AJK govt bans Joint Awami Action Committee, notification issued

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Jango said:
Well one thing is clear...Kashmir Banega Pakistan was just an empty slogan our elites used just so that in ki dukan chalti rahay.
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That is not true from the empty slogan - Pakistanis have a place in their heart for Kashmiris and their struggle overall.

But it is true from the elites saying it(and a thousand other slogans) as hollow because it was useful earlier(and will be more) for maintaining their control.

What is happening is Kashmir is just a repeat of what happened in Balochistan, in KP, in Karachi, Southern Punjab and Sindh .., and what happened in EP to an extent as well.

Simply because what people do recognize initially as elite abuse is easily hijacked to an ethnic narrative because that stokes more emotion in people of the subcontinent along with religion rather than some class rights - otherwise communism would have had a greater hold in these areas.

The military venn diagrams into the elite establishment - and then can bungle it all up.
Simplistic pigeonholes wont solve it nor will excuses for any particular player be it fauj or PTI or PPP or PML(N) politicians or bureaucrats here or in KP or anywhere.
 
Oscar said:
That is not true from the empty slogan - Pakistanis have a place in their heart for Kashmiris and their struggle overall.

But it is true from the elites saying it(and a thousand other slogans) as hollow because it was useful earlier(and will be more) for maintaining their control.

What is happening is Kashmir is just a repeat of what happened in Balochistan, in KP, in Karachi, Southern Punjab and Sindh .., and what happened in EP to an extent as well.

Simply because what people do recognize initially as elite abuse is easily hijacked to an ethnic narrative because that stokes more emotion in people of the subcontinent along with religion rather than some class rights - otherwise communism would have had a greater hold in these areas.

The military venn diagrams into the elite establishment - and then can bungle it all up.
Simplistic pigeonholes wont solve it nor will excuses for any particular player be it fauj or PTI or PPP or PML(N) politicians or bureaucrats here or in KP or anywhere.
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Agreed. And on the bold part...along with the reasons you enlisted, not having a proper political representation leads to such voids, which are then filled by those who are either compromised, or those who are inept and incompetent. Grassroots movements ain't always pretty, and they don't always have an Oxford PhD at their helm.

That is why political representation is important so you can steer and guide the masses and any agitation is kept contained and within the spheres of a political process.

Magr ham nay to hard state banna hai.

Senator Mushtaq was kidnapped on the way back from AJK. The guy has been through Gaza and Israel, he wouldn't think he's left that part of the world considering what's happening to him today.
 
Jango said:
Agreed. And on the bold part...along with the reasons you enlisted, not having a proper political representation leads to such voids, which are then filled by those who are either compromised, or those who are inept and incompetent. Grassroots movements ain't always pretty, and they don't always have an Oxford PhD at their helm.

That is why political representation is important so you can steer and guide the masses and any agitation is kept contained and within the spheres of a political process.

Magr ham nay to hard state banna hai.

Senator Mushtaq was kidnapped on the way back from AJK. The guy has been through Gaza and Israel, he wouldn't think he's left that part of the world considering what's happening to him today.
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To be as uncouthly honest as I can
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What you see here is the problem even if it is 15 people with 12 non Kashmiris - 1 is Adil Baja and 2 3rd generation from Mirpuris.

What the Phudus jindus (I wont even humor the Sher aya te Jiyale ki pithi mein paya because they are unworthy to be considered having aj iota of Pakistani interest at heart nor fully brainwashed ayi ayi tatti ayi because they are only hopping on trains since it suits their cult ideals today) don’t understand in their ingrained egos(which I tried to politely address in the other article) is that this catches on like wildfire because you didn’t have the strategic nor even tactical acumen to address it.

Why? Because bc incompetence wardi mein bharti hai when you choose your brown noser buddies and favorites instead of the competent officer who tells “Sir ham chud jayienge”(even politely).

All your bloody Rafale shootdowns or white flags from Indian posts on border or favorite this or that can go to hell when REGARDLESS of TRUTH and ACCURACY the same Kashmiris will shoot you from the back when India(who is singing Dena wala jab bhi deta - deta Katwa phaar ke) is creating the pretext it needs for its next open warfare move.

Saying “This is a government matter” whom you dragged out of the mud on Form 47s because the earlier experiment ran rabid is just another long line of mistakes upon mistakes…..which this pauji part of the elite establishment venn diagram is egged on by some or all elements of the establishment to solve(create)a problem but because its always a combination of tactical and instant gratification ideals(and ironically no one seems to remember the adage of “no plan survives contact…”), do one step forward and three steps back to fix it(create five more problems) - then realize you were screwed bu your “friends” in the venn diagram and try to quash out problems and create more and more but never understanding that YOU are the bloody problem because you are fighting your own inflexibility and ego that stems from being part of the same crop of cultural goulash which you think you can tame because you have guns —-

We have seen the enemy and they are us
 
ایک ذہنی و جنسی 5 سٹار مریض اپنی پسندیدہ عورت کی ناجائز حکومت کو طول دینے کیلیئے پورے ملک میں بیگناہ شہریوں کا خون بہا رہا ہے
 
As I predicted. Boys made a total mess of it. Saw some establishment voices trying to subtly deflect the blame from Army onto PMLN (as if those poor sods have much say in this).

If we keep going at this rate, soon units of the army will have to decide amongst each other ke kon ghadaar hay aur kon Mohib ul Watan.
 
The goons of JKLF in Rawalakot were calling Sardar Abdul Qayum Khan and Sardar Ibrahim Khan ghaddar yesterday and accusing those well recognized and widely respected leaders of pushing them into Pakistan's ghulami. To be honest, these goons make up only a fraction of total population of the state of J&K. So, they and their concerns and claims have no credibility whatsoever.

While Indians have been using the JKLF goons for decades now for spying and creating wedge between different groups of freedom fighters in Indian Occupied J&K, the overwhelming majority of the people of even Indian occupied J&K have been fighting against Indian occupation with the sole purpose of joining Pakistan. These JKLF goons have never participated in the actual jihad against the Indian occupation forces. Rather they have always played in the hands of Indian agencies against the cause of jihad.

Now by talking against the Karachi agreement, these traitors are disgracing the shuhada (over a hundred thousand in number) and their sacred sacrifice offered only for joining Pakistan. The people of Indian occupied J&K will never allow these goons of JKLF to discredit the sacrifices by their dear ones for getting freedom from illegal Indian occupation and joining Pakistan.

These ghaddars of Kashmir jihad are once again disgracefully trying to please their masters in Indian RAW and they will certainly fail as ever in creating a wedge between the patriotic people of J&K and Pakistan. The shuhada in Indian occupied J&K bravely fought the Indian occupying forces, got bullets on their chests, and preferred to be buried enclosed in Pakistan's national flag. These coward goons of JKLF are targeting Pakistani security forces and certainly deserve getting targeted with bullets in their assh.

BTW, their is not much difference of psyche between these worthless goons of JKLF and their master the Hindutva terrorists of BJP. Indians feel no shame while disowning their nation's father Nehru (for taking the Kashmir dispute to the UN) and these ghaddars of JKLF feel no shame in disowning the internationally recognized Kashmiri leadership. Shame on them.
 
40 people killed?? By who?

Since early June, nearly 40 people have been killed. Authorities have imposed an unofficial state of emergency by suspending mobile and internet services across most of the territory.

www.aljazeera.com

Pakistan-administered Kashmir opens polls in violence-wracked election

First of three rounds of voting held after weeks of protests during which dozens of people were killed.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
 
@gamaji

Indians feel no shame while disowning their nation's father Nehru

A small correction is in order. Chicha Nehru is India's Uncle, not father. That distinction belongs to Gandhiji (for the time being)

Regards
 
Oscar said:
Simply because what people do recognize initially as elite abuse is easily hijacked to an ethnic narrative because that stokes more emotion in people of the subcontinent along with religion rather than some class rights - otherwise communism would have had a greater hold in these areas.
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This is exactly what i've been trying to highlight. PTI overseas clown love to inflame ethnic tensions. Post 2022 things went in full retard. They specifically make it an ethnic issue. heck even in KP they made military operations an ethnic issue.

Good strategy to undermine the writ of the state, but ultimately ruling over ashes kind of policy.
 
Waterboy said:
This is exactly what i've been trying to highlight. PTI overseas clown love to inflame ethnic tensions. Post 2022 things went in full retard. They specifically make it an ethnic issue. heck even in KP they made military operations an ethnic issue.

Good strategy to undermine the writ of the state, but ultimately ruling over ashes kind of policy.
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It doesnt matter to cultists not matter what colors they wear - the original idea of PTI IK killed himself with his U turns and compromises but that doesnt mean the establishment's own ego isnt destroying things with these other idiots just helping the end along.

Part of it has to do with this obsession with immortality projects for all of these personalities who want their mausoleums in their lifetimes regardless of how much it destroys Pakistan and tens of millions of Pakistani lives.

Start with Ayub, Bhutto and go all the way to Bajwa, IK and FM ji.

Say what you want but that saying rumored to Zardari is right....

Bhutto is all about a family business living off his name -
So is Nawaz with Jati Umra palace - and that is what will happen to IK.
All now looking for dynasties -
Same goes for current 5 star sahib and all of his cabal building legacies in their own tiny forgettable origin stories.

Whither Pakistan or Kashmir or otherwise.
Remember Musharraf? Launched Kargil so he could be remembered as some legend... regardless of overall long term strategy

In ten years people wont - probably a stray dog will go lie on his grave and nobody to shoo it away.

But in that time, in that period - its all about immortality projects -
 
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