times has Israel attacked our people inside the country? Too many times.....why have they not put together a task force with only ONE mission, to go after Mossad operatives inside? The border should've been the first priority....we have a porous border. We needed to build electronic surveillance of the border....put up fences and walls, cameras, and 24 hours a day drones. The border should be heavily guarded with no go zones, and shoot to kill areas.
Lastly, If we know the playbook of our enemy why haven't we built up an air force? It's only been 10-15 years, how much corruption does it take to understand all of the indigenous fighter program is just that....corruption? We need an air force....get to this last part ASAP....corrupt bastards inside our government are getting our people and soldiers killed.

I hope after all those stupid mistakes there will be change of thinking and taking precautions beforhand. Fortunately all is not lost yet but a high price is paid. Same thing happened in Labennon too. High value figures were hit in apartments after israeli site was bombed and attack was imminent. I think there is some philosophical issue as well in this kind of thinking that infected the region for a long time. Being a good guy and waiting things from outside to happen because of that is also responsible in my opinion. Everything is from Allah does not mean you sit and wait problems to be solved by themselves from an outside entity. That kind of thinking is also responsibile making people more reactive-emotional, less thinking, less acting and less owning responsibility of your own mistakes. Solutions will come from inside through you to solve the problems actively the more you think and act and belief sets your direction either from Truth or from false causes kind of changing the radio channel. Problems are solved through your action if you wait problems wont be sovled by themselves or by anyone else outside.

 

[kastor ville]

I hope after all those stupid mistakes there will be change of thinking and taking precautions beforhand. Fortunately all is not lost yet but a high price is paid. Same thing happened in Labennon too. High value figures were hit in apartments after israeli site was bombed and attack was imminent. I think there is some philosophical issue as well in this kind of thinking that infected the region for a long time. Being a good guy and waiting things from outside to happen because of that is also responsible in my opinion. Everything is from Allah does not mean you sit and wait problems to be solved by themselves from an outside entity. That kind of thinking is also responsibile making people more reactive-emotional, less thinking, less acting and less owning responsibility of your own mistakes. Solutions will come from inside through you to solve the problems actively the more you think and act and belief sets your direction either from Truth or from false causes kind of changing the radio channel. Problems are solved through your action if you wait problems wont be sovled by themselves or by anyone else outside.

It's because we 70 to 80 yrs old running things.....this culture values old people too much, they discount young blood. These senior citizens don't know how the world works....they're gold fishes trying to swim with sharks.

 

[vizier]

It's because we 70 to 80 yrs old running things.....this culture values old people too much, they discount young blood. These senior citizens don't know how the world works....they're gold fishes trying to swim with sharks.

Yes either they need to update themselves and their perspectives which is difficult but possible for them or they need to open way for more pro-active people to take more charge.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Reformists are in power

Majority of SNSC are conservative

 

[mangekyo]

They want to continue cooperating with IAEA

Tehran Reaffirms Conditional Cooperation With IAEA Following Recent Aggression Against Iran - Iran Front Page

In an exclusive interview with NBC, Iran’s Deputy Foreign Minister for Political Affairs, Majid Takhte-Ravanchi, underscored that Tehran has not shut the door on cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), despite the recent military aggression against Iran by the US and the...

ifpnews.com

 

[Hack-Hook]

They want to continue cooperating with IAEA

Tehran Reaffirms Conditional Cooperation With IAEA Following Recent Aggression Against Iran - Iran Front Page

In an exclusive interview with NBC, Iran’s Deputy Foreign Minister for Political Affairs, Majid Takhte-Ravanchi, underscored that Tehran has not shut the door on cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), despite the recent military aggression against Iran by the US and the...

ifpnews.com

He stated the facts about parliament law

 

[mangekyo]

He stated the facts about parliament law

«However, he said the final direction of Iran’s future engagement with the agency will be determined by Iran’s Supreme National Security Council. “Our ambassador in Vienna remains in contact with the Director General of the IAEA”, he said, underlining that dialogue is ongoing.»

I read this as SNSC wants to continue cooperation

 

[mangekyo]

One more thing.......how many times have people discussed an eventual war with Israel in this forum (and it's predecessor) in the past 10 yrs? A million times~~! But, we got surprised anyway......how many times have we chatted about bunker busters and Fordow? A million times...yet, they didn't revise or reinforce the structure.
How many times have we conversed about how the wars will play out......the West/Israel's playbook has not changed in 30 yrs. Attack command and control, attack comms, own the sky......it's been the same shit forever.....yet, we obviously didn't take heed and plan well enough.
How many times has Israel attacked our people inside the country? Too many times.....why have they not put together a task force with only ONE mission, to go after Mossad operatives inside? The border should've been the first priority....we have a porous border. We needed to build electronic surveillance of the border....put up fences and walls, cameras, and 24 hours a day drones. The border should be heavily guarded with no go zones, and shoot to kill areas.
Lastly, If we know the playbook of our enemy why haven't we built up an air force? It's only been 10-15 years, how much corruption does it take to understand all of the indigenous fighter program is just that....corruption? We need an air force....get to this last part ASAP....corrupt bastards inside our government are getting our people and soldiers killed.

Because there is no shared vision in IRI. We need a strong leader to set and keep us on a clear direction.

 

[kastor ville]

Because there is no shared vision in IRI. We need a strong leader to set and keep us on a clear direction.

You mean a strong president.....we need presidents, not life long leaders....why even get rid of the shah if go and get another? Besides, it's the 21st century....isn't about time we act like a modern country?
Supreme leader......Velayat-e faqih, Assembly of Experts? Why not branches of government like the rest of the world? We need to run the country like a Big corporation....you have a division and a job to do, you can't do it...or you fail to do it, you're OUT! Bring in the next guy. Meritocracy, it worked for Napoleon, it still works in this century. These things are not new ideas....it's truism, all the other ways have been tested through trial and error.
Anyways, the point is....we got caught on the back foot, because we have leadership that doesn't know the enemy, doesn't know the world and geopolitics of the lands outside of the middle east. If they knew, all those guys would've been in safe houses.
Also, how many scientists have been killed in the past 20 yrs? By now a monkey would have learned to protect high value personnel by a special group of highly trained guards....with a refined planning and modus operandi, to move them around and make their schedule and movements unpredictable.
Here's one more tip....get rid of all Western phones and apps, at least on the government personnel phones and computers. Every piece of hardware and software should be vetted by a specialized branch of the intelligence dept.