AJK govt bans Joint Awami Action Committee, notification issued

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Well one thing is clear...Kashmir Banega Pakistan was just an empty slogan our elites used just so that in ki dukan chalti rahay.

 

[Oscar]

Well one thing is clear...Kashmir Banega Pakistan was just an empty slogan our elites used just so that in ki dukan chalti rahay.

That is not true from the empty slogan - Pakistanis have a place in their heart for Kashmiris and their struggle overall.

But it is true from the elites saying it(and a thousand other slogans) as hollow because it was useful earlier(and will be more) for maintaining their control.

What is happening is Kashmir is just a repeat of what happened in Balochistan, in KP, in Karachi, Southern Punjab and Sindh .., and what happened in EP to an extent as well.

Simply because what people do recognize initially as elite abuse is easily hijacked to an ethnic narrative because that stokes more emotion in people of the subcontinent along with religion rather than some class rights - otherwise communism would have had a greater hold in these areas.

The military venn diagrams into the elite establishment - and then can bungle it all up.
Simplistic pigeonholes wont solve it nor will excuses for any particular player be it fauj or PTI or PPP or PML(N) politicians or bureaucrats here or in KP or anywhere.

 

[Jango]

That is not true from the empty slogan - Pakistanis have a place in their heart for Kashmiris and their struggle overall.

But it is true from the elites saying it(and a thousand other slogans) as hollow because it was useful earlier(and will be more) for maintaining their control.

What is happening is Kashmir is just a repeat of what happened in Balochistan, in KP, in Karachi, Southern Punjab and Sindh .., and what happened in EP to an extent as well.

Simply because what people do recognize initially as elite abuse is easily hijacked to an ethnic narrative because that stokes more emotion in people of the subcontinent along with religion rather than some class rights - otherwise communism would have had a greater hold in these areas.

The military venn diagrams into the elite establishment - and then can bungle it all up.
Simplistic pigeonholes wont solve it nor will excuses for any particular player be it fauj or PTI or PPP or PML(N) politicians or bureaucrats here or in KP or anywhere.

Agreed. And on the bold part...along with the reasons you enlisted, not having a proper political representation leads to such voids, which are then filled by those who are either compromised, or those who are inept and incompetent. Grassroots movements ain't always pretty, and they don't always have an Oxford PhD at their helm.

That is why political representation is important so you can steer and guide the masses and any agitation is kept contained and within the spheres of a political process.

Magr ham nay to hard state banna hai.

Senator Mushtaq was kidnapped on the way back from AJK. The guy has been through Gaza and Israel, he wouldn't think he's left that part of the world considering what's happening to him today.

 

[iron shrapnel]

Well one thing is clear...Kashmir Banega Pakistan was just an empty slogan our elites used just so that in ki dukan chalti rahay.

Sardar Aman aur Mehran elite hain ?

 

[Oscar]

Agreed. And on the bold part...along with the reasons you enlisted, not having a proper political representation leads to such voids, which are then filled by those who are either compromised, or those who are inept and incompetent. Grassroots movements ain't always pretty, and they don't always have an Oxford PhD at their helm.

That is why political representation is important so you can steer and guide the masses and any agitation is kept contained and within the spheres of a political process.

Magr ham nay to hard state banna hai.

Senator Mushtaq was kidnapped on the way back from AJK. The guy has been through Gaza and Israel, he wouldn't think he's left that part of the world considering what's happening to him today.

To be as uncouthly honest as I can

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What you see here is the problem even if it is 15 people with 12 non Kashmiris - 1 is Adil Baja and 2 3rd generation from Mirpuris.

What the Phudus jindus (I wont even humor the Sher aya te Jiyale ki pithi mein paya because they are unworthy to be considered having aj iota of Pakistani interest at heart nor fully brainwashed ayi ayi tatti ayi because they are only hopping on trains since it suits their cult ideals today) don’t understand in their ingrained egos(which I tried to politely address in the other article) is that this catches on like wildfire because you didn’t have the strategic nor even tactical acumen to address it.

Why? Because bc incompetence wardi mein bharti hai when you choose your brown noser buddies and favorites instead of the competent officer who tells “Sir ham chud jayienge”(even politely).

All your bloody Rafale shootdowns or white flags from Indian posts on border or favorite this or that can go to hell when REGARDLESS of TRUTH and ACCURACY the same Kashmiris will shoot you from the back when India(who is singing Dena wala jab bhi deta - deta Katwa phaar ke) is creating the pretext it needs for its next open warfare move.

Saying “This is a government matter” whom you dragged out of the mud on Form 47s because the earlier experiment ran rabid is just another long line of mistakes upon mistakes…..which this pauji part of the elite establishment venn diagram is egged on by some or all elements of the establishment to solve(create)a problem but because its always a combination of tactical and instant gratification ideals(and ironically no one seems to remember the adage of “no plan survives contact…”), do one step forward and three steps back to fix it(create five more problems) - then realize you were screwed bu your “friends” in the venn diagram and try to quash out problems and create more and more but never understanding that YOU are the bloody problem because you are fighting your own inflexibility and ego that stems from being part of the same crop of cultural goulash which you think you can tame because you have guns —-

We have seen the enemy and they are us