Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

RafaleSlayer said:
Give credit where its due, Abhi Nanadan proved to be more manly than the whole IAF, he never claimed an F16 kill. I am 100% sure he accepted that award on a gun point by BJP.
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Nah he just gonna turn Bakshi. Some say he is related to some big shot in India and hence he was sent back by Pakistani government who did not want to upset the Brahman caste.
 
El Sidd said:
Nah he just gonna turn Bakshi. Some say he is related to some big shot in India and hence he was sent back by Pakistani government who did not want to upset the Brahman caste.
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We returned him on US government's request to cool things down. For us an indian is an indian, no matter what cast.
 
RafaleSlayer said:
We returned him on US government's request to cool things down. For us an indian is an indian, no matter what cast.
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There's no accountability anyhow so government just do whatever they feel like or get told to do so by US. Bunch of traitors to the cause.
 
El Sidd said:
There's no accountability anyhow so government just do whatever they feel like or get told to do so by US. Bunch of traitors to the cause.
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That's top level diplomacy, we showed the Indians and the world, that we can arse spank so called shupa powa India in broad daylight on our terms as we please and then show our greatness by returning a fallen comrade, keeping him would not have added any more credibility to our resolve, fighting spirit and capability., there is no room for false bravado and false ego in top level diplomacy. See how India is being trampled because of their delusional power ride, false ego and misplace bravado. They have become a joke on the internal stage.
 
RafaleSlayer said:
That's top level diplomacy, we showed the Indians and the world, that we can arse spank so called shupa powa India in broad daylight on our terms as we please and then show our greatness by returning a fallen comrade, keeping him would not have added any more credibility to our resolve, fighting spirit and capability., there is no room for false bravado and false ego in top level diplomacy. See how India is being trampled because of their delusional power ride, false ego and misplace bravado. They have become a joke on the internal stage.
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Congrats I guess. I won't be surprised if Pakistani government handed back Shivangi this time as well.

People stopped talking about IWT as well. People have become desensitized to mosques and schools being bombed but online patriotism is at its historic high.

It's not all treasures at the end of the rainbow. We are muddling through some pretty dirty waters.
 
El Sidd said:
Congrats I guess. I won't be surprised if Pakistani government handed back Shivangi this time as well.

People stopped talking about IWT as well. People have become desensitized to mosques and schools being bombed but online patriotism is at its historic high.

It's not all treasures at the end of the rainbow. We are muddling through some pretty dirty waters.
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they cant build infrastructure to divert water its almost impossible except chenab but that would mean 1 nuke in delhi 1 in mumbai 1 in kolkata
 
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In the 35-minute conversation, Modi told Trump that the two nations directly discussed a ceasefire upon Pakistan’s request following a bombardment by India. Modi said India “does not and will never accept mediation,” according to an Indian readout, adding that Trump “listened carefully.”

Modi felt like he needed to set the record straight in the call after his aides discovered that Trump planned to host a lunch the following day at the White House for Pakistani Army Chief Asim Munir, according to officials in New Delhi familiar with the matter, who requested anonymity to speak about confidential discussions.

While India had no problem if Trump met Pakistan’s civilian leaders, hosting Munir was seen as giving legitimacy to a military that Modi’s government accuses of supporting militant groups, they said. Wary that Trump would look to orchestrate a meeting between Munir and Modi, the Indian leader turned down an invitation to stop by the White House on the way back from Canada, they said, adding that he was also committed to visiting Croatia.

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It appears Russia isn't the only problem behind Trump's attacks on India. Moreover, if our FM sahb actually turned out to be the reason for this sourness in relationship. I'd say -- well done 😁

@Vkdindian1
 
NationalistPKDude132 said:
they cant build infrastructure to divert water its almost impossible except chenab but that would mean 1 nuke in delhi 1 in mumbai 1 in kolkata
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Mate here we are discussing we cannot hold on to POWs due foreign intervention and you are talking about nuclear attacks on population centres.
 
RafaleSlayer said:
Not sure about 2025, their DGMO was dodgy in the press briefs and dishonest when he knowingly stated the lie that they definitely shot down Pakistani jets.

In 2019, it was a total shitshow on their side, that BS Dhanoa was shamelessly lying on tv programs and even that famous program, they continued to lie at the highest level of their military establishment, where Christine Fair mopped the floor with them.
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They pretty much got away with it in 2019. In the absence of definitive proof of the Su30, world didn’t give too much importance to old Mig 21 & it didn’t really effect India’s aspirations of being accepted as a Supa Powa BUT 2025 was totally different. No respectable military power goes to bomb a neighbour a fraction of their size / budget that they dismissed as irrelevant & end up losing at least 5 of their top jets in their own airspace against zero losses for the little neighbour. The optics are terrible and the World took due notice. And this Despite providing the best they had to India as well as Nuclear deal etc, economic shots, and sanctioning that little neighbour to within an inch of its life (can’t even buy a US engine). Will any American intelligence official in its right mind still think India is a good bet against China when they get battered by comparatively pathetic little Pakistan? Modi & his cronies have used the same playbook as 2019 for damage limitation. Lie, cheat, give out medals for imaginary achievements etc and that is still effective to a large degree within India simply because those lies are what the vast majority of Indians desperately want to believe. But beyond Indian’s the damage is done & nobody is buying this BS. The now lack of apparent utility of India is maybe why its special treatment & passes like being allowed to buy cheap Russian oil have abruptly been revoked.
 
RafaleSlayer said:
But the same government awarded veer chakra to Abhi Nandan to sooth the tiny egos of their hindutwa fanboys, attributing an F16 kill to him, while he himself (all respect to him for being a professional and not claiming a false kill) never claimed any kill. You see lying never earns you any respect and every statement you make goes against you.
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Not to mention that the downed Mig 21 still had all its missiles with the wreck as confirmed by AFM but little details like that don’t matter to Modi when he’s busy trying to cover his 52 inch backside🤣
 
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