Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[hussain0216]

This genocide has shown us much of the mainstream Muslim world talk much but can't back up their talk. It also shows much of the Muslim world is outright lying about their character and misleading the public.

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The support is their, billions feel outraged however the governments are weak and the surrounding Arab states have made a collective action difficult because the bottom reality is the Arab states/leaders are beneath contempt

They were the ones who stopped a collective response In the OIC and they are the ones that want Hamas destroyed so they can carry on with their plans to enrich themselves

It's difficult for any state, Indonesia, Pakistan, Malaysia etc etc anyone to circumnavigate the middle east Arab states when those states in private act the way they do

It's disgraceful and the only thing we can do is plan to utilise the anger and outrage to create a worldwide movement



Pakistan for example has many many faults as a country and our politicians can be clowns, but when Pakistani strategic interests were threatened in Afghanistan both against the Soviet Union and USA/NATO Pakistan acted and ensured the Taliban won and the Soviet Union and USA left with their tails tucked between their legs

When you look at what the Egyptians and Jordanians are doing it's shocking how cowardly and pathetic they are

If Pakistan was in place of Jordan or Egypt, this would be over decades ago, because no way would our people tolerated this against the Palestinians

 

[Kyussis]

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[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

ok, but there are 2 billion Muslims,gaza is taking all the air time but West bank is under threat, Al Aqsa is being eyed up. My point really is that right now ignorance is not really an excuse for what Could happen beyond gaza.

Give Israel an excuse to break the vessel that contains all that outrage... other than that... I has been effectively contained. Muslims are conquered people, have been subjugated for past two centuries at least.

They're actively trying to mimic their master... without context or living the ordeal. Their fate sealed by optics alone...

Gaza fights for the liberation, not of Palestinians, the whole world!

 

[Falcon29]

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[r3alist]

It's disgraceful and the only thing we can do is plan to utilise the anger and outrage to create a worldwide movement

A plan to get angry is the only thing to do? A depressing notion, not do anything, just get mad.....sounds like Muslims might just be what their enemies have said they are.

It might be very worthwhile for people to read up on historical struggle and freedom movements from history. could be a thread idea.

 

[Meengla]

ok, but there are 2 billion Muslims,gaza is taking all the air time but West bank is under threat, Al Aqsa is being eyed up. My point really is that right now ignorance is not really an excuse for what Could happen beyond gaza.

Give Israel an excuse to break the vessel that contains all that outrage... other than that... I has been effectively contained.

Israelis will only go after the Muslim holy places in Jerusalem once they are sure there wouldn't be a huge backlash. And with globalization and loosening of religious-based world order, that day may eventually come but I don't think happening for the next several decades.

Also, while the destruction in Gaza is indeed a huge tragedy, I don't think the Gazans have lost at least yet. I think they are still being supplied weaponry from Egypt and thus the Philadelphia Corridor has become a very important flashpoint in this conflict. But I don't know to what extent Egypt is willing to go. I don't know when, if at all, the Lebanon and the Syrian fronts become truly active.

 

[Falcon29]

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[r3alist]

Give Israel an excuse to break the vessel that contains all that outrage... other than that... I has been effectively contained. Muslims are conquered people, have been subjugated for past two centuries at least.

They're actively trying to mimic their master... without context or living the ordeal. Their fate sealed by optics alone...

Gaza fights for the liberation, not of Palestinians, the whole world!

Just a random thought, but American police were allegedly trained by Israeli police to keep pressure on the neck, therefore that led to George Floyd. BLM support gaza.

The fate of gaza may well be the Canary in the coal mine for those seeking Justice all over the world.


Another angle to look into, if you can be bothered.

 

[hussain0216]

A plan to get angry is the only thing to do? A depressing notion, not do anything, just get mad.....sounds like Muslims might just be what their enemies have said they are.

It might be very worthwhile for people to read up on historical struggle and freedom movements from history. could be a thread idea.

Utilising anger to garner strength and motivation isn't a bad strategy

Israel has done enough to hunt it across multiple international bodies and organisations and anger is took we can utilise to motivate continued protests and boycott movements


The war isn't lost, that's because the war is ONGOING

..this is about POPULATION AND DEMOGRAPHICS

what the Israeli need is to get rid of the Palestinians population, and I don't mean 30,000 dead (that's not enough) they need millions gone.
so they are desperate to ETHNICALLY CLEANSE the population, and that's what all this has been about

if the they fail to remove the Palestinians population, then Israel LOSES


because eventually the PALESTINIANS population will continue to grow, because it's average age is only 19 and it's heading into a population dividend


this is not over, far from it and the PALESTINIANS hold major cards going forward

we just need to ensure the Jews can't ethnically cleanse them and the Arab states don't allow it

 

[Khansaheeb]

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[hussain0216]

Egypt shamelessly has accepted that Israel will attack Rafah

That's because if Hamas endures Israel can't claim any sort of victory and only has blackened it's own face with the slaughter and that has worldwide consequences for Jews and Israel

So they will attack Rafah, Egypt should have put it foot down and threatened Israel


But like cowards the Egyptians are creating a blocked off area, this is so the PALESTINIANs can't be expelled from Gaza, but get a safe zone outside of Gaza, from where they have been promised they can return to gaza from
So instead of acting like men, the Egyptians are acting like jackals

So a attack in Rafah will most likely go ahead unless international pressure gets too large, but unless the Egyptians grow a spine, it will definitely go ahead because the excuse will be used that a space has been found to protect the Palestinians

 

[r3alist]

Israelis will only go after the Muslim holy places in Jerusalem once they are sure there wouldn't be a huge backlash. And with globalization and loosening of religious-based world order, that day may eventually come but I don't think happening for the next several decades.

Have you seen in and around Al aqsa?They already are!
I hope you are still not deluding yourself that there are red lineS per se with the muslim world.

The gulf states have probably already given the green light.

Indeed some say they may be facilitating land purchases for......


This right wing Israel government wants to be the generation to restore the temple, it makes sense, it would in their eyes expiate their sins, it Is crucial.

It looks as if the muslim world would just get mad... a bit.

2 billion strong. Jerusalem and Al Aqsa.
No plan, but be angry.

 

[Falcon29]

who thinks that Israel just stop's here?There may well be a sort of acceptance around Gaza being allowed to be dealt with in the west, but there will no doubt be lobby who will want to use the USA cheat code further?
when will the west bank be resolved?
Al aqsa?
The point is no doubt Israel has a strategy, will the Islamic world just watch?

Absence is of a strategy by the Islamic world is worrying. Iran is not prepared for a war with Israel. Iran led-axis was taken by surprise and not prepared for this scenario. Iran takes defensive route of deterrence for its long term nuclear program. Saudi-led axis are subjugated to their masters and will just go along with them. Turkey is focused on Turkic peoples and balancing its relations with Europe/ME. All three major parties do not trust each other. Each will take advantage of power vacuum and try to come out of situation as strongest. So each will espouse different vision for the region. Which is more related to their national interests and not based upon a set of principles like how the West does with democracy and democratic values. Hence, they're more successful in projecting power and influence.

Muslims don't campaign on set of principles. Even if they claim otherwise. I don't buy that Saudi Arabia, Turkey, or Iran are operating on Islamic principles and want to advance them for the people of the region. They use Islam and don't actually believe in it. They use it to shoehorn their way into dominance of the region with them guiding affairs at the top. And don't know how to share power between each other without enforcing their beliefs/mindset onto others. You can not get anywhere like this.

 

[Falcon29]

2 billion strong. Jerusalem and Al Aqsa.
No plan, but be angry.

They will not even get angry. Israel could blow the Al-Aqsa mosque and blame Hamas. And Muslims likewise, out of weakness and lack of character, will blame Hamas and say Hamas got us in this situation. People just want to live trouble-free, but how do they think you get to the point of being able to live trouble-free? There's years of work/effort going into that and once those foundations are built, you have to maintain them and continue to develop them to adapt to changing realities.