Trump said five Indian Jets were shot down

Atleast four Indian officials admitted to the losses some of them even accepted the five jets and yet indians have the audacity to deny the loss one can imagine how desperate and delusional these guys are.
 
Why would we bother hitting your military when the real issue has always been your non state actors? It’s not about mosques or your army, it’s about the terror infrastructure you deny publicly but protect privately. That’s what we target. If Pakistan wants to be seen as an 'honourable enemy,' start by dealing with your own proxies and face India directly if you’ve got a problem
Yeah, why should we hit your civilians when the real issue is imposing costs to your crazed regime and its armed forces and preventing an escalation to elicit a nuclear response from us.l
Next round please.. we have more weapons to test.
 
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You attacked our places of worship, you bloody moron. Pakistan could have easily targeted your temples — especially those linked to terrorism, like the so-called BJP m, where Pakistan have solid proof that some of your temples are involved in terror activities.

But we didn’t. We know that there are ordinary, innocent people who pray there, even if a few terrorists hide among them. Pakistan refuses to stoop to your level. We will not kill innocent people in the name of revenge
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Will disagree here..,sorry.
I am not sure decency and playing by the rules is good option when dealing with ruthless fascist savagery at this extreme level
Some brutal truths: .
  • Destruction of mosques and killing of civilians resonates powerfully in the mindset of the fascists ( yes, the civilian masses who support the regime). It's the heady brew of vicious hatred on which the regime survives.
  • The India Pakistan war is viewed by the Indian masses in exactly the same way as the routine destruction of mosques and massacre of Muslims in organized pogroms across India. The Pakistani mosque targeted is not a sovereign territory of another nation, but yet another "structure " to be destroyed, similar to the way mosques are routinely destroyed in India.
  • Pakistani civilians are not off limits to killing under Geneva convention rules .Pakistanis are not civilians but "Muslims" and so must be mercilessly massacred with impunity , just as Muslims are massacred anywhere in India.
  • It's not a war over terrorism, territory, or water resources, but the continuation of an ancient religious conflict and Pakistan is locked in an existential struggle with an enemy full of a desire for "revenge for a perceived 1500 years of humiliation ".
  • It's an existential struggle and all means to impose costs on the enemy should be on the table, including retaliation in kind for the killing of our civilians and destruction of our houses of worship In the next round we should send a few DF-17s slamming into targets where it hurts the enemy psyche.
 
Okay today is cry day for Indians. 😁
Trump said five Indian Jets were shot down. 😂😂😂😂
This is going to bring a meltdown in Indian media. I am waiting for those India media statements now.
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He replaced B with C, 3 Idiots was a good movie.
 
We should ALL troll online that USAF pilot guy, who for likes or under someone's influence made those dumb statements in his vlog. We should post Trump's video in his comments so he can hear it.
Nah. He got paid for his services. Fair play to him. If the Bharati wants to pay some guy to cook up rank and file b.s. and then  still end up making IAF look stupid, then shame on the Bharati.
 
On May 8th, @TallGuy had said upto 14+ aircraft were impacted with 5 confirmed at that time. If they were Su30s, they can absorb a lot of damage. So a proximity hit may have not brought the aircraft down but damaged it badly. They may have limped back home.
A/C (retd.) Chishti (the unofficial spokesperson for PAF) only talked about "1 down, 2 down...." he did not mention any probables mentioned in live. Is it possible the PAF did also conduct that 'Srinagar raid' that has been talked about where Shiv Aroor mentioned, where he said, jets were brought down....🤔🤔
 
On May 8th, @TallGuy had said upto 14+ aircraft were impacted with 5 confirmed at that time. If they were Su30s, they can absorb a lot of damage. So a proximity hit may have not brought the aircraft down but damaged it badly. They may have limped back home.
so, essentially what this is means is...

to know the amount of damage, one needs to know, how many PL 15s were fired and since Indians could not show wreckage of PL 15, high chances that it damage (not completely destroyed) something

also,

given the corridor under which IAF operated (of around 200 KM ), also a hint, significant number of PL 15s were fired!

I'd say damaged aircraft are more than 14, may be around 20 (given the points mentioned above)

it would be overly prudent to over look the facts mentioned above!
 
In the worst they were using us like w**** for their dirty work, while supporting India economically and politically for white collar purposes. They gave India nuclear technology and access to Western markets, treating them favorably all while expecting us to handle the unpleasant tasks that help maintain their global order.

Now they’re applauding us again for doing the dirty work. But they’re beginning to realize that India is not a country capable of backing up its bragging with real strength. You see, their so-called ‘breeds’ are not made to fight wars they’re designed for show, not substance. If you look closely, they’re more like roosters — loud and decorative, existing only to play a role in the food chain, not in actual battle.

Not only nuclear technology but they transfered many other technologies to india that can be used to make advanced weapons systems. The fact that india have not been able to develop their own military equipment indigenously and have to rely on purchases from the west remains a staggering mystery. The americans have also invested 100s of billions of dollars into india over the past 24 years. Yet despite all of this, the indians remain incapable of taking on Pakistan militarily let alone fulfilling the west's role as acting as a bulwark against China. The americans and the west have now began to painfully realize this reality which has caused them to distance themselves and become indifferent to india.
 
I know us Pakistanis are enjoying Trump's statement. But has anyone REALLY thought WHY he made it so public? Usually, between government to government, you help hiding your friends loss to avoid embarrassment and Trump does a good job of it.

The REAL story is, Trump is pushing India towards F-35's!! This is his kind of last huge push by making it so public that Modi gets pressurized from home. This statement of his was really for the entire India so Modi can let go of his mindset and gets pushed into doing a contract out of public pressure and what now becomes a national security issue. Especially with news of Pakistan acquiring Chinese stealth platforms.

Trump played a genius stroke and has turned the entire India against Modi. Their media is now asking questions they were avoiding before and saying "we need the F-35". That was Trump's strategy. Pakistan now needs to counter it. I'd expect a US deal soon on this with India.

@MastanKhan @Windjammer @Oscar your thoughts?
And, the Bharati leadership knows the price to pay when they acquire F-35s. They will have to implement the dictats from the DC. And, the Pak Deep State has made a smart move by tying up the USA with its rare earth metals....

According to a Turkish defense analyst, Col Eray Gucluer (Turkish Army, retd) at a TV program: the Turkish radars could detect the IDF F-35s flying too close to her borders during the Iran-Israil War. And, the TurAF gave a warning....
 
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In all fairness to the Indians, Trump also did a presentation in the White House showing mass graves of murdered White farmers in South Africa. No such graves exist. Trump's entire presentation that evening in the White House was so devoid of facts and reality that it made us wonder whether he was living in an alternate universe. With all the CIA and other intelligence available to him as POTUS, we came to the conclusion that Trump hates reality. If some other independent world leader came out and made a claim about the loss of Indian jets, I would listen. Trump? NO
 
In all fairness to the Indians, Trump also did a presentation in the White House showing mass graves of murdered White farmers in South Africa. No such graves exist. Trump's entire presentation that evening in the White House was so devoid of facts and reality that it made us wonder whether he was living in an alternate universe. With all the CIA and other intelligence available to him as POTUS, we came to the conclusion that Trump hates reality. If some other independent world leader came out and made a claim about the loss of Indian jets, I would listen. Trump? NO


Agreed. The claim of 5 indian fighter jets shot down was an underestimate. The REAL number is actually much higher. Most people don't realise is that Trump is ACTIALLY covering for his indian allies.
 
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