India Lucky Not To Lose More Than Four Rafales

[Dalit]

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Indians would argue that they have a 4 trillion dollar economy and their economy can sustain such bad decisions...

The 4 trillion dollar economy will acquire fighters that support GaN-based AESA radars, GaN-based EW systems, and compatibility with hypersonic weapons... The 4 trillion economy will rectify the Rafale mistake.

 

[Dalit]

Thank you. I didn't want to say that; glad you did. Restraint in the face of a mad and rabid enemy is weakness. If you hesitate against such an enemy or overindulge in the consequences or escalation, you give your mad and dangerous enemy another chance to attack you with better preparation.
India doesn't consider Pakistan a country; they think it is part of them, and they want it back. You can't deal with such an enemy by showing restraint. It would become your weakness. They know Pakistan wouldn't retaliate with full force. They are not wrong; until 11th May, Pakistani ministers were saying in the media that shooting down the jets is enough; they are not going to retaliate for the killings of innocent Pakistanis.
Their hands were forced by India, which was emboldened by the hesitation shown by Pakistan on 6/7 May.
In that regard, we have to look at the statement made by their CDS. He said India was caught due to their operational shortcomings; they went underground for 2 days, changed the tactics, and came back to hit Pakistani bases. Basically, they realized if they used their jets, the result would again be the same until they understood the full Pakistani spectrum. Therefore, they decided to use missiles and drones on 11 May.

But they didn't deter from attacking Pakistan again on 11 May. They will attack again very shortly after further preparations.

This is an admission by India that their air force is not up to the mark. The need to change tactics and rely on missiles instead of air power reveals a lot of weaknesses.

 

[MastanKhan]

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Hi,

There was nothing wrong with that product.

The problem is that the indians did not believe in what we had and what we were capable of---.

They did not believe that we had the PL15's---because deino did not believe that---.

They believed that our aesa radar was extremely inferior in quality & our other EW measures were sub par---because deino said so---.

Similarly---our aircraft---the J10C's and the JF17's were no match as they were cheap chinese built aircraft---& who said that---deino off course---.

I hope that the indians find out where deino is and pay him a visit---face him and tell him---you made us look for the proof---you made us look for the contracts of what paf had---you made a fool out of us---. We kept searching for the contracts while pakistanis were preparing their equipment to destroy us---.

 

[Cash gk]

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Akshay Kumar filmo wala.. the one who made an film against paf

 

[Dalit]

Hi,

There was nothing wrong with that product.

The problem is that the indians did not believe in what we had and what we were capable of---.

They did not believe that we had the PL15's---because deino did not believe that---.

They believed that our aesa radar was extremely inferior in quality & our other EW measures were sub par---because deino said so---.

Similarly---our aircraft---the J10C's and the JF17's were no match as they were cheap chinese built aircraft---& who said that---deino off course---.

I hope that the indians find out where deino is and pay him a visit---face him and tell him---you made us look for the proof---you made us look for the contracts of what paf had---you made a fool out of us---. We kept searching for the contracts while pakistanis were preparing their equipment to destroy us---.

in other words, the Indians underestimated Pakistan very badly and got a nasty surprise.

 

[PakistanLVR]

India doesn't consider Pakistan a country; they think it is part of them, and they want it back. You can't deal with such an enemy by showing restraint. It would become your weakness.

This is 200% spot on. The obsession with Pakistan, its people, its women, everything has to do with what you wrote above. They never moved on from the Partition and think its only a limited time because Pakistan will merge back into India. They haven't stopped towards this goal.

Indians have consistently and effectively done the following:

1. Their media non-stop obsession with Pakistan: They are building a narrative that Pakistan is some form of a breakaway region and hence can't stop talking about it in aggressive terms.
2. Refusal to discuss any bilateral issues while claiming of some mythical cross-border terrorism perpetuated by Pakistan and ISI: The Indians very cleverly tried to bring Pakistan under its influence via some form of Indian Monroe Destiny. By blocking third-party from bringing up Pakistan and Kashmir, The Indians were implicitly implying that its an internal matter of India; thereby explicitly claiming Pakistan as part of their union.
3. Map of a united South Asia in their parliament: One of the most obvious escalations of the Indians putting up a map of a united South Asia. They claimed its from some ancient empire but the visual impacts caused the Nepalis to protest it. I'm curious as to why Pakistan didn't protest it. It encroaches on Pakistan, its history, lands, and people?

Why do you think the Indians can't stop obsessing with Pakistanis and their social media. I don't deny there few sensible Indians that genuinely want to learn more and not troll or make vile comments, but the vast majority are the clear enemy and the sooner the Pakistanis rulers openly label India as truly as the enemy of the Pakistani people, the quicker Pakistan can really unify against one enemy.

Right now much of Pakistan is confused given the ruling elites continuous requesting talks, trade, or art relations (speaking of which, someone get that Bi^ch Hania Amir and bring her back to Pakistan and as punishment shave her head and eyebrows as the French did to their women that relationships with German soldiers occupying France).

Pakistanis are confused because on one hands we see them attacking Pakistan mercilessness and on the other hand, Pakistan elites are dying to start a trade and cricket relations. This schizophrenic policy is creating more problems for Pakistan.

Some Pakistanis are contend by just getting by and not aggressive enough. I just don't under where this passively comes from. I grew up in the West, and so have many folks on this forum, and I can easily tell by people thoughts and comments on who grew up where. No offense to the folks in Pakistan, but I've utterly disappointed at the lack of strategic vision. I see the men of the educated elites behave very beta-like with no aggressiveness in them. I don't want an Indian style of right-wing nationalism, but Jesus Pakistanis can even manage basic pride in their nation. I understand things are not good, but someone has to ignite nationalism which can propel a nation to great length.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Indians would argue that they have a 4 trillion dollar economy and their economy can sustain such bad decisions...

The 4 trillion dollar economy will acquire fighters that support GaN-based AESA radars, GaN-based EW systems, and compatibility with hypersonic weapons... The 4 trillion economy will rectify the Rafale mistake.

But money can't buy you competence and courage. And, most importantly HIS RIZA, RAHMET and BEREKET. And, money can't change the Murad-i Ilahi. FORTUNE favors the brave...

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Hi,
There was nothing wrong with that product.
The problem is that the indians did not believe in what we had and what we were capable of---.

As per the KITAP, they believe in everything but the TRUTH. And, they rely on their intuition and perception. And, they are surrounded by mental barriers and blocks that they can't break through.....

 

[MastanKhan]

in other words, the Indians underestimated Pakistan very badly and got a nasty surprise.

Hi,

I mean to say---how stupid does one has to be to not understand what is being stated---.

The mindset of the indians was they they could take out the chinese primo the J20 without belching---.

And here they got smashed to oblivion by the lowest tier chinese aircraft---and if we go by Paf's original statements---by the " not so special mig21 copy " the Jf17 as well---.

So these were shattered dreams and hopes that got smashed to a pulp within a 30 to 45 minute period---.

 

[RandomThoughts7]

Hi,

Just imagine---a wave of 72 to 80 aircraft coming in with the latest strike and combat weapons---.

Of these 80---35 to 40 were readied for strike---.

If the strike had been successful---pakistan would have suffered heavily---. Then the 2nd strike would have followed thru and then a 3rd strike and possibly israeli aircraft involved as well.

We missed destruction by a whisker---.

Fortunately---our sword struck their neck first---the consequences of that impact---they were not expecting---.

But if the thing had gone their way---there would be NO PAKISTAN standing today as we knew of it on may 5th 2025---.

Hi, yes, India did not give up after their planes were shot down. If you recall they launched Harpy and Harop drones for a couple of days. They must have been surprised that Pakistan shot most of those down. Pakistan even then kept saying we will retaliate at a time of our choosing.

Pakistan only finally replied when they attacked their airbases with cruise missiles. India is already preparing for future clashes.

India buys drones, air defense weapons following aerial Pakistan fight

Prime Minister Narendra Modi said: “Operation Sindoor is now the nation’s established policy in the fight against terrorism."

www.defensenews.com

 

[PK781]

This is 200% spot on. The obsession with Pakistan, its people, its women, everything has to do with what you wrote above. They never moved on from the Partition and think its only a limited time because Pakistan will merge back into India. They haven't stopped towards this goal.

Indians have consistently and effectively done the following:

1. Their media non-stop obsession with Pakistan: They are building a narrative that Pakistan is some form of a breakaway region and hence can't stop talking about it in aggressive terms.
2. Refusal to discuss any bilateral issues while claiming of some mythical cross-border terrorism perpetuated by Pakistan and ISI: The Indians very cleverly tried to bring Pakistan under its influence via some form of Indian Monroe Destiny. By blocking third-party from bringing up Pakistan and Kashmir, The Indians were implicitly implying that its an internal matter of India; thereby explicitly claiming Pakistan as part of their union.
3. Map of a united South Asia in their parliament: One of the most obvious escalations of the Indians putting up a map of a united South Asia. They claimed its from some ancient empire but the visual impacts caused the Nepalis to protest it. I'm curious as to why Pakistan didn't protest it. It encroaches on Pakistan, its history, lands, and people?

Why do you think the Indians can't stop obsessing with Pakistanis and their social media. I don't deny there few sensible Indians that genuinely want to learn more and not troll or make vile comments, but the vast majority are the clear enemy and the sooner the Pakistanis rulers openly label India as truly as the enemy of the Pakistani people, the quicker Pakistan can really unify against one enemy.

Right now much of Pakistan is confused given the ruling elites continuous requesting talks, trade, or art relations (speaking of which, someone get that Bi^ch Hania Amir and bring her back to Pakistan and as punishment shave her head and eyebrows as the French did to their women that relationships with German soldiers occupying France).

Pakistanis are confused because on one hands we see them attacking Pakistan mercilessness and on the other hand, Pakistan elites are dying to start a trade and cricket relations. This schizophrenic policy is creating more problems for Pakistan.

Some Pakistanis are contend by just getting by and not aggressive enough. I just don't under where this passively comes from. I grew up in the West, and so have many folks on this forum, and I can easily tell by people thoughts and comments on who grew up where. No offense to the folks in Pakistan, but I've utterly disappointed at the lack of strategic vision. I see the men of the educated elites behave very beta-like with no aggressiveness in them. I don't want an Indian style of right-wing nationalism, but Jesus Pakistanis can even manage basic pride in their nation. I understand things are not good, but someone has to ignite nationalism which can propel a nation to great length.

What you said is corrrect and there is a reason for it. Alot of these so-called Pakistanis are cowardly, and have a cuck behaviour due to watching bollywood, the massive bharatoady propaganda (indian media) and the almost-traitor-like behaviour and non-aggressive cowardly writers and editors of the Pakistani media. Stupid retards get rewarded big sums of money and then they want money and goodies and forget the nationalism or national policy. Our cowardly thieves-turned-politicians and bureacurats are same.......they never issue strong or proper statements or narratives.....they keep trying to calm things down and not fan the flames....they want the so-called "peace".
There's plenty of people in, and outside pakistan that are simply afraid of indian behaviour and suffering from inferiority comples due to the "indian superpower myth" due to the economy factors. They think Pak is finished.......

Its time our people wake up and face the reality. Work hard, and dont get impressed by the shitty bharatoads. I do the same in my life, at my workplace and i don't tolerate that cowardly behaviour. **** them., They get the vibe quickly that not all pakistanis are fools or cowards or impressed or dying to be a part of them.

 

[Vox Non Dei]

Take it as it pleases you. PAF’s official claim is 6 shot down

PAF's claims keep on going up. wait for next year it will be 120. LOL!

 

[Vox Non Dei]

Hi,

Just imagine---a wave of 72 to 80 aircraft coming in with the latest strike and combat weapons---.

Of these 80---35 to 40 were readied for strike---.

If the strike had been successful---pakistan would have suffered heavily---. Then the 2nd strike would have followed thru and then a 3rd strike and possibly israeli aircraft involved as well.

We missed destruction by a whisker---.

Fortunately---our sword struck their neck first---the consequences of that impact---they were not expecting---.

But if the thing had gone their way---there would be NO PAKISTAN standing today as we knew of it on may 5th 2025---.

5th may 2025? LOL!


Actually, the strike package was pretty small, very narrow in targeting. Notice, no SEAD and DEAD was done.

If India wanted to do what you are alluding to, it would have opened salvo like Iran. First a wave of 100s of BMs and CMs destroying ADs and airbases followed by air attack.

 

[RandomThoughts7]

5th may 2025? LOL!


Actually, the strike package was pretty small, very narrow in targeting. Notice, no SEAD and DEAD was done.

If India wanted to do what you are alluding to, it would have opened salvo like Iran. First a wave of 100s of BMs and CMs destroying ADs and airbases followed by air attack.

Hi, Pakistan has access to satellite intelligence. They are not that naive, and would have detected the build up at Indian airbases and positioning of balistic missiles.

I am sure Pakistan would have deployed missiles to strike back at India. There is a reason a ceasefire fire was agreed to by both sides.

 

[Fatman17]

PAF's claims keep on going up. wait for next year it will be 120. LOL!

That sounds more like the Indian media you are used to. Actually.