Turkish Missile Programs

[MMM-E]

Bro speed, guidance and range stats please?

The technical specifications have not been officially announced yet.
GEZGİN is expected to have an initial range of 850-1.000 km with subsonic speed of mach 0.8



Turkish Army : KARA-ATMACA Cruise Missile ... ( also GEZGIN on the way )
French Army : Nope
German Army : Nope
British Army : Nope

KARA-ATMACA surface-to-surface Cruise Missile
Length : 6 m
Weight : 890 kg
Range : 400+ km
Speed : subsonic
Engine : KTJ-3700 turbojet
Guidance : INS + GPS + Barometric Altimeter + Radar Altimeter + TRN
Seeker : Imaging Infrared Seeker

The ATMACA UM Cruise Missile, developed within the scope of the KARA-ATMACA Project, has exceeded the 400 km range

 

[Afif]

Land Forces Commander General Selçuk Bayraktaroğlu:
(TAYFUN Block-4 Ballistic Missile)

We will have this system in our inventory by the end of this year. It will be a crucial deterrent.

As its range and speed increase, its deterrent effect will be global.

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TAYFUN Block4 hypersonic Ballistic Missile will enter the inventory by the end of 2025

Length : 10 m
Diameter : 938 mm
Weight : 7.200 kg
View attachment 136526

Ground based hypersonic Ballistic Missiles in NATO
-- American DARK EAGLE ( speed of mach 5 )
-- Turkish TAYFUN Block1 ( speed of mach 5.2 )
-- Turkish TAYFUN Block4 ( estimated maximum speed of mach 6-8 )

also CENK Ballistic Missile on the way
View attachment 136528

Turkiye focused on guidance systems for pinpoint accuracy
Turkish TAYFUN Ballistic Missile hit the target with pinpoint accuracy ( below 1 meter )

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US Army Dark eagle HGV has a speed of mach 17. These are not comparable.

"The Pentagon has previously said that this weapon would allow the Army and Navy to “strike targets hundreds and even thousands of miles away” and that it will get up to a speed of Mach 17."

Army Shows First-Ever Footage Of New Hypersonic Missile In Flight And Impacting

The Army and Navy are jointly developing the weapon, which is set to be both services' first-ever operational hypersonic missile.

www.twz.com

 

[MMM-E]

US Army Dark eagle HGV has a speed of mach 17. These are not comparable.

"The Pentagon has previously said that this weapon would allow the Army and Navy to “strike targets hundreds and even thousands of miles away” and that it will get up to a speed of Mach 17."

You are talking about Polaris-A3 SLBM carrying a prototype of the Common-Hypersonic Glide Body

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Wikipedia and armyrecognition.com says speed of mach 5

Dark Eagle LRHW Hypersonic Missile

Dark Eagle LRHW Long-Range Hypersonic Weapon Missile United States Technical Data Fact Sheet Pictures Video

armyrecognition.com

Long-Range Hypersonic Weapon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And TAYFUN Block1 Ballistic Missile with speed of mach 5,2


Maybe TAYFUN reach hypersonic speeds in midcourse

 

[Afif]

You are talking about Polaris-A3 SLBM carrying a prototype of the Common-Hypersonic Glide Body

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View attachment 136715
Wikipedia and armyrecognition.com says speed of mach 5

Dark Eagle LRHW Hypersonic Missile

Dark Eagle LRHW Long-Range Hypersonic Weapon Missile United States Technical Data Fact Sheet Pictures Video

armyrecognition.com

Long-Range Hypersonic Weapon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And TAYFUN Block1 Ballistic Missile with speed of mach 5,2
View attachment 136719

Maybe TAYFUN reach hyoersonic speeds in midcourse

No, Pentagon wasn't talking about Polaris carrying the Dark Eagle HGV. They are talking about the final product itself.

"this weapon would allow the Army and Navy to “strike targets hundreds and even thousands of miles away” and that it will get up to a speed of Mach 17."

It does not sound like something about interim booster's performance. It only make sense ogirinally intended booster would be more capable. But more improtantly, HGV won't simply reach a range of 2770km with a top speed of mach only 5. It would fall off the sky much earlier.

Neither wiki nor Armyrec is a reliable source. It is not even a debate when we have explicit statement from Pentagon.

 

[MMM-E]

Neither wiki nor Armyrec is a reliable source. It is not even a debate when we have explicit statement from Pentagon.

What about https://www.congress.gov ?

Common Hypersonic Glide Body (C-HGB) can travel at Mach 5 or higher on its own

The U.S. Army’s Long-Range Hypersonic Weapon (LRHW): Dark Eagle

www.congress.gov

Then Hypersonic Ballistic Missiles in NATO
-- Turkish TAYFUN Block-1 ( speed of mach 5.2 )
-- Turkish TAYFUN Block-4 ( estimated maximum speed of mach 6-8 )
also CENK Ballistic Missile on the way

Germany , France , Italy , The UK , etc dont have land based Ballistic Missiles
And USA has hypersonic glide vehicle

 

[Afif]

What about https://www.congress.gov ?

Common Hypersonic Glide Body (C-HGB) can travel at Mach 5 or higher

Yeah, higher. As clarified by DoD, up to mach 17.

 

[MMM-E]

Roketsan AKATA Submarine-launched Cruise Missile


Range: 250+ km
Weight: 1200 kg
Warhead : 220 kg
Diameter: 533 mm
Length: 7 m
Guidance : INS , GPS , barometric and radar altimeter and active radar seeker.
Data-Link

The system uses a sealed capsule to allow submerged launch from 533 mm torpedo tubes

The Akata is an encapsulated version of the Atmaca anti-ship missile,

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Good to see Turkey producing powerful Ballistic missiles. Including air-launched ones. These are critical to have against enemy which has strong air defenses.

Has Turkey also developed any supersonic CM ? that would be a great addition too.

 

[Oublious]

We saw the first footage off Roketsan RAMJET air to air missile, but people did forget the missile off Tubitak SAGE. Tomorrow they will unviel it.

Roketsan 160KM+
Tubitak 200/250KM+

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[MMM-E]

Roketsan GOKBORA with range of 100+ nm

1 nm = 1,85 km
100+ nm = 185+ km

 

[GoatsMilk]

Does anyone know what the unit cost is of Tayfun?

 

[hyperman]

Does anyone know what the unit cost is of Tayfun?

hasn't been released yet. Its probably cheaper than a western missile but not as cheap as an Iranian missile, given Iran's scale of production and managing to create cheap munitions.

 

[hodor]

We saw the first footage off Roketsan RAMJET air to air missile, but people did forget the missile off Tubitak SAGE. Tomorrow they will unviel it.

Roketsan 160KM+
Tubitak 200/250KM+

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Have we lost our minds? Why are we developing two different ramjet air-to-air missiles? Countries don't spend money twice on a technology that only a few in the world can produce. How logical is that?

 

[hyperman]

Have we lost our minds? Why are we developing two different ramjet air-to-air missiles? Countries don't spend money twice on a technology that only a few in the world can produce. How logical is that?

I think they may be for separate roles. One is solid fuel or is liquid. The ranges and use cases might be different as well. Its not uncommon to develop two different types of missiles.

 

[hyperman]

Roketsan GOKBORA with range of 100+ nm

1 nm = 1,85 km
100+ nm = 185+ km

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The Gokhan is revealed for the first time.

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