Pakistan Missiles - Updates, News & Discussion

[abdulbarijan]

- Good development, from a managerial point of view, introducing specialization especially when it comes to something like this is the way to go. Even the experts on the Indian side agree that a resumption right away would result in exchange of missiles once again.

- While many on the Indian side, or even the Pakistani side may question this development as not that significant, the reality is -- this indicates that the aim is to go for a systematic approach. A system approach is always better than relying on good individual components the latest example being the losses of rafales to the PAF.

- What once was the last resort, thanks to Modi is going to be the norm pretty soon. While we're a tad bit late to the party, probably round the time where that "error launch" of the brahmos took place, should've been our wakeup call, we should've been proactive rather than reactive, but better late than never.

- The current approach seems to be to basically use the already developed missiles and optimize for conventional role, which does indicate a few new developments quite soon. Whatever, the case maybe -- but its a massive step in the right direction!

 

[Salza]

technically Pakistan does have the ability to produce hypersonic missile. Like, even tomorrow they could. The ability is there. Just rename one of the existing missiles to hypersonic and there we go. View attachment 140683

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Langar Biriyani- the name, not langar ki biriyani.

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[VectorZero]

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looks like Kamikaze drone

 

[falcon34]

Even if we spill a few beans, some folks here will still cry “proof, proof.” Anyway… @NA71 congrats, it’s finally official. More good news soon, It’s time for Pakistan’s rise May was a wake up call for all of us, and now nothing can stop us. @falcon34

Bro go ahead screw nay sayers
Any timelines regarding test or my theory is write that existing Shaheen series will be or has been modified for conventional strike roles?.

 

[Salza]

looks like Kamikaze drone

Clearly a model of Hypersonic glide missile. Induction is very near! Or already inducted. Announcement of new rocket command today. So things are getting aligned.

 

[falcon34]

@Oscar we need a new thread all these F4 threads and others need to be merged also that MLRS thread needs to be merged under PA rocket force command.

 

[Bilal]

looks like Kamikaze drone

Yes, looks like the ATLS kamikaze drone.

 

[Ak01]

Clearly a model of Hypersonic glide missile. Induction is very near! Or already inducted. Announcement of new rocket command today. So things are getting aligned.

a hgv with an air intake?

 

[Ak01]

Yes, looks like the ATLS kamikaze drone.

nah its not that

 

[Bilal]

Clearly a model of Hypersonic glide missile. Induction is very near! Or already inducted. Announcement of new rocket command today. So things are getting aligned.

Look at the wings and the intake on top.

 

[Liquidator]

looks like Kamikaze drone

On the next round, normal everyday Indians from Punjab to Bengal need to see metal objects that go boom with Pakistani flags in the sky.

War must be imposed on them.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

The Ukrainians tried relying on civilian manpower and they've been losing land ever since. Their land numbers were around 130,000 men before the war, many died and were injured to needed replacing but with what? They had 900,000 reserves, but only fraction could be trained at one time and then be ready for the front. This meant time and resources, both of which they did not have and the Russians continued to advance, as they simply could replace their lost men with similar experienced professionals. That's why these national mobilisations and drafts are rubbish especially when the battlefield is fluid and the space between opposing forces is so small, case on point Pakistan v India.

Also do you want untrained men with guns in their hands?
There's a famous saying that people should know;

“The most dangerous thing other than the enemy is an untrained friendly with a gun.”


I'll tag in ex services and serviceman on that they think.

@Panzerkiel
@Irfan Baloch

Well, I don't disagree to everything you wrote. But Ukraine vs Russia there was no comparison with us. As first Russia makes everything in-house and has virtually unlimited supply of oil. It can wage war continuously. Which india/Pak cannot do.

Secondly, Ukraine had no airforce, no nuclear weapons, no tactical nukes (Nasr missiles kinda solutions ), Any successful attempt to invade large part of Pakistan will see use of tactical nukes. Even before that, any invasion is impossible without attaining air superiority. Ukraine really had nothing in the air to bomb invading army. Secondly China factor is there too. We are only discussing a worst case scenario, when everything has failed. If enemy really has invaded a big portion and dug in, then even large numbers at our side won't make any difference as enemy already has established defensive positions. Key is to stop enemy incursion in the first place. Even then I'd say that 450,000 modernized & better trained army can better hold of and withstand and has better chances overall. You get faster deployment, better weapon systems as a trade off. In defensive position you can hold off with much less numbers provided you have air support and other modern stuff.

Modernization is difficult when majority of budget goes to personal costs. Best approach is finding a perfect balance. That adequate numbers where modernization / training efforts are not hampered. It could be the same number which we have right now or could be 500K. Iraq had a one million strong army but it collapsed in days during first gulf war. Because from modernization point of view they were way too behind then US led coalition. I am not comparing our scenario with that one but just making a point that you lose when focus is on numbers and less on technology. In 21st century, Focus must be at technology first and then numbers. AI, drones and stuff will further emphasize on this pattern in days and years to come.

In the end, I'd love to have a balanced sized military in which there's a priority to modernization. If we can do all modernization that is required in modern warfare without cutting numbers then great.

 

[the vicious kind]

Pakistan already possesses an air-launched supersonic missile. As for hypersonic capabilities, their development seems like a natural progression. However, this is an entirely different ballgame. Achieving true hypersonic terminal speeds requires a highly powerful missile system, along with the design of new avionics interfaces and advanced mid-course/terminal guidance logic, potentially incorporating a seeker or datalink. On top of that comes the challenge of thermal protection for both the missile and its glide vehicle. This is just for the BM based HGVs, Air breathing Scramjets are a even harder to pull off.

These are not incremental upgrades like Shaheen 2 to Shaheen 3; Hypersonic Missle tech requires a generational leap in capability, one that has taken China, Russia, and the United States over a decade to master.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Even if we spill a few beans, some folks here will still cry “proof, proof.” Anyway… @NA71 congrats, it’s finally official. More good news soon, It’s time for Pakistan’s rise May was a wake up call for all of us, and now nothing can stop us. @falcon34

Lol can you please explain me how Pakistan will develop SCRAMJET engines for hypersonic missile? USA/Russia/ China are researched decades to develop hypersonic missile and somehow inducted them recently, without foreign help Pakistan can't do anything to develop hypersonic missile and especially to develop SCRAMJET engines

 

[Starlord]

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This look like a new type of missile, I don't think this is a drone.