Top 10 OIC military power ranking

[Abdulaziz]

BMs and CMs are your only strike weapons of modern war. With what you are going to strike a strong country ? Let's take example of Israel. You are only going to strike them with BMs or CMs. Ofcourse they will not let you come and hit using gravity bombs or laser guided bombs. You have to hit with BMs or CMs.

All Western countries are developing modern cruise missiles. Multi million dollar cruise missiles. UK, France, US and other major powers have BMs too. Israel used Air launched Ballistic missile so much. China is investing a lot in advance CMs and BMs.

BMs and CMs are critical component of modern warfare. You cannot win a war or even survive one without these. So my point is all arab nations must develop their own BM capability. For how long you will remain defensive. Start investing in long range strike capability that can be achieved by BMs / CMs. Your Airforce won't do much if opponents have 5th gen fighters.

You need to read my first post I said everyone is developing it you just don´t look around different defense companies from different countries are doing it.. If you don´t search won´t know it but if you follow closely you would know. Evereyone is developing them.

Besides Missiles don´t decide wars not even close it can destroy a building thats about it

 

[WARSIDT]

1. Turkey (Good everywhere including weapons production)
2. Pakistan (Good everywhere including has good suppliers)
3. Egypt (Good everywhere has production capacity)
4. Indonesia (Good everywhere and has good navy production)
5. KSA (Good everywhere, plus improving weapons production and has good suppliers)
6. Algeria (Good everywhere, plus strong navy, needs better supplier, involved in arms race)
7. Morocco ( Good everywhere and has good suppliers)
8. UAE ( Good everywhere, improved weapons production capacity)
9. Malaysia (Good everywhere but needs to improve it´s air force bulk)
10. Jordan (Good everywhere but has little to low population 12m which decreases them on the list)

I will list top 16 as bonus

11. Bangladesh (Has large manpower base and getting better could see them in top 10 in the next 5 years depending on their procurement, needs airforce upgrade)
12. Uzbekistan (It only lacks to improve it´s airforce I heard they will purchase J10 soon, it has population potential, plus fiercer people)
13. Kazakhstan (It also needs to improve it´s air it has SU-30s but still it needs to improve upon that otherwise overall very good army)
14. Iran (They have lost alot of tech but weak air defense and air force has sink them to 14 place but they can´t go lower due to population potential)
15. Qatar/Azerbaijan (Very solid armament both Airforce and conventional) and as for Azeribaijan they will soon jump into top 10 as Turkey is constantly selling them best stuff

"2. Pakistan (Good everywhere, including has good suppliers)"
"3. Egypt (Good everywhere, including has good production capacity)"
"4. Indonesia (Good everywhere and has good navy production)" (that's a real joke, btw)
"5. KSA (Good everywhere, plus improving weapons production and has good suppliers)"

Türkiye should say: Top of the list in every field and every production of the Defense Industry...

We already produce everything the four countries you mentioned are trying to produce, or we're in the final stages of the project. There aren't even countries on the list that have a navy equivalent to the number of ships we produce. And Pakistan shares the same rank with Turkey due to its nuclear capabilities. And these are the only two countries on the list that can defend themselves anyway. Your list is utter nonsense.

Listing Türkiye as a Muslim country is a bit absurd; we're doing what we can. Another administration comes along and gives the Muslim world the middle finger and hangs out with the West. Or they approach everything with a smile, sell weapons, and then continue without any connection to anything. In other words, we're playing the usual middle man.

 

[Indos]

damn, we are even below Bangladesh and Uzbekistan. lol

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Nothing to worry bro, even Asia Power index made by Australian Phd's under Lowy Institute think tank put Indonesian technology behind Brunei. ISS defense think tank org put Singapore defense industry above Turkiye, Indonesia, and India

 

[Pak-Warrior]

@Farhan23 you are making laughing emojis like a monkey which you are : D

Get out of your localized hatred and you will see a larger picture. and try to use your brain once in your life and respond with facts or information. But no all you can do is perform your habbit on every post. Carry on

 

[Abdulaziz]

You may be is right on this one. But they sure have very advance and capable Ballistic missile program. Ranges in excess of 2000 Kms and getting more and more accuracte. Atleast some of their hits always are able to penetrate into world's most advance layered Air defense. If you say they overwhelm, so what? ofcouse they do. Its their war strategy. Which other OIC country can do tthat? Maybe only Pakistan but no other.

Come on bro.. We saw Hamas overwhelm these Israel air defense systems and so did Hezbollah. It is not difficult you just gotta throw 200 atleast in the beginning and overwhelm the system it is just a dumb electronic in the end.

Israel´s air defense itself is not that good and overrated

 

[Farhan23]

Listing Türkiye as a Muslim country is a bit absurd; we're doing what we can. Another administration comes along and gives the Muslim world the middle finger and hangs out with the West. Or they approach everything with a smile, sell weapons, and then continue without any connection to anything. In other words, we're playing the usual middle man.

This last part is one of the most truthful posts I have seen. Turkey is always one election away from that

 

[Indos]

Nothing to worry bro, even Asia Power index made by Australian Phd's under Lowy Institute think tank put Indonesian technology behind Brunei. ISS defense think tank org put Singapore defense industry above Turkiye, Indonesia, and India

@MMM-E
@Raj-Hindustani

You guys need to confront this Phd's analysis ...............

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[Scorpio]

If Pakistan can convince turkish and Chinese to use Chinese engine in KAAN instead of America for Pakistan variants....

That will give common engine source to PAF plus no threatening of engine blocking by American ...

Plus we can might able to add Chinese BRV on them ... Will be big booster ...

 

[Indos]

"2. Pakistan (Good everywhere, including has good suppliers)"
"3. Egypt (Good everywhere, including has good production capacity)"
"4. Indonesia (Good everywhere and has good navy production)" (that's a real joke, btw)

You need to confront Korean Aerospace Industry association

https://aerospace.or.kr/eng/mn06/mn06_04.php#:~:text=Korea%20Aviation%20Industry%E2%80%99s%20Capability%20A%20certain%20level%20of,to%20be%20capable%20of%20indigenously%20developing

 

[ety]

If Pakistan can convince turkish and Chinese to use Chinese engine in KAAN instead of America for Pakistan variants....

Not likely possible. Conflict of interest.

 

[MMM-E]

@MMM-E
@Raj-Hindustani

You guys need to confront this Phd's analysis ...............

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Turkish Defense Industry with over 1.000 military projects is top level advanced military industry complex in the world


Only a few examples

Ground based hypersonic Ballistic Missiles in NATO
-- American DARK EAGLE ( speed of mach 5 )
-- Turkish TAYFUN ( speed of mach 5,2 ) ... also CENK Missile on the way

MLRS and guided Missiles in NATO
-- USA
-- Turkiye

Attack and Utility Helicopters with turboshaft Engine technology in NATO
-- USA
-- France/The UK
-- Turkiye

UCAV technologies in NATO
-- USA
-- Turkiye

Cruise Missiles , air to ground supersonic missile , 5th gen anti-Tank Missiles , long range land attack Cruise Missiles , coastal defense Missiles , anti-radiation Missile
-- USA
-- France
-- Turkiye

Layered Air Defense Systems in NATO
-- USA
-- France
-- Turkiye ( KORKUT , SUNGUR , GURZ , GOKDEMIR , HISAR-A/O , SIPER )

Air to Air Missiles in NATO
-- USA
-- France
-- Turkiye ( GOKDOGAN , BOZDOGAN in inventory also GOKHAN on the way )

Electronic Warfare Systems in NATO
-- USA
-- Turkiye
-- The UK
-- France

Airborne , Naval and Land based AESA Radars in NATO
-- USA
-- France
-- The UK
-- Turkiye
-- Italy

Airborne stand off Jammer Aircraft in NATO
-- USA
-- Turkiye
-- France

Naval Industry in NATO
-- USA
-- France
-- The UK
-- Turkiye
-- Italy/Spain


Also Turkish major military projects are under construction or under development such as KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet , KIZILELMA and ANKA-3/4 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets , TF-2000 class Destroyer , 285 m Aircraft Carrier , MILDEN class AIP Submarine

 

[mythbuster]

KAAN 5th gen Fighter Project is progressing very well and 6 more prototypes will be produced in 2025-2026

All subsystems including AESA Radar , IRST , EOTS , DIRCM , HMDS , EW Suite , Mission computer of KAAN are easy for the Turkish defense industry.

Only 35.000 lbs indigenous turbofan engine will take more 7-10 years


in the next 10 years, with the completion of all major military projects, Türkiye will have a formidable military power that is by far unparalleled in the Islamic world

-- KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet with KIZILELMA and ANKA-3/4 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets with GOKHAN ramjet powered long range air to air missile

-- Layered Air Defense System ( KORKUT , SUNGUR , GURZ , GOKDEMIR , HISAR-A/O and SIPER ) to intercept all threats

-- 285 m Aircraft Carrier with TF-2000 class Destroyers
-- MILDEN AIP Submarine and NUKDEN class nuclear Submarine
-- Hypersonic Missiles
-- Long range AESA Radars and Space based Radars
-- Electronic Warfare Systems
-- HAVASOJ airborne stand off Jammer Aircraft


1 --Turkiye will have technologies that are unique in the Islamic world and only a few countries in the world

2 -- Pakistan has nuclear weapons but Pakistan needs conventional defense industry to produce all weapons to become a real independent military power

3 -- Iran has great Missile power including Hypersonic Ballistic Missiles
but Iran also needs conventional defense industry to produce all weapons

Other muslim Countries dont have even a potent Defense Industry

7 to 10 years for engine development is a big downer .

 

[ety]

You need to confront Korean Aerospace Industry association

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Is this Korean joke as the K-Pop ? South Korea also classifies itself as a space superpower possibly ahead of China.

 

[Indos]

Turkish Defense Industry with over 1.000 military projects is top level advanced military industry complex in the world


Only a few examples

Ground based hypersonic Ballistic Missiles in NATO
-- American DARK EAGLE ( speed of mach 5 )
-- Turkish TAYFUN ( speed of mach 5,2 ) ... also CENK Missile on the way

MLRS and guided Missiles in NATO
-- USA
-- Turkiye

Attack and Utility Helicopters with turboshaft Engine technology in NATO
-- USA
-- France/The UK
-- Turkiye

UCAV technologies in NATO
-- USA
-- Turkiye

Cruise Missiles , air to ground supersonic missile , 5th gen anti-Tank Missiles , long range land attack Cruise Missiles , coastal defense Missiles , anti-radiation Missile
-- USA
-- France
-- Turkiye

Layered Air Defense Systems in NATO
-- USA
-- France
-- Turkiye ( KORKUT , SUNGUR , GURZ , GOKDEMIR , HISAR-A/O , SIPER )

Air to Air Missiles in NATO
-- USA
-- France
-- Turkiye ( GOKDOGAN , BOZDOGAN in inventory also GOKHAN on the way )

Electronic Warfare Systems in NATO
-- USA
-- Turkiye
-- The UK
-- France

Airborne , Naval and Land based AESA Radars in NATO
-- USA
-- France
-- The UK
-- Turkiye
-- Italy

Airborne stand off Jammer Aircraft in NATO
-- USA
-- Turkiye
-- France

Naval Industry in NATO
-- USA
-- France
-- The UK
-- Turkiye
-- Italy


Also Turkish major military projects are under construction or under development such as KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet , KIZILELMA and ANKA-3/4 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets , TF-2000 class Destroyer , 285 m Aircraft Carrier , MILDEN class AIP Submarine

Dont argue with me, you need to argue in ISS official twitter account

For Korean analisist, this is what their aerospace industry thinks, not me who made that diagram

 

[Scorpio]

7 to 10 years for engine development is a big downer .

Engine maturity take decades not years .. look at Chinese... Now they have started to get better out if it...

How many countries in world that can make good jet engine??

American and European engine have good numbers year service on them ... But look at Russian and there descendents Chinese engine have limited hour on them ..