Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[lightning f57]

All satellites have suddenly been disabled and poor ISPR isn’t able to lay hands even on a grainy picture of Indian bases. Hilarious part is that kids are even ready to buy this story.

As I said to you multiple times absence of evidence on the Internet does not mean Indian bases were not damaged or that their S400 AD not damaged. ISPR does not need to appease you or me, they won the narrative internationally that's why no country condemned Pak for a terror attack it did not do and India was left isolated completely. This whole episode helped push US Pak relations more positively.

Nothing is stopping the Indian side to release before May 7 and after May 10 satellite images as well to say look no damage. The pro zionist media after TP2 were saying how crap Iranian missiles were, it took months to see the impacts on Nevatim, damages on Tel Nof still not seen although acknowledged.

 

[Cash gk]

All these would have been achieved without firing a single Fatah, artillery shells or CM400s.
Action on the 7th May, was the highest point for your side and the lowest for Indian.
As soon as your fighters landed back and it became clear that IAF had lost few fighters, Pakistan should have openly declared a one sided ceasefire, unless, India made anymore moves. This would have kept the doors open for further action if provoked and put India in a bind. India would have been under tremendous pressure to not make any more moves.
BUT, your establishment had to show that they could inflict damage to India and decided against it. Were they able to inflict that damage? A lot of people are waiting (not fanboys) for some proof. All satellites have suddenly been disabled and poor ISPR isn’t able to lay hands even on a grainy picture of Indian bases. Hilarious part is that kids are even ready to buy this story.

It was nice effort by you to write a long paragraph and declare success on all fronts, but it wasn’t so.

Whatever, Munir had thought to achieve after 7th May hasn’t been seen by anyone except the big brigade of fanboys.

He did get one extra star. Probably, that was his plan all along.

Abbe abb mar k deka lol you remind me someone lol

 

[Cash gk]

All these would have been achieved without firing a single Fatah, artillery shells or CM400s.
Action on the 7th May, was the highest point for your side and the lowest for Indian.
As soon as your fighters landed back and it became clear that IAF had lost few fighters, Pakistan should have openly declared a one sided ceasefire, unless, India made anymore moves. This would have kept the doors open for further action if provoked and put India in a bind. India would have been under tremendous pressure to not make any more moves.
BUT, your establishment had to show that they could inflict damage to India and decided against it. Were they able to inflict that damage? A lot of people are waiting (not fanboys) for some proof. All satellites have suddenly been disabled and poor ISPR isn’t able to lay hands even on a grainy picture of Indian bases. Hilarious part is that kids are even ready to buy this story.

It was nice effort by you to write a long paragraph and declare success on all fronts, but it wasn’t so.

Whatever, Munir had thought to achieve after 7th May hasn’t been seen by anyone except the big brigade of fanboys.

He did get one extra star. Probably, that was his plan all along.

Munier banyak has achieved so much. Because your fucking stupidly going to make Pakistanis Pay..
thum logo ney apni tu g….. d marrvi now we Pakistani have to pay.

 

[Cash gk]

Recently, the Pakistani Air Force Chief said that they shot down four Indian Rafale jets. Has there been any denial or official response from India? Did they issue any clarification or contradiction regarding this ?

 

[PK781]

"seems to be"?

hah thanks.......i'm glad to be not the only one with that thought..

 

[RafaleSlayer]

Islamic rulers administratively united large areas, India was never fully under one ruler at any point in history.
The Christian British unified India under a single administrative structure — railways, law, bureaucracy .. The f*** this idiot is talking

india was never a country, a collection of many princely states and small autonomous regions

 

[Cash gk]

india was never a country, a collection of many princely states and small autonomous regions

That’s what I’m saying it was Muslim and Christian united the country these f…..k Hindus think they have this country and they are the reason to unite India. They have no idea those who can make it they can break it.

 

[Cash gk]

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Its funny dalit like Doval now think it was mughals that were humiliating his ancestors and not aryan invaders.

There is one thing very clear Indians are living in their own world

 

[Vkdindian1]

Munier banyak has achieved so much. Because your fucking stupidly going to make Pakistanis Pay..
thum logo ney apni tu g….. d marrvi now we Pakistani have to pay.

My apologies for this oversight. Please accept my sympathies.

 

[Salza]

Burden of proof rests with the one making the claim. Not the accused.

There’s no doubt that IAF received historic trashing which forced them to be grounded for 2 days & even after that, was forced to operate from extreme ranges. But DGISPR claiming 4 Rafales shot, Indian bases destroyed are concoctions.

India lost 4 planes from what can be objectively verified. Anything beyond that requires solid proof from Pakistan. If no evidence is forthcoming, it’s going to be placed under the “things that didn’t happen” category.

There is digital data to back the claim and that cannot be brought in public domain to satisfy everyone.

 

[Oscar]

I am not complaining. I agree with the PAF assessment of not carrying out such missions, as there was a strong possibility of S400 coming into action.

There are many kids here, who have assumed that shooting down of few fighters in 7th, gave them the capability to carry out any missions they wanted and should have levelled few IAF bases. They are complaining that this was done out of compassion and restraint. They just refuse to believe that this wasn’t possible and couldn’t be attempted, unless a full blown war breaks out.

Pak did right thing to use other weapons to try and attack Indian establishments. The choice of those weapons seems to be wrong and they didn’t pivot in time to make a mark.

Oddly enough the PAF fmr CAS is claiming that capability to do this was demonstrated. I have also heard from other channels incl one who survived the Bholari hit that assets were flying well into India on the 10th.

Now, I cannot deny believing them as much as I can deny believing the opposite side. That being said, I believe there were less "hits" from the Pakistani side but also a lot of excessive "live to fight another day" behavior from the Indian side.

It truly does seem that many in the Indian military see through the political motives of certain actions and it reduces the fighting spirit regarding those actions.

 

[Vkdindian1]

Oddly enough the PAF fmr CAS is claiming that capability to do this was demonstrated. I have also heard from other channels incl one who survived the Bholari hit that assets were flying well into India on the 10th.

Now, I cannot deny believing them as much as I can deny believing the opposite side. That being said, I believe there were less "hits" from the Pakistani side but also a lot of excessive "live to fight another day" behavior from the Indian side.

It truly does seem that many in the Indian military see through the political motives of certain actions and it reduces the fighting spirit regarding those actions.

You being an expert might have access to “horses mouth”.

I don’t have that luxury but do have access to friend’s friend kind of information and what has been told is that nothing was flying. Infact, the IAF was hoping like hell and S400s were being kept ready all through.
The sensors spread across the borders are adequate to detect an asset even in the densest EW scenario. Crossing this side appears a little unlikely to me.

I am pretty convinced that professionals were aware of all the consequences and had no inclination to escalate the situation to point of no return. This was displayed by both the sides.

 

[Oscar]

You being an expert might have access to “horses mouth”.

I don’t have that luxury but do have access to friend’s friend kind of information and what has been told is that nothing was flying. Infact, the IAF was hoping like hell and S400s were being kept ready all through.
The sensors spread across the borders are adequate to detect an asset even in the densest EW scenario. Crossing this side appears a little unlikely to me.

I am pretty convinced that professionals were aware of all the consequences and had no inclination to escalate the situation to point of no return. This was displayed by both the sides.

India's ADGE is way way more dense than Pakistan.
Lets see what Alan Warnes visit gets in terms of new Veri-claims - more data points to correlate.

At this point the issue to me is clear - there seems to be no clear emergency stop button nor individuals in majority to control things within the two countries.
Because if you do that then it's political/power suicide either way.

 

[Oscar]

Phalcon was a bad deal. Costly and poorly planned with insufficient numbers.
PAF is far far ahead on this.

That's what I keep telling Pakistanis is their saving grace. There is almost an unsolvable fault in the Indian bureaucracy/military administration that borderline suicidal in how it gets so involved in rubber stamping/seals of appreciation that it basically sabotages entire systems.

 

[NA71]

Burden of proof rests with the one making the claim. Not the accused.

There’s no doubt that IAF received historic trashing which forced them to be grounded for 2 days & even after that, was forced to operate from extreme ranges. But DGISPR claiming 4 Rafales shot, Indian bases destroyed are concoctions.

India lost 4 planes from what can be objectively verified. Anything beyond that requires solid proof from Pakistan. If no evidence is forthcoming, it’s going to be placed under the “things that didn’t happen” category.

someone posted here in this thread that Pakistani vesuon to neutral observer is being taken as weaker (may 9 & 10) because of photo evidences.....the Indians showing photos and imagery are have more substance....that's what Divol is barking....
Another aspect of modern warfare.....prepare a photo backup of your strike missions.