India Lucky Not To Lose More Than Four Rafales

[Alex]

What a PHAG0T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ, this is exactly what I wrote in my post on this thread. I'm starting to believe the 6 shot down planes is an outright lie to provide the Pakistani people with some sort of fait accompli that all is well but really I'm starting to believe that number is inflated. They let the Indians come in and murder innocent Pakistanis sleeping in their homes and mosques and this son of a Hera Mandi Wh*re on the date it occurred is say all is well.
If gaslighting was a person.

These types of "Muslims" deserve to be bombed at will for they are the worst of the all the beings Allah SWT created. Even the May 10th "massive attack" was a big can of nothing. Some soldiers launching missiles during Hi-Tea and then claiming of a massive attack. Such unprofessional soldering I have ever seen.
I want to smash the Indians faces. This is why @MastanKhan is right. Because of Pakistani cowardice, you've basically embolden the subhumans Paj33ts and now they know they can use as many missiles and drones as possible and Pakistan won't do much while hiding behind "but but but IMF loans and International Community."

I watched an American Podcast that had a Chinese guest on (Chinese American) and he basically called out Pakistan's failures during this time - not taking the imitative to finally smash the Indians psyche of superiority.

The War Nerd was right to call them out 23 years and I see nothing has changed.

War Nerd: Fag vs. Fag: the India-Pakistan Phoney War - By Gary Brecher - The eXiled

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In the last few days, I have tried to encourage Pakistanis here on this forum to look at the evidence, not from Indian sources, but their own sources, and judge for themselves why these people have allowed Indian jets to bomb Pakistan and kill 40+ people on 6/7 May.
It is now clear from the facts emerging and confirmed by Warnes that Pakistan jammed Indian jets. Remember he has quoted CAF Sindhu in his tweet. It is also said that Pakistan has full satellite and radar coverage of the packages sent by India from different airbases. Pakistan Air Vice Marshal Aurangzeb showed journalists a radar feed of Indian packages.
The logical question is then why Pakistanis allowed Indian jets to attack Pakistani residential areas on 6/7 May? Why didn't they shoot down Indian jets before they attacked Pakistan? Why did they restrict themselves to just 6 claimed jets? Why not more? When no less a figure than Deputy PM Dar said, we could have shot down three times the jets.

Listening to the advisor to the PM, Rana, it is clear; he said that political and military leadership said the response given is enough and no more response unless India attacks again. That was 12:41 on 7th July; by that time, the only action taken by Pakistan was the shooting down of Indian jets.

The sad point is that instead of anyone responding and giving valid and sane reasons for Pakistanis actions, mostly people are keen to portray me as an Indian, despite me laughing and denying it.

I have also received threats of banning of my account.

It is very plain and clear that Pakistanis in general are not very tolerant people; they don't like sensible debate and don't want to listen to alternative voices and points of view.

I can say a lot, but I don't think people here are receptive to constructive criticism.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

"For the record the #PakistanAirForce Commander earlier this week never denied that his bases had been hit. I was at one of them today. And on the fourth #Rafale being shot down, he explained why it took two months to confirm. And it stacked up with what I'd witnessed." Alan Warnes

 

[Foinikas]

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ΣΑΑΑΑΡ! PLIZ WE OFFER GREECE AND ARMENIA CONTRY AKASH and BRAHMOS advanced systems!

 

[Rational Philosopher]

ΣΑΑΑΑΡ! PLIZ WE OFFER GREECE AND ARMENIA CONTRY AKASH and BRAHMOS advanced systems!

Let me sweeten the deal for you, if you buy a pair of Akash and BrahMos batteries we will throw in an additional 1 million Indian Aryan workers for Greece to aid your population growth, top tier genetic quality, Indian Aryans from Bihar.

 

[Foinikas]

Let me sweeten the deal for you, if you buy a pair of Akash and BrahMos batteries we will throw in an additional 1 million Indian Aryan workers for Greece to aid your population growth, top tier genetic quality, Indian Aryans from Bihar.

What was the other super weapon system? Vishnu missiles? What was it called?

 

[Rational Philosopher]

What was the other super weapon system? Vishnu missiles? What was it called?

Vishnu hypersonic weapon is still under development but for best friend Greece we can add this to the deal when it's ready.

 

[Foinikas]

Vishnu hypersonic weapon is still under development but for best friend Greece we can add this to the deal when it's ready.

Didn't Armenians order Akash?

 

[Windjammer]

Proof is there and coming out to put a nail in Bakhtoras coffins.

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[Alex]

India is lucky to have Pakistan as neighbor, any mischief you guys do, we come and whip you guys and you guys claim victory.but then people you also claim 1971 war as victory when your country was split into 2 and 90,000 of your brave soldiers surrendered. Amazing ability to see victory.

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This is an absolute lie. There are numerous videos and photographs posted by the Indians which clearly showed Pakistani bombs and missiles landing inside India at various areas and sites.
Bharwana has just posted the following video. It shows clearly that Indians were using a human shield by placing their air defences well inside a residential compound.

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[PK781]

What a PHAG0T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ, this is exactly what I wrote in my post on this thread. I'm starting to believe the 6 shot down planes is an outright lie to provide the Pakistani people with some sort of fait accompli that all is well but really I'm starting to believe that number is inflated. They let the Indians come in and murder innocent Pakistanis sleeping in their homes and mosques and this son of a Hera Mandi Wh*re on the date it occurred is say all is well.
If gaslighting was a person.

These types of "Muslims" deserve to be bombed at will for they are the worst of the all the beings Allah SWT created. Even the May 10th "massive attack" was a big can of nothing. Some soldiers launching missiles during Hi-Tea and then claiming of a massive attack. Such unprofessional soldering I have ever seen.
I want to smash the Indians faces. This is why @MastanKhan is right. Because of Pakistani cowardice, you've basically embolden the subhumans Paj33ts and now they know they can use as many missiles and drones as possible and Pakistan won't do much while hiding behind "but but but IMF loans and International Community."

I watched an American Podcast that had a Chinese guest on (Chinese American) and he basically called out Pakistan's failures during this time - not taking the imitative to finally smash the Indians psyche of superiority.

The War Nerd was right to call them out 23 years and I see nothing has changed.

War Nerd: Fag vs. Fag: the India-Pakistan Phoney War - By Gary Brecher - The eXiled

exiledonline.com

the so-called restraint will bite us hard eventually......every other week there's notam's issued by india which means our jets and ships and etc have to be on alert, which obviously will drain many resources on extra fuel supplies and manpower to keep this going. How long can/will it go on?

This what happens when u don't finish the job once. You have to keep going back 10 times. Our only hope is that these cuck/coward/thieves are wiped out in the next rounds that's the only way we get rid of corrupt leeches who are destroying us from within.
indian narrative and media still adamant on their propaganda and they keep doing terror attacks in our country......while our in-charge does nothing but issue statements and verbal condemnations. Who in the world gives a **** about statements? !! Where is the full response??
these cucks r more about pleasing the saudis and the americans and being a "responsible state" while we lose highly valuable army soldiers, civilians to the terrorists in afghanistan and india.
If this behaviour carries on, we will keep bleeding civilians and soldiers in KP and Balochistan provinces. Eventually the morale in soldiers will die too.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Proof is there and coming out to put a nail in Bakhtoras coffins.

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I love how he keeps repeating the fourth Rafale, and how what "PAF" is showing him correlates with "what he has been shown", implying that he has had access to information in the UK of what actually happened, and India's actual losses.

 

[Master Chief]

In the last few days, I have tried to encourage Pakistanis here on this forum to look at the evidence, not from Indian sources, but their own sources, and judge for themselves why these people have allowed Indian jets to bomb Pakistan and kill 40+ people on 6/7 May.
It is now clear from the facts emerging and confirmed by Warnes that Pakistan jammed Indian jets. Remember he has quoted CAF Sindhu in his tweet. It is also said that Pakistan has full satellite and radar coverage of the packages sent by India from different airbases. Pakistan Air Vice Marshal Aurangzeb showed journalists a radar feed of Indian packages.
The logical question is then why Pakistanis allowed Indian jets to attack Pakistani residential areas on 6/7 May? Why didn't they shoot down Indian jets before they attacked Pakistan? Why did they restrict themselves to just 6 claimed jets? Why not more? When no less a figure than Deputy PM Dar said, we could have shot down three times the jets.

Listening to the advisor to the PM, Rana, it is clear; he said that political and military leadership said the response given is enough and no more response unless India attacks again. That was 12:41 on 7th July; by that time, the only action taken by Pakistan was the shooting down of Indian jets.

The sad point is that instead of anyone responding and giving valid and sane reasons for Pakistanis actions, mostly people are keen to portray me as an Indian, despite me laughing and denying it.

I have also received threats of banning of my account.

It is very plain and clear that Pakistanis in general are not very tolerant people; they don't like sensible debate and don't want to listen to alternative voices and points of view.

I can say a lot, but I don't think people here are receptive to constructive criticism.

Firstly, I will preface my response as follows - it is worth noting that this individual whom you are referencing (Rana Sanaullah) is a known fraud and I would go so far as to say a traitor who has smuggled his way into positions of political note. But then, the same could be said of most political officials in Pakistan today.

Nevertheless, I do accept what you have said though, and am always happy to be corrected - evidently, this man's statement does support your theory. This was not an official statement and it seems to be his ill judged response to a reporter's question.

The problem that remains is with your overall narrative, that Pakistan's Air Force "permitted" stand off weaponry to be used against civilian targets. This is quite a stretch of the imagination to make from the 20 second clip you posted of Rana Sanaullah behaving in his typically cowardly manner.

Feel free to elaborate on exactly how stand-off missile strikes can be stopped. Most observers would agree that India firing across the IB was an unexpected event and whatever locks PAF had or didn't have would not have stopped that attack. PAF - and no air force on earth - can fire their air to air missiles quickly enough after stand off missiles are fired to thwart those specific attacks. It is sheer lunacy to suggest otherwise. PAF's job was to retaliate after those attacks, which they did, and despite Sanaullah's whimpering, that retaliation went on beyond the downing of jets.

Now beyond that, I actually agree with you and many others that our response still was not sufficient. After the IB breach had occurred, as far as i am concerned, the gloves should have come off and all subsequent locks should have been acted on. I am certain that we could have downed more than a dozen of their jets but IMHO, politicians (perhaps Sanaullah included) used this accursed and treasonous "restraint" doctrine to remove our foot from the throat of the enemy.

So, in short, I am of the opinion that nothing could have been done to stop the initial attacks on Bahawalpur and other trans-IB positions as these were simply a surprise attack - I disagree with your assertions otherwise and remind you once again, that this theory is prevalent on Indian fora only. Thereafter, I agree that the gloves should have come off completely and we definitely let them off the hook.

Lastly, I remain certain that you, my dear friend, are an Indian or of Indian origin, (since you seem to understand Urdu quite well).

Mixing Indian narratives with genuine, well-intended critique of Pakistan's actions in May (i.e. a b.s. sandwich) should definitely result in a stern warning from moderators, but that is not for me to decide, so carry on and post whatever you wish to. I am happy to respond.

 

[Toxic]

I love how he keeps repeating the fourth Rafale, and how what "PAF" is showing him correlates with "what he has been shown", implying that he has had access to information in the UK of what actually happened, and India's actual losses.

Ok I am not trying to question warnes as a journalist but I have to raise a question on why he is making claims without being allowed to publicly show proof, If he is not careful he might end up hurting his own credibility.

 

[MastanKhan]

Well, here is one Pakistani minister categorically saying to a Pakistani journalist on 7th May.

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Hi,

I used to think that him being a RANA---he must be a brave man---a real warrior at heart.

When he got arrested by that PTI bigot Afridi---I felt sorry for Rana for the fake arrest---.

But when the real moment to fight came---I find out that the RANA is a COWARD---.

He has Jello in his BALLZ---.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Hi,

This was once in a lifetime opportunity for the Paf to neuter the IAF completely---.

The mercies of Allah had presented the enemy on a platter to take them out---all at the discretion of the Paf---Paf in total control---.

Never in the history of modern warfare a peer air force was at the mercy of another air force ready to be annihilated once for all---.

Listening to the statements made by the Paf General---I realized that they had no concept what the enemy had in plan.

The Paf was thinking that the enemy will back off with warning shots---.

Tghe problem is that the punjabis have never seen slavery to a different race for 800 years as the hindus have---.

They will obliterate us whenever they get the chance---today---tomorrow and from 50 years from today---.

The only thing Paf could have done is to have delayed it substantially for decades to come---.

Mahmud Ghaznavi---failed 16 times---the indians have only failed 4 times---.

Mahmud Ghaznavi got thrashing of his life 16 time---the indians got beat up pretty bad this time---.

Ghaznavi only needed one chance to succeed---whence he obliterated Somnath---after 16 failures---.

Slobodan Milisevich was a very educated person---played with muslim kids as he grew up---but when he became an adult---old wounds started festering---.

He would dig out the graves of old dead serbians---take out their bpones and claim that they were killed by the muslim invaders / rulers---riled up the serbian nation and slaughtered the muslim natives.

Pakistan is also going to be a victim of that onslaught---people like Gen Bahkshi---Major Gaurav Ariya---etc etc etc---and PM Modi himself---are like Milosevich---trying to wake up their nation---slowly but surely---.

And what did the PAF do---let thirty three 33 Rafales escape---at least they could have taken all the Rafales out---india would have calmed down for 20 years---.

And what after shoot down of 33 IAF rafale, you're pretending to be stupid, you calling nuclear clash between 2 nuclear aarmed nattion lol