Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

This will never pass.. Giving B-2 Bombers could risk US dominance as the Israelis are heavily embedded with the Russians giving B-2 Bombers would be stragetic mistake as the Russians will reverse engineer it
Is there a Pro russian/Anti US political party in Israel?
 
So target is not only Iran but Pakistan too and they are definitely going to attack khutta N plant.
This is the thing that infuriate me..

Just take a second to think.. India would have done this long time ago. This is something bullshxt.

The only way Pakistan can be denuclearized is in an nuclear armegeddon world war. The fact that some Pakistanis posting this shows negative sides of our country really.

2+2 is 4 you ain´t denuclearising a nuclear state without eating nukes and everyone else eating it then comes a nuclear winter.

Pakistan can only go in a WORLD WAR 3 scenario not before it... PERIOD! Pakistan has secured it´s tickets to WORLD WAR 3 it will be a player whether it wins or not will depend on our calculations and military tactics plus right alliances.

Besides nobody wants to fight us before a world war scenario but only where nobody has anything to lose plus we have solid stragetic depth in Afghanistan with mountains plus our nation is mountainous and very harsh with very harsh people in it.

Both the Soviets and Nato tried to get close to us by invading our stragetic depth but both lost there before even reaching us.
 
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The map seen in the meeting room of Katz, Israel's Minister of Defense, might depict the so-called "green route" — possibly the alternative land corridor through Saudi Arabia that is intended to connect the Persian Gulf to the Red Sea. This is the same energy transit artery envisioned as a substitute for the Strait of Hormuz, in the hypothetical scenario that Iran closes the strait.

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Al saud regime once again help their jew cousins 🏴‍☠️🇸🇦🇺🇲🇮🇱
 
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The map seen in the meeting room of Katz, Israel's Minister of Defense, might depict the so-called "green route" — possibly the alternative land corridor through Saudi Arabia that is intended to connect the Persian Gulf to the Red Sea. This is the same energy transit artery envisioned as a substitute for the Strait of Hormuz, in the hypothetical scenario that Iran closes the strait.

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Al saud regime once again help their jew cousins


The Greens are everywhere on roads.. I don´t think Katz gives a fuk about Saudi Oil or Saudi Arabia in that matter. What do you think he is a saint or something.

Saint Israel Katz who has first interest in Saudi Oil lmao..

If that dude could wish away every muslim on earth he would. He is an extremist
 
Ms Sato should understand war was imposed on Iran
Iran is trying to local people who committed grave act of Espionage

When someone targets your country's Important figures it is an act of war, it's not merely a simple thing as , having disagreement over dinner

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This seems like a potential diplomatic off ramp

If its genuine then its better for Iran to pursue it because Irans leaders are too scared to have nukes and too scared to give up on nukes as well, they are literally behaving like they have their heads in the sand.

Obviously the US and Israel are hard to trust but if Iran massages Trumpy's ego it may help cool things down and he will see it as a victory.
Truth....that's why we're in the position we are in......after JCPOA was abrogated, they slowly ramped up enrichment during Biden's tenure, but to what end? What was the end game here? In reality, Iranian planners should have known there is good possibility Trump would be back in power after the embarrassing debate performance of Biden. They should've known Trump is a Zio stooge...they own him. If that was understood, they could've been on alert this whole time...when the focus was back on Iran. Even right now...we're in the line of fire. They should be readying the country for a war 2.0. I don't really know what is the calculus now...but I would be creating instability in Iraq, in Syria, and in Jordan. As I said before, Iran needs to play dirty....we need to create enough brush fires so the West will get distracted....If Iraq, Syria and Jordan, maybe even Bahrain and the Strait...come into play, all of these Zio/MAGA mofos will pause and reassess if taking on Iran is really worth the effort.
 
One more thing.......how many times have people discussed an eventual war with Israel in this forum (and it's predecessor) in the past 10 yrs? A million times~~! But, we got surprised anyway......how many times have we chatted about bunker busters and Fordow? A million times...yet, they didn't revise or reinforce the structure.
How many times have we conversed about how the wars will play out......the West/Israel's playbook has not changed in 30 yrs. Attack command and control, attack comms, own the sky......it's been the same shit forever.....yet, we obviously didn't take heed and plan well enough.
How many times has Israel attacked our people inside the country? Too many times.....why have they not put together a task force with only ONE mission, to go after Mossad operatives inside? The border should've been the first priority....we have a porous border. We needed to build electronic surveillance of the border....put up fences and walls, cameras, and 24 hours a day drones. The border should be heavily guarded with no go zones, and shoot to kill areas.
Lastly, If we know the playbook of our enemy why haven't we built up an air force? It's only been 10-15 years, how much corruption does it take to understand all of the indigenous fighter program is just that....corruption? We need an air force....get to this last part ASAP....corrupt bastards inside our government are getting our people and soldiers killed.
 
One more thing.......how many times have people discussed an eventual war with Israel in this forum (and it's predecessor) in the past 10 yrs? A million times~~! But, we got surprised anyway......how many times have we chatted about bunker busters and Fordow? A million times...yet, they didn't revise or reinforce the structure.
How many times have we conversed about how the wars will play out......the West/Israel's playbook has not changed in 30 yrs. Attack command and control, attack comms, own the sky......it's been the same shit forever.....yet, we obviously didn't take heed and plan well enough.
How many times has Israel attacked our people inside the country? Too many times.....why have they not put together a task force with only ONE mission, to go after Mossad operatives inside? The border should've been the first priority....we have a porous border. We needed to build electronic surveillance of the border....put up fences and walls, cameras, and 24 hours a day drones. The border should be heavily guarded with no go zones, and shoot to kill areas.
Lastly, If we know the playbook of our enemy why haven't we built up an air force? It's only been 10-15 years, how much corruption does it take to understand all of the indigenous fighter program is just that....corruption? We need an air force....get to this last part ASAP....corrupt bastards inside our government are getting our people and soldiers killed.
Iranian high command should begin reading this forum. They would have fared better in the recent war with Israel.
 
One more thing.......how many times have people discussed an eventual war with Israel in this forum (and it's predecessor) in the past 10 yrs? A million times~~! But, we got surprised anyway......how many times have we chatted about bunker busters and Fordow? A million times...yet, they didn't revise or reinforce the structure.
How many times have we conversed about how the wars will play out......the West/Israel's playbook has not changed in 30 yrs. Attack command and control, attack comms, own the sky......it's been the same shit forever.....yet, we obviously didn't take heed and plan well enough.
How many times has Israel attacked our people inside the country? Too many times.....why have they not put together a task force with only ONE mission, to go after Mossad operatives inside? The border should've been the first priority....we have a porous border. We needed to build electronic surveillance of the border....put up fences and walls, cameras, and 24 hours a day drones. The border should be heavily guarded with no go zones, and shoot to kill areas.
Lastly, If we know the playbook of our enemy why haven't we built up an air force? It's only been 10-15 years, how much corruption does it take to understand all of the indigenous fighter program is just that....corruption? We need an air force....get to this last part ASAP....corrupt bastards inside our government are getting our people and soldiers killed.
I hope after all those stupid mistakes there will be change of thinking and taking precautions beforhand. Fortunately all is not lost yet but a high price is paid. Same thing happened in Labennon too. High value figures were hit in apartments after israeli site was bombed and attack was imminent. I think there is some philosophical issue as well in this kind of thinking that infected the region for a long time. Being a good guy and waiting things from outside to happen because of that is also responsible in my opinion. Everything is from Allah does not mean you sit and wait problems to be solved by themselves from an outside entity. That kind of thinking is also responsibile making people more reactive-emotional, less thinking, less acting and less owning responsibility of your own mistakes. Solutions will come from inside through you to solve the problems actively the more you think and act and belief sets your direction either from Truth or from false causes kind of changing the radio channel. Problems are solved through your action if you wait problems wont be sovled by themselves or by anyone else outside.
 
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I hope after all those stupid mistakes there will be change of thinking and taking precautions beforhand. Fortunately all is not lost yet but a high price is paid. Same thing happened in Labennon too. High value figures were hit in apartments after israeli site was bombed and attack was imminent. I think there is some philosophical issue as well in this kind of thinking that infected the region for a long time. Being a good guy and waiting things from outside to happen because of that is also responsible in my opinion. Everything is from Allah does not mean you sit and wait problems to be solved by themselves from an outside entity. That kind of thinking is also responsibile making people more reactive-emotional, less thinking, less acting and less owning responsibility of your own mistakes. Solutions will come from inside through you to solve the problems actively the more you think and act and belief sets your direction either from Truth or from false causes kind of changing the radio channel. Problems are solved through your action if you wait problems wont be sovled by themselves or by anyone else outside.
It's because we 70 to 80 yrs old running things.....this culture values old people too much, they discount young blood. These senior citizens don't know how the world works....they're gold fishes trying to swim with sharks.
 
It's because we 70 to 80 yrs old running things.....this culture values old people too much, they discount young blood. These senior citizens don't know how the world works....they're gold fishes trying to swim with sharks.
Yes either they need to update themselves and their perspectives which is difficult but possible for them or they need to open way for more pro-active people to take more charge.
 

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