Yasser76
Elite Member
Sure, it is just when we prepare a statement to the UN, it is always carefully worded. Seems like officlally we are claiming 6?
India Lucky Not To Lose More Than Four Rafales
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Sure, it is just when we prepare a statement to the UN, it is always carefully worded. Seems like officlally we are claiming 6?
Corax
Registered Member
We definitely hit a Mig-29, there's pics of the wreckage which clearly show the distinctive tail fins of the 29.Mmmmmm, interesting, Pak FO stating 6 Indian planes downs and PAF CAS stating 4 Rafales. This syncs with Defence Min Asif saying he saw evidence of 6. Warnes/CAS is saying 4 Rafales.
I am starting to think 6 instead of 7 but instead of 4 Rafales, 1 MIG-29, 1 SU-30, 1 Mirage 2000 we did not hit a MIG-29.
My guess is
4 Rafales
1 SU-30
1 Mirage 2000
At UNSC, Pakistan slams India for sponsoring cross-border terrorism
"It is India which actively sponsors, aids and abets terrorism in my country," says Ambassador Usman Jadoon
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July 23, 2025
Deputy Permanent Representative of Pakistan to the UN Ambassador Usman Iqbal Jadoon speaks during UN debate, July 22, 2025. — Screengrab X/@PakistanUN_NY
- Ambassador Jadoon accuses India of sponsoring regional terrorism.
- Pakistani diplomat urges India to end blame game, change behaviour.
- UN debate focuses on peace, multilateralism, and dispute resolution.
Pakistan has strongly rejected Indian accusations of cross-border terrorism, urging New Delhi to reflect on its actions rather than blaming others.
Speaking during a UNSC debate on “Promoting International Peace and Security through Multilateralism and Peaceful Settlement of Disputes,” Pakistan’s Deputy Permanent Representative to the UN, Ambassador Usman Jadoon, rejected Indian allegations and asked New Delhi to change its behaviour, instead of resorting to its tired narrative of victimhood and blame-shifting.
"It is India which actively sponsors, aids and abets terrorism in my country and beyond," Ambassador Usman Jadoon told the 15-member body on Tuesday evening, while responding to the allegations made by India's UN Ambassador Parvathaneni Harish.
Ambassador Jadoon said that it was especially regrettable that the Indian ambassador targeted Pakistan on Tuesday when earlier in the day, the Council spoke with a unanimous voice to reaffirm the purposes and principles of the UN Charter and the imperative of peaceful settlement of disputes, respect for international law and effective implementation of the resolution of the Security Council.
The Indian envoy was reacting to Pakistani Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar who underscored the need for the resolution of Kashmir dispute in a speech he gave in his national capacity after the adoption of Pakistan-sponsored resolution calling for the peaceful settlement of disputes.
"First of all," the Pakistani envoy asserted that India was in illegal occupation of the disputed territory of Jammu and Kashmir.
"While claiming to abide by the UN Charter and purportedly the principle of peaceful settlement of disputes, India has been in violation of Security Council resolutions on the Jammu & Kashmir dispute, and has refused to implement those resolutions, thereby denying the Kashmiri people the exercise of their inalienable right to self-determination," he added.
"India’s egregious violations of human rights, which extend beyond the occupied territory of Jammu and Kashmir and encompass its appalling treatment of minorities, have been widely reported by international human rights organisations,” Jadoon pointed out.
He also said that India has stooped to a new low of unilaterally and illegally holding in abeyance the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty – with the stated aim of depriving the people of Pakistan of water from the Indus river system.
“In gross violation of international law, India resorted to blatant aggression against my country between May 7-10, targeting civilians, including women and children,” the Pakistani envoy said, highlighting Pakistan's befitting but measured response by its right to self-defense, aimed exclusively at military targets resulting in the downing of six Indian aircraft that took part in the act of aggression, among other significant military losses.
"The hostilities came to an end owing to Pakistan’s position of strength and responsible approach, and facilitation of the United States, as also highlighted in the statement of the US [this morning], " Ambassador Jadoon told delegates.
"It is ironic that India, which itself brought the Jammu and Kashmir dispute to the UNSC, refuses to implement the resolutions adopted by the Council to peacefully resolve this dispute," the Pakistani envoy remarked.
Stung by the success of Pakistan’s signature event at the Council, the Indian envoy had claimed that Pakistan was “steeped in fanaticism and terrorism, and a serial borrower from the IMF.”
The debate will resume on July 24 to listen to the remaining speakers after listening to scores of high-level representatives.
Earlier, the UN Security Council unanimously adopted a Pakistan-sponsored resolution urging member-states to take measures for the effective implementation of the 15-member body’s resolutions for the peaceful settlement of disputes — such as Kashmir and Palestine.
The UNSC took action on the resolution at a meeting, organised under the "Maintenance of international peace and security" agenda item, that highlighted concerning trends of protracted and unresolved disputes threatening international peace and security, and calling for reinforced collective efforts to address them — one of the two signature events proposed by Pakistan under its presidency of the world body's power centre.
DPM Dar, who especially came to New York over the weekend to preside over the high-level event, put the resolution to a vote, and then banged the gavel confirming its adoption.
UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, who opened the debate, commended DPM Dar for convening the debate and for utilising the UNSC's presidency to put forward a resolution urging all member states to make full use of the tools in the collective pursuit of global peace, saying: "This is needed now more than ever."
At UNSC, Pakistan slams India for sponsoring cross-border terrorism
Ambassador Jadoon accuses India of sponsoring regional terrorism.Pakistani diplomat urges India to end blame game, change behaviour.UN debate focuses on peace, multilateralism, and dispute resolution.Pakistan has...www.geo.tv
Yasser76
Elite Member
Maybe the Mirage 2000 was a Rafale?
Corax
Registered Member
I think there's less tangible evidence for a Su-30, I think we hit 4 Rafales, 1 Mig-29, and 1 M2K. There's clearl visual evidence of a Fulcrum and Mirage, but less so for the Flanker.
Yasser76
Elite Member
This could be it!
Corax
Registered Member
And not forgetting the Israeli Heron UAV. I actually think the wreckage of the Heron is being mistaken for the Flanker.
Windjammer
VIP Member
- Thread starter
- #667
Flanker has definitely being taken out.
There were images of Two pilots in orange coveralls at the wreckage site .
Corax
Registered Member
I think that was the Heron, it shows the distinctive tail fins and booms of the Heron.
Vkdindian1
Registered Member
Doesn’t sound too convincing. Just empty noise without any substance.Mmmmmm, interesting, Pak FO stating 6 Indian planes downs and PAF CAS stating 4 Rafales. This syncs with Defence Min Asif saying he saw evidence of 6. Warnes/CAS is saying 4 Rafales.
I am starting to think 6 instead of 7 but instead of 4 Rafales, 1 MIG-29, 1 SU-30, 1 Mirage 2000 we did not hit a MIG-29.
My guess is
4 Rafales
1 SU-30
1 Mirage 2000
At UNSC, Pakistan slams India for sponsoring cross-border terrorism
"It is India which actively sponsors, aids and abets terrorism in my country," says Ambassador Usman Jadoon
By
APP
|
July 23, 2025
Deputy Permanent Representative of Pakistan to the UN Ambassador Usman Iqbal Jadoon speaks during UN debate, July 22, 2025. — Screengrab X/@PakistanUN_NY
- Ambassador Jadoon accuses India of sponsoring regional terrorism.
- Pakistani diplomat urges India to end blame game, change behaviour.
- UN debate focuses on peace, multilateralism, and dispute resolution.
Pakistan has strongly rejected Indian accusations of cross-border terrorism, urging New Delhi to reflect on its actions rather than blaming others.
Speaking during a UNSC debate on “Promoting International Peace and Security through Multilateralism and Peaceful Settlement of Disputes,” Pakistan’s Deputy Permanent Representative to the UN, Ambassador Usman Jadoon, rejected Indian allegations and asked New Delhi to change its behaviour, instead of resorting to its tired narrative of victimhood and blame-shifting.
"It is India which actively sponsors, aids and abets terrorism in my country and beyond," Ambassador Usman Jadoon told the 15-member body on Tuesday evening, while responding to the allegations made by India's UN Ambassador Parvathaneni Harish.
Ambassador Jadoon said that it was especially regrettable that the Indian ambassador targeted Pakistan on Tuesday when earlier in the day, the Council spoke with a unanimous voice to reaffirm the purposes and principles of the UN Charter and the imperative of peaceful settlement of disputes, respect for international law and effective implementation of the resolution of the Security Council.
The Indian envoy was reacting to Pakistani Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar who underscored the need for the resolution of Kashmir dispute in a speech he gave in his national capacity after the adoption of Pakistan-sponsored resolution calling for the peaceful settlement of disputes.
"First of all," the Pakistani envoy asserted that India was in illegal occupation of the disputed territory of Jammu and Kashmir.
"While claiming to abide by the UN Charter and purportedly the principle of peaceful settlement of disputes, India has been in violation of Security Council resolutions on the Jammu & Kashmir dispute, and has refused to implement those resolutions, thereby denying the Kashmiri people the exercise of their inalienable right to self-determination," he added.
"India’s egregious violations of human rights, which extend beyond the occupied territory of Jammu and Kashmir and encompass its appalling treatment of minorities, have been widely reported by international human rights organisations,” Jadoon pointed out.
He also said that India has stooped to a new low of unilaterally and illegally holding in abeyance the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty – with the stated aim of depriving the people of Pakistan of water from the Indus river system.
“In gross violation of international law, India resorted to blatant aggression against my country between May 7-10, targeting civilians, including women and children,” the Pakistani envoy said, highlighting Pakistan's befitting but measured response by its right to self-defense, aimed exclusively at military targets resulting in the downing of six Indian aircraft that took part in the act of aggression, among other significant military losses.
"The hostilities came to an end owing to Pakistan’s position of strength and responsible approach, and facilitation of the United States, as also highlighted in the statement of the US [this morning], " Ambassador Jadoon told delegates.
"It is ironic that India, which itself brought the Jammu and Kashmir dispute to the UNSC, refuses to implement the resolutions adopted by the Council to peacefully resolve this dispute," the Pakistani envoy remarked.
Stung by the success of Pakistan’s signature event at the Council, the Indian envoy had claimed that Pakistan was “steeped in fanaticism and terrorism, and a serial borrower from the IMF.”
The debate will resume on July 24 to listen to the remaining speakers after listening to scores of high-level representatives.
Earlier, the UN Security Council unanimously adopted a Pakistan-sponsored resolution urging member-states to take measures for the effective implementation of the 15-member body’s resolutions for the peaceful settlement of disputes — such as Kashmir and Palestine.
The UNSC took action on the resolution at a meeting, organised under the "Maintenance of international peace and security" agenda item, that highlighted concerning trends of protracted and unresolved disputes threatening international peace and security, and calling for reinforced collective efforts to address them — one of the two signature events proposed by Pakistan under its presidency of the world body's power centre.
DPM Dar, who especially came to New York over the weekend to preside over the high-level event, put the resolution to a vote, and then banged the gavel confirming its adoption.
UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, who opened the debate, commended DPM Dar for convening the debate and for utilising the UNSC's presidency to put forward a resolution urging all member states to make full use of the tools in the collective pursuit of global peace, saying: "This is needed now more than ever."
At UNSC, Pakistan slams India for sponsoring cross-border terrorism
Ambassador Jadoon accuses India of sponsoring regional terrorism.Pakistani diplomat urges India to end blame game, change behaviour.UN debate focuses on peace, multilateralism, and dispute resolution.Pakistan has...
Making such claims while TRF was declared a terrorist organisation few days after it was defended on the floor of the senate.
World is watching and laughing at such claims for extending full support to organisations like TRF while crying wolf.
Corax
Registered Member
The only crying wolf here it seems is the one who claims "impartiality", yet I see no difference from the average bakht and you. Tell me, how much do you get paid by the BJP or RSS to come spew their vitriol, is it by the word or by the hour?
TAC
Registered Member
Only thing world is watching and laughing at is humiliation of India and especially
AF —yet again, losing so many of its prized and best jets without shooting down a single PAF fighter. World powers that matter know exactly what occurred, through their own satellites & intelligence / are not fooled by the cope BS spewed from Indians and see that there is no substance to backup India’s arrogant swagger, bravado and bluster.
Windjammer
VIP Member
- Thread starter
- #673
Interesting fact : There were at least four Rafale operators who participated in the RIAT 2025....France, Egypt, Greece, Qatar.
Although plenty of Eurofighter Typhoons were present but none of the above four operators brought in their Rafale jets .
Although plenty of Eurofighter Typhoons were present but none of the above four operators brought in their Rafale jets .
RafaleSlayer
Registered Member
Trump is adding insult to the injury, on daily basis. I think he has some personal beef with Modi and wants to really rub it into his face.
RafaleSlayer
Registered Member
please do not post clickbait Indian garbage intended for delusional Indians. there are 1.5 billion Indians and they all lie and post on social media while defecating on the streets, we can't and don't need to watch that shit.
