Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Corax]

Do we have any details of how the hard kill assets performed against indian missiles, like HQ16 and especially the SPADA, I was quite surprised when the PAF acquired this given it's limited range, but would be interesting to see how the SPADA fared, if at all.

 

[Yasser76]

enforce complete and total air superiority?? How?

Forget IAF jets for a second, you think from S-400 to LRSAM, to Akash to Spyder were also out of service??


Not a single pakistan missile could strike its claimed target. CM-400 fall on large field 10miles from Adampur base. Of course pakistan while it had live Sat feed from China during the operation would not reveal damage pics of targets it claimed to have attacked.



13 airbases were struck by two dozen missiles .
See where runaways were hit. It is called with pin point accuracy
India got more than few 1000s of same type of missiles. It's a big deal.

Yes, up to 4 jets lost but as the defence attaché mentioned it was due to the pollical leadership fault who set a RoE that handicapped iaf. When that RoE was changed iaf struck Pakistani bases with drones and missiles wherever it choose.


LOL! This is so amusing. I love this delusion.
Bro, you people are from pakistan which was part of undivided India till 1947.

The region Alexander invaded is also in Pakistan.
Not a single Punjabi or Sindhi ever invaded any part of India, let alone conquered. While from Bihari Ashoka to Samudra Gupta to Hindu Sikh Ranjit Singh ruled parts of today's pakistan for many years.

In the real world, when you come back to it, you will realise 2 S-400 units were taken out.

Also, just out of interest, not a single wreckage of any Pakistani missile has been shown by India.

Weird no?

You guys always want evidence but never have any of your own to share.....

 

[onlinpunit]

This is a very good point. Let's assume Pak hit no Indian airbases, then what were those videos of Indians posting strikes by Pak which created large bellows of smoke, they surely hit something to cause such smoke. If they hit a house there would be PR from Indian media to show Pak "aggression". A missile landing in an open field wont cause a mushroom plume of smoke.

Also logically speaking what is easier to hit, a country like India which is massive and has no way the AD that Israel has or a small country like Israel with the worlds best AD protecting it.

So either Pak military used fireworks which were so bad they blew up before arriving to their target or there was some damage which has not been disclosed. Satellite doesn't pick up everything.

Please share any such video !!

 

[Meengla]

The Indians are clutching at straws. The missile attacks cratered few runways and the only substantial damage was to a hangar and human loss in Bholari AFB. So what?

Yes, 'so what?'
Even if the damage inside Pakistan was more, what is there to crow about?? Indian economy allows for a larger missile stock--far larger than Pakistan's--and there is no way any country would be able to stop a barrage of hypersonic missiles from a neighboring country and there were bound to be some hits. Heck, Iran from a long distance managed to hit Tel Aviv where there were some of the best air defense systems of NATO and Israel intercepting the Iranian missiles.
And it is also to be noted that Pakistan had not fired its own more potent missiles.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

enforce complete and total air superiority?? How?

Forget IAF jets for a second, you think from S-400 to LRSAM, to Akash to Spyder were also out of service??


Not a single pakistan missile could strike its claimed target. CM-400 fall on large field 10miles from Adampur base. Of course pakistan while it had live Sat feed from China during the operation would not reveal damage pics of targets it claimed to have attacked.



13 airbases were struck by two dozen missiles .
See where runaways were hit. It is called with pin point accuracy
India got more than few 1000s of same type of missiles. It's a big deal.

Yes, up to 4 jets lost but as the defence attaché mentioned it was due to the pollical leadership fault who set a RoE that handicapped iaf. When that RoE was changed iaf struck Pakistani bases with drones and missiles wherever it choose.


LOL! This is so amusing. I love this delusion.
Bro, you people are from pakistan which was part of undivided India till 1947.

The region Alexander invaded is also in Pakistan.
Not a single Punjabi or Sindhi ever invaded any part of India, let alone conquered. While from Bihari Ashoka to Samudra Gupta to Hindu Sikh Ranjit Singh ruled parts of today's pakistan for many years.

several super sonic missiles were fired, as per your Col Sophia.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

enforce complete and total air superiority?? How?

Forget IAF jets for a second, you think from S-400 to LRSAM, to Akash to Spyder were also out of service??


Not a single pakistan missile could strike its claimed target. CM-400 fall on large field 10miles from Adampur base. Of course pakistan while it had live Sat feed from China during the operation would not reveal damage pics of targets it claimed to have attacked.



13 airbases were struck by two dozen missiles .
See where runaways were hit. It is called with pin point accuracy
India got more than few 1000s of same type of missiles. It's a big deal.

Yes, up to 4 jets lost but as the defence attaché mentioned it was due to the pollical leadership fault who set a RoE that handicapped iaf. When that RoE was changed iaf struck Pakistani bases with drones and missiles wherever it choose.


LOL! This is so amusing. I love this delusion.
Bro, you people are from pakistan which was part of undivided India till 1947.

The region Alexander invaded is also in Pakistan.
Not a single Punjabi or Sindhi ever invaded any part of India, let alone conquered. While from Bihari Ashoka to Samudra Gupta to Hindu Sikh Ranjit Singh ruled parts of today's pakistan for many years.

The discussion about the downing of a Rafale began with claims of "social media evidence" and eventually boiled down to the assertion that "one Rafale was shot down."
May I ask how that conclusion was reached—especially when no wreckage has been seen, as you yourself (your establishment) had initially acknowledged?

That strikes me as duplicitous and deceptive.

It hints at the possibility of more severe losses.

First, the "social media evidence" is dismissed as bogus—a red herring—and then, paradoxically, accepted as proof of a loss (to avoid more questions!)

talk about 'magick'!

 

[NA71]

enforce complete and total air superiority?? How?

That one line is being thought and analyzed around the world in practically every Air Combat School.....The PAF Vs IAF - May 2025 "PAF Total air superiority?? How?"

 

[Meengla]

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Good read! Thanks for sharing.

 

[I*R*A]

Please share any such video !!

There are three threads of indians coping and denying and Pakistanis tirelessly trying to convince indians.

And after hundreds of pages here we are, "please share any such video!!" ... Zulekha aurat thi kay mard.

 

[onlinpunit]

There are three threads of indians coping and denying and Pakistanis tirelessly trying to convince indians.

And after hundreds of pages here we are, "please share any such video!!" ... Zulekha aurat thi kay mard.

So what is stopping you to post one !! In those hundred pages Srinagar AFB, Bhuj, Etc were claimed to be destroyed. Yet no pic ?

 

[suriya]

That one line is being thought and analyzed around the world in practically every Air Combat School.....The PAF Vs IAF - May 2025 "PAF Total air superiority?? How?"

That may be your assumption but not the reality.
Rest of the world have seen those Sat pics of Pakistani airbases hit by Indian missiles launched by IAF itself to reach your conclusion.

 

[Master Chief]

Please share any such video !!

Why?

Why would we share videos that will lead to incompetent senior military planners in Hindustan losing their jobs?

Give me oen SINGLE good reason that is in Pakistan's interests that we should share evidence of missile damage exerted by Pakistan upon India.

Air superiority has been proved. That is enough. We actually want your idiots to keep their jobs.

 

[I*R*A]

So what is stopping you to post one !! In those hundred pages Srinagar AFB, Bhuj, Etc were claimed to be destroyed. Yet no pic ?

Please accept our apologies, we could not mobilize our cameramen before the missile strikes, or else we would have provided your requested images. This is noted for future strikes, we will make sure our quality of service is at par with your expectations, ready, smile, camera, kaboom, photo. Would you like to see that posted on this forum or sent to you via mail?

 

[Master Chief]

That may be your assumption but not the reality.
Rest of the world have seen those Sat pics of Pakistani airbases hit by Indian missiles launched by IAF itself to reach your conclusion.

Let me explain to you what air superiority is.

It is the denial of airspace movement to your air force by Pakistani aerial and ground based assets.

This was, unequivocally, achieved after 7th May, as demonstrated by air traffic mapping and as accepted by your own military spokespersons , notably Gen Chauhan in an interview with Bloomberg post-conflict.

In terms of your SAMs (apart from the confirmed S400 hit which you are free to deny if it pleases your narrative), if Pakistan wished to, under the cover of air superiority, both aerial and ground assets could advance and destroy or overrun all of your SAM resources under the cover of 300km of air superiority.

There really is little to be said here that should be beyond your grasp.

 

[Yasser76]

That may be your assumption but not the reality.
Rest of the world have seen those Sat pics of Pakistani airbases hit by Indian missiles launched by IAF itself to reach your conclusion.

I will ask again as you avoided an answer.

Where are the pics of downed Pakistani missiles?

Pak showed downed Bhramos and SCALP.

So by this logic Pak air defence out performed Indian air defence.

Unless you can provide pics, all you have is BS words.....