mythbuster
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During that era lure of f 16 was very strong....
PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions
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MastanKhan
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Hi,
F16 was already lost by then---. Paf was just wishing it could happen---.
They just kept lying to themselves---. And just because an army man made the deal for an aircraft---they became spiteful and rejected it---would not even consider it till the wakeup call came---.
Pakistan Space Agency
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Just an update to my previous findings after @Quwa helped with some of the findings as well as gathering some information from X and on PDF.
My latest thinking is that the initial promotional video misquoted the Air Chief and as a result it was pulled and a new promotional video was released couple of weeks later.
Anyone having the link/access to the original promotional video and sharing it here would be most appreciated.
The original press release that was published on the ISPR's website dated 2 January 2024 is still there.
Prime Minister's tweet which was later removed.
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Some screenshots that were captured from the original promotion video released on 2 January 2024.
My latest thinking is that the initial promotional video misquoted the Air Chief and as a result it was pulled and a new promotional video was released couple of weeks later.
Anyone having the link/access to the original promotional video and sharing it here would be most appreciated.
The original press release that was published on the ISPR's website dated 2 January 2024 is still there.
Date | Official | Comment | Event | Notes |
| 02/01/2024 | PAF Air Chief Marshal Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu | No mention of the J-31 in the press release. ISPR Press Release No PR-2/2024-ISPR | Induction and Organisational Ceremony at PAF Airbase. | No tweet on the DGPR (Air Force) account or any related videos of this on the Pakistan Air Force YouTube channel. |
| 2 January 2024 | Unofficial: Bol News channel | News tickers are played on the channel regarding the ceremony. J-10Cs are mentioned in but no such mention of J-31. | Bol News Headlines 9 PM | 9:00 PM News Bulletin |
| 02/01/2024 | Pakistan Air Force(?) | Pakistan Air Force(?) releases a promotional video which asserts that the Air Chief made the following announcement: "The foundation for acquiring the J-31 stealth fighter aircraft has already been laid, which is all set to become part of the fleet in the near future." | This video was removed between 3 January 2024 and 16 January 2024. A 10 second clip of the original video is attached to the RTE Urdu tweet from 2 January 2024. Other screenshots from the video are attached at the bottom. | There's no evidence that the Air Chief said anything about J-31 during his speech. There's no recording of his speech available. The promotional video is not available on the DGPR (Air Force)'s X account nor on the Pakistan Air Force YouTube channel. Initial tweets on X from the major Pakistani military enthusiast accounts differ on the exact wording of Air Chief's quote. This just implies that everyone rushed to tweet the quote before doing any fact checking. |
| 02/01/2024 | Unofficial: Bol News channel | During the 11:00 pm news bulletin, some visuals of the ceremony are shown and it mentions that Air Chief has announced the acquisition of J-31s. | BOL News Headlines at 11 PM | 11:00 PM News Bulletin |
| 16 January 2024 | DGPR (Air Force) | DGPR (Air Force) tweets: PAF CHECKMATES PAKISTAN'S ENEMIES ... “A key milestone in this strategic transformation has been the acquisition of Fifth Generation Stealth fighter jets, the foundation of whose induction into the PAF has already been laid which will ensure an impregnable defence of the country. ...” Attached to the tweet is a promotional video that has a caption attributing to the Air Chief: Pakistan Air Force - Journey to modernisation “A key milestone in this strategic transformation has been the acquisition of fifth generation stealth fighter jets, the foundations of whose induction into the PAF has already been laid.” | Tweet on X PAF Promotional Video | Both the tweet and the promotional video do not mention J-31. |
| 06 June 2025 | PM Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif | "Under the presidency of Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif {@CMShehbaz}, Pakistan has achieved several great diplomatic achievements, including the offer of 40 fifth-generation J-35 stealth aircraft, KJ-500 AWACS, HQ-19 defense systems from China." | Tweet on X | This tweet was later removed a few days later. |
| 26/06/2025 | Defence Minister Khawaja Muhammad Asif | “I think it is only in the media. It is good for sale, Chinese defence sales, you know,” said Khawaja Asif in response to a question about the reported delivery of the J-35A jets in 2026. | Interview with Arab News | Some PR stunt going on according to the Defence Minister. |
Prime Minister's tweet which was later removed.
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Some screenshots that were captured from the original promotion video released on 2 January 2024.
Pakistan Space Agency
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Could be but the guy talking is Najam Sethi. Very close to the Government/Military and usually very good with his claims and predictions.
PakShaheen_79
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AVM Shahid Latif repeated this claim more than once during his interviews that J-10A were offered but PAF rejected it at that time and insisted on continuing Thunder's development.
Based on your latest claims, it is finally confirmed that Pakistan gets J-35A even a special variant with FA-18-style EJ-seats and canopy since you took a J-19C image for a J-35, it is crystal clear, who from us is juts plain stupid!
Otherwise, your you are again spreading that nonsense, that China only initiated the J-10B due to Pakistans input … so much on who is stupid!
PakShaheen_79
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Reasons unknown, but PAF did took back a more than 5~7 mins video about PAF modernization and a shorter version was uploaded in its place. May be too much details were given or something were deemed unnecessary making video lengthy. But as @Quwa mentioned, it was indeed there. This was first video mentioning Multi Domain HQ and other details.
PakShaheen_79
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PAF will wait for WS-19's competition, certification and integration on platform, IMHO.
Michael
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AECC does not allow WS-19 engine to be exported. the WS-21 engine is the engine they developed specifically for the foreign trade version of the FC-31/J-35.
Scorpio
Registered Member
PAF Babas childhood crush for F16 still remains
Pakistan Space Agency
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Okay guys, this is going to be my last post regarding the research on who actually said what and when. I have found the original video from a place that may have been overlooked by the PAF.
@Deino @Quwa and anyone else who wants to see the original video from 2 January 2024, I have reuploaded this on YouTube for. It has a lot more details then subsequent promotional video released on 16 January 2024.
My opinion is still the same though, that the initial promotional video misquoted the Air Chief and as a result it was pulled and a new promotional video was released couple of weeks later.
The J-31 claim became a breaking news as a direct result of the promotional video and not what actually took place on the day of the event. I am happy to be corrected otherwise.
Prime Minister's tweet which was later removed.
@Quwa , thank you.
@Deino @Quwa and anyone else who wants to see the original video from 2 January 2024, I have reuploaded this on YouTube for. It has a lot more details then subsequent promotional video released on 16 January 2024.
My opinion is still the same though, that the initial promotional video misquoted the Air Chief and as a result it was pulled and a new promotional video was released couple of weeks later.
The J-31 claim became a breaking news as a direct result of the promotional video and not what actually took place on the day of the event. I am happy to be corrected otherwise.
Date | Official | Comment | Event | Notes |
| 02/01/2024 | PAF Air Chief Marshal Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu | No mention of the J-31 in the press release. ISPR Press Release No PR-2/2024-ISPR Official footage with no sound of the speeches. | Induction and Operationalisation Ceremony at PAF Airbase. | ISPR's original press release is still available. |
| 02/01/2024 | Pakistan Air Force | Pakistan Air Force releases a promotional video which asserts that the Air Chief made the following announcement: "The foundation for acquiring the J-31 stealth fighter aircraft has already been laid, which is all set to become part of the fleet in the near future." Original Promotional Video | The video was removed between 3 January 2024 and 16 January 2024. | There's no evidence that the Air Chief said anything about J-31 during his speech. The promotional video is not available on the DGPR (Air Force)'s X account or their YouTube channel. |
| 02/01/2024 | Unofficial: BOL News channel | News report claims Air Chief has announced the acquisition of J-31s. | BOL News Report | The report seems to be based on the promotional video rather than actual reporting from the event. |
| 16 January 2024 | DGPR (Air Force) | DGPR (Air Force) tweets: PAF CHECKMATES PAKISTAN'S ENEMIES ... “A key milestone in this strategic transformation has been the acquisition of Fifth Generation Stealth fighter jets, the foundation of whose induction into the PAF has already been laid which will ensure an impregnable defence of the country. ...” Attached to the tweet is a promotional video that has a caption attributing to the Air Chief: Pakistan Air Force - Journey to modernisation “A key milestone in this strategic transformation has been the acquisition of fifth generation stealth fighter jets, the foundations of whose induction into the PAF has already been laid.” | Tweet on X PAF Promotional Video | Both the tweet and the promotional video do not mention J-31. |
| 06 June 2025 | PM Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif | "Under the presidency of Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif {@CMShehbaz}, Pakistan has achieved several great diplomatic achievements, including the offer of 40 fifth-generation J-35 stealth aircraft, KJ-500 AWACS, HQ-19 defense systems from China." | Tweet on X | This tweet was later removed a few days later. |
| 26/06/2025 | Defence Minister Khawaja Muhammad Asif | “I think it is only in the media. It is good for sale, Chinese defence sales, you know,” said Khawaja Asif in response to a question about the reported delivery of the J-35A jets in 2026. | Interview with Arab News | Some PR stunt going on according to the Defence Minister. |
Prime Minister's tweet which was later removed.
@Quwa , thank you.
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PakShaheen_79
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Source of this info.
Tariq Habib Afridi
Registered Member
What the hell... it doesn’t make sense if it’s true? Again, they surrendered in front of US? Kahan J-35s aur kahan Vipers? But it seems like Pakistan has made every official claim about the J-35 disappear, as if they’ve given in to U.S. pressure and abandoned the J-35.
Very Very Bad decision
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Michael
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I am the only source of this information.
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