Chinese SAC - FC-31/J-35 5th Gen Stealth Aircraft

[corven]

Even that claimed seems very doubious, their ex air chief said Su 30mki can detect J20 from considerable distance.
What is considerable distance and even with the poor radar from Su-30 mki.

A country that treats Venus as a Chinese drone to protest. Just treat what they say as a joke. What credibility is there?

India: Army 'mistook planets for spy drones'

India's army spent six months watching "Chinese spy drones" violating its air space, only to find out they were actually Jupiter and Venus, it's reported.

www.bbc.com

 

[iblini]

A country that treats Venus as a Chinese drone to protest. Just treat what they say as a joke. What credibility is there?

India: Army 'mistook planets for spy drones'

India's army spent six months watching "Chinese spy drones" violating its air space, only to find out they were actually Jupiter and Venus, it's reported.

www.bbc.com

even with Luneberg Lens, there is no way a su30mki can detect a J20 unless it's like 30-50 km away or maybe even less.

 

[corven]

even with Luneberg Lens, there is no way a su30mki can detect a J20 unless it's like 30-50 km away or maybe even less.

It is the nature of Indians to love bragging. . .
Why should we take their words seriously?
I remember that when the J20 participated in the military parade in 2019, the airport radar could not detect the J20 that had opened the Luneburg lens over the airport. This caused great trouble to the rehearsal at that time.

 

[iblini]

It is the nature of Indians to love bragging. . .
Why should we take their words seriously?
I remember that when the J20 participated in the military parade in 2019, the airport radar could not detect the J20 that had opened the Luneburg lens over the airport. This caused great trouble to the rehearsal at that time.

ofc not, I am having fun looking at the Indians open tons of threads bragging about their system, even just on paper or with little progress.

 

[iblini]

lol?

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[Michael]

The SAC needs to take a hard look at the lessons learned from the US Navy helping us with the experiment in question ......

 

[ARMalik]

Dear Pakistani friends.
This is the main thread of the J-35 series fighter.
What we are discussing here are:

1. Technical issues of the J-35 series fighter
2. Its deployment in the PLA

For discussions on the PAF's J-35 and related international strategies, please go to the relevant thread.

@ All Members, Let us refrain from posting here. Lets see how many years it will take for this thread to reach 100 pages with anything useful in it.

 

[mdmm55]

It is a great wish of almost all overseas Pakistani to see 40 of J-35 jet fighters in Pakistan Airforce (PAF) in 2025 / 2026 .

 

[Nuffle]

The SAC needs to take a hard look at the lessons learned from the US Navy helping us with the experiment in question ......
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The PLANAF will have its own lessons to learn once the J-35 becomes operational.

It's worth noting that the F-35's stealth surfaces are extremely resilient in all conditions, according to the Lockheed team. This is true in part because the conductive materials needed to absorb and scatter incoming radar energy are incorporated directly into the aircraft's structure and multilayer composite skin.

The F-35C's Radar-Absorbent Skin Is Looking Pretty Rough After Months At Sea

F-35Cs have become covered in rusty-looking deposits on their first operational carrier cruise.

www.twz.com

This is TWZ's story about corrosion during the first operational deployment of the F-35C. I would argue that the operational tempo of stealth aircraft and proper maintenance will have a major impact on stealth aircraft corrosion.

 

[Michael]

According to information from other channels, My analysis is:
The maximum production capacity that the PLA's J-35 series fighters (naval version and air force version) can support does not exceed 240 aircraft/year.
The maximum production capacity that the FC-31/J-35 foreign trade version can support does not exceed 48 aircraft/year.
This is the current theoretical limit. That is, the maximum number that the relevant industrial chain planning can support is not the actual production volume. If the relevant industrial chain increases the relevant planned production capacity, the number will continue to rise.

CORRECTION:

SAC's actual future production of the J-35 family of fighters could be much lower than this assessment.

My analysis was based on the production capacity of the WS-21/WS-19 engines to assess the production capacity of the J-35 series fighters. The assumption is that all of these engines are used in the J-35 series fighters.
But!
I have received definite information. These engines are not only used for J-35 series fighters, they are also used for many other Chinese military aircraft (please don't ask about the exact usage).

 

[corven]

I still can't help but come in and laugh. As a Chinese, you should be very clear about the equipment rhythm of the Chinese military.

 

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[mdmm55]

CORVEN..
you raised important issues and practical plan point of China for China.
China is lookking forward. While US and India are repeating the past.

 

[Scorpio]

Note on't know about credibility of source

China's New PL-16 Air-to-Air Missile Revealed in Leaked Seminar Slide — Designed for J-35 and J-20 Stealth Jets



In a significant revelation, a leaked presentation from a Chinese military aviation seminar has unveiled details of the PL-16, an advanced long-range air-to-air missile under development by China.

According to a verified report by Army Recognition, the PL-16 appears to be a more compact evolution of the PL-15, allowing up to six missiles to be housed inside the internal weapons bay of the J-20 stealth fighter, compared to only four PL-15s. The missile is also reportedly intended for use on the next-generation J-35 stealth aircraft.

Though China has not officially confirmed the PL-16’s deployment, the information—derived from authentic training material—suggests active development and possible early-stage integration.

The PL-16’s estimated range of up to 300 km positions it alongside the U.S. AIM-260 and Russia’s R-37M, signaling a new phase in China’s air combat capabilities.

Report by Military Cognizance | Source: Army Recognition

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02EdQpeHR4P9MjCkyVpkuStFUfHvK6R7cK8F53WidnxWnpq9Ps8REy5hVyawu4axJ3l&id=100063693806550&mibextid=Nif5oz

 

[Michael]

Note on't know about credibility of source

China's New PL-16 Air-to-Air Missile Revealed in Leaked Seminar Slide — Designed for J-35 and J-20 Stealth Jets

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In a significant revelation, a leaked presentation from a Chinese military aviation seminar has unveiled details of the PL-16, an advanced long-range air-to-air missile under development by China.

According to a verified report by Army Recognition, the PL-16 appears to be a more compact evolution of the PL-15, allowing up to six missiles to be housed inside the internal weapons bay of the J-20 stealth fighter, compared to only four PL-15s. The missile is also reportedly intended for use on the next-generation J-35 stealth aircraft.

Though China has not officially confirmed the PL-16’s deployment, the information—derived from authentic training material—suggests active development and possible early-stage integration.

The PL-16’s estimated range of up to 300 km positions it alongside the U.S. AIM-260 and Russia’s R-37M, signaling a new phase in China’s air combat capabilities.

Report by Military Cognizance | Source: Army Recognition

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02EdQpeHR4P9MjCkyVpkuStFUfHvK6R7cK8F53WidnxWnpq9Ps8REy5hVyawu4axJ3l&id=100063693806550&mibextid=Nif5oz

It's true!
A few days ago, news of this incident surfaced on Chinese social media.

The author of this PPT is Academician Sun Cong.
The picture shows the specific envelope of PL-12/PL-15/PL-16 in a specific environment.