PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion

[Metal 0-1]

Tough Crowd, not gonna lie

 

[Metal 0-1]

Well enough of this let's talk about J-10. When do you think next batch of J-10C will be coming? It's a totally serious question.

 

[Raja Porus]

No.15 Sqn with 04 SJs

 

[Ak01]

2. From a purely commercial perspective, I think if Pakistan is willing to pay cash, CAC would be very happy with the deal. However, if it is a loan deal, they are unlikely to agree. So, it depends on whether Pakistan has sufficient cash. ------ CAC is in dire need of cash right now.

this makes no sense btw...

whether its a loan or cash doesnt make a difference to the seller. The national or private banks will bankroll the loan, the cash goes to the vendor either way...

 

[Trailer23]

No.15 Sqn with 04 SJs

You're back...

...after a long haul.

 

[ThrustVector998]

No.15 Sqn with 04 SJs

Any names/identities made public yet?

 

[White Privilege]

No.15 Sqn with 04 SJs

Should have been a few more and a lot of 'bars', wah re restraint.....

 

[MH.Yang]

Is there any PL-16 in development? Never heard of this weapon? Only PL-17 have in the plaaf after PL 15 or PL-21 I have heard that it was in development since 2008 and will be in same class of like METEOR

So I kindly request you to give the source/links on PL-16 sir thanks

Is there any PL-16 in development? Never heard of this weapon? Only PL-17 have in the plaaf after PL 15 or PL-21 I have heard that it was in development since 2008 and will be in same class of like METEOR

So I kindly request you to give the source/links on PL-16 sir thanks

You can't demand official sources for Chinese weapons data. It's all classified and has no legitimate source.

However, there were reports this year that the PL-16 has entered service with the Chinese Air Force. It's only 3.8 meters long, 180/203mm in diameter, and features foldable tail fins. It uses new GAP/HMX high-energy propellants, achieving a specific charge of 243.5 meters. Its effective range is 300+km. It's equipped with a Ku-band AESA, supports a two-way data link and Beidou satellite corrections, boasts strong anti-jam capabilities, and is capable of a LOAL mode.

There is no news about the PL-17 (range 400+km) and PL-21 (range 1000+km), which are the next generation of missiles.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

You can't demand official sources for Chinese weapons data. It's all classified and has no legitimate source.

However, there were reports this year that the PL-16 has entered service with the Chinese Air Force. It's only 3.8 meters long, 180/203mm in diameter, and features foldable tail fins. It uses new GAP/HMX high-energy propellants, achieving a specific charge of 243.5 meters. Its effective range is 300+km. It's equipped with a Ku-band AESA, supports a two-way data link and Beidou satellite corrections, boasts strong anti-jam capabilities, and is capable of a LOAL mode.

There is no news about the PL-17 (range 400+km) and PL-21 (range 1000+km), which are the next generation of missiles.

please provide Source/links?

 

[MH.Yang]

please provide Source/links?

<Army Recognition> had a report about the PL-16 at the end of July this year, you can look it up. The rest of the reports mostly come from Chinese websites and Chinese forums.

 

[Raja Porus]

You're back...

...after a long haul.

Yes sir... This forum is getting a bit lively too but still not like the old one

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

<Army Recognition> had a report about the PL-16 at the end of July this year, you can look it up. The rest of the reports mostly come from Chinese websites and Chinese forums.


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Is this PL-21 rebranded as PL-16 ? and why China needs 2 same kind of BVRAAM with similar mission profile and range (PL-16 and PL-17)?

 

[ThoroughPro]

<Army Recognition> had a report about the PL-16 at the end of July this year, you can look it up. The rest of the reports mostly come from Chinese websites and Chinese forums.


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Didn't may 6/7 surprise made it evidently clear that no manufacturer/operator would ever reveal the true range/capabilities of their weapon system? Indians learned it the hard way and paid a heavy price for believing the information/data on the internet

 

[MH.Yang]

Is this PL-21 rebranded as PL-16 ? and why China needs 2 same kind of BVRAAM with similar mission profile and range (PL-16 and PL-17)?

No. The PL-16 and PL-15 belong to the same generation of missiles, it is more suitable for the J-20. The PL-17 and PL-21 are the next generation of missiles.

The PL-16 has already entered service, while the PL-17/21 still have a long way to go.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

No. The PL-16 and PL-15 belong to the same generation of missiles, it is more suitable for the J-20. The PL-17 and PL-21 are the next generation of missiles.

The PL-16 has already entered service, while the PL-17/21 still have a long way to go.

where show me any pics of PLAAF/PLAN jets carryying PL-16? most probably PL-16 is still in development