Tariq Habib Afridi
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@Michael see here you said your self that WS-21 engine is for foreign partner? and above you said that this inducted PLAAF J35 has WS-21 engine not WS-19?
PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions
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Salza
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Personally I believe we will upgrade or like to upgrade our block 52s to V standard only. Remaining F16s will remain as it is till they get retired in few years time. We might atleast buy one more squad of J10Cs/ or built JF17 block 3 and that's it. After that it will be J35s only.
Now if, a big if, India from no where gives an order of 5th generation plane to Russia or US, let's say within next 7-8 months, than we will definitely fast track J35 purchase. Might than give up the idea of having additional J10C / block 3 squad which I earlier mentioned and save the money for J35s. This fast track deal with China than will be at Govt to Govt level and even than we won't be getting J35s before 2027-28.
Now if, a big if, India from no where gives an order of 5th generation plane to Russia or US, let's say within next 7-8 months, than we will definitely fast track J35 purchase. Might than give up the idea of having additional J10C / block 3 squad which I earlier mentioned and save the money for J35s. This fast track deal with China than will be at Govt to Govt level and even than we won't be getting J35s before 2027-28.
NGAD IS THE BEST
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No, block 52s are not near the block 70 capability, block 70 is way way more advanced than block 52 in terms of avionics/ radars/ ECM/EW/ECCM etc etc
StormBreaker
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Why have we stopped further procurement of Block 3s? Given the decades long hype of Block 3 and now we stop at 26 units?
Quwa
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IMO...I don't think it was a misquote, otherwise that same video would've had multiple misquotes. It'd be very odd for the very one specific detail about the J-31 would be misquoted.
Moreover, these PR videos are basically done at the direction of AHQ and the CAS. They would've been cleared by him. And that video was around for a while before it got scrubbed.
That said, I think the PAF inadvertently gave the impression that their next acquisition would be the J-31/J-35, which wasn't likely the case. Rather, the J-35 will come eventually, but until then, its priorities would likely center on more J-10CEs and JF-17s/PFXs.
Salza
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May be we want to save some money for 5th generation plane. We even bought J10s in limited numbers. Also quality matters than quantity and in the last 10 years induction of UAV warfare has evolved as must need for every decent airforce. So with force multipliers in the form of AWACS, specialized jamming planes and other hi tech net centric units around, we don't need more planes to do the job. See PAF 44 planes were enough to give bloody nose to IAF 72 jets.
NGAD IS THE BEST
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$$$ is the main problem to stop block-3 production bro
StormBreaker
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UAV/UCAVs have revolutionized the warfare arena completely. Look at how the Russia-Ukraine, Iran-Israel and Pak-India conflicts had a major role of UAVs.
Kamekazi stealth strike drones, UAV awacs, and swarms are the way to go.
PakShaheen_79
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Then we have the single source problem here. I guess you are aware of this dilemma in journalism and research
lightning f57
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I understand some advantages of getting F16V upgrade, but I wonder the disadvantage regarding cost and reliability(sanctions) make it better to aquire more J10cs
Michael
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I suggest you follow the main thread of J-35. There you will find the answers you want to know.Then we have the single source problem here. I guess you are aware of this dilemma in journalism and research
I don't know English, and all my speeches in PDF need translation software. So, repeating the same content is very troublesome for me.
Rational Philosopher
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It's still too premature to put all your eggs in this basket. I feel UAVs are going to play a bigger role going forward but manned warfare isn't going anywhere. Main key will be loyal wingman drones to fly with manned platforms, and some may have specialised payloads like electronic warfare or reconnaissance.
"Kamekazi stealth strike drones" to be honest just sounds like a loitering cruise missile optimised for stealth.
Like these.
PakShaheen_79
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It is OK. I read somewhere that WS-19 is intended engine for J-35 while WS-21 is interim engine similar as we have WS-10C on J-20 while WS-15 Emei is going through testing. But if J-35As are not coming to PAF then it's irrelevant if it's WS-21 or WS-19.
PakistaniDefender
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What kind of reports??
delta2
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Please do not buy anymore F16s! As a matter of fact, sell the ones Pakistan currently has.
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Even Canada now believes that the USA is no longer a reliable, trustworthy ally. Carney is a disappointment but I didn't expect him to fold like this so easy. At least Trudeau was willing to step into a boxing ring and stand up for himself when he got called out.
Trump is not a single variable, out lier phenomenon. He represents a thought pattern that has now taken a permanent hold in the American politics.
The USA may promise or say one thing, but America is unpredictable more than ever before.
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