Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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ShapurII
Trusted Member
Funnily enough, Greater Israel does not include territories of modern-day Iran.
I'd rather be neighbors with the genocidal, child-killing Jews than Arabs who have betrayed Iran since we started supporting them.
As we say in Persian: "دشمن دانا به از نادان دوست".
Hopefully, the regime moves in the direction of peace with Israel. The regime under Rafsanjani was far more moderate in the way it dealt with Israel than the regime under Khamenei.
ShapurII
Trusted Member
The regime was never under the leadership of Rafsanjani.
The issue is not only Israel. The issue is that the system is corrupt and inefficient.
Even their commitment to their ideology is nonsense. It's only a facade for their propaganda machine.
North Korea is committed to their ideology for real, and even though they are in the worst possible shape economically due to many factors, militarily they have done everything to ensure their existence. However, one cannot claim the same thing about the Iranian leadership.
The ruling system of Iran are so corrupt that they are hurting the country more than Israel and the US.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
I wouldn't be quick to blame the ruling system. What is killing Iran is the subsidy system. When electricity and water are artificially kept cheap of course people will waste it and of course we will run into shortages in the future. Rouhani was implementing the subsidy reform plan ahmadinejad planned but that was cut short by sanctions. Khamenei will certainly make peace with the west out of the desire for self preservation. Currently the hardliners are losing influence in Iran. If someone like ali larijani is in the SNSC then the hardliners have truly lost the ball.
kastor ville
Registered Member
No fking peace with child killers, Talmud thumping, land stealers.....not now, not ever. The world will come around to our way of thinking, it's already happening. There is no app to erase millions of posts, and pictures of war crimes....it will live on for at least the remainder of our lives. Those Israeli knuckleheads are no better than us, we're both fuckups. Meanwhile, the Arabs, Turks and everything in between is enjoying economic growth and prosperity, 2 countries are on the brink of economic collapse, Israel and Iran........a match made in hell, because of idiotic leadership in both of them.
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kastor ville
Registered Member
Lol....truth. Oh my God, what a waste, I feel sorry for the youth of Iran. I wish them well, I wish I could help, I can't even contribute financially to my people/causes due to sanctions.
ShapurII
Trusted Member
Ali Larijani used to be a hardliner. He was the head of the IRIB. The IRIB as the propaganda machine of the system is an organization that is not offered to just anybody. He's one of the most trusted people in Khamenei's circle. Sure, he's a reformist now, but he has close ties with Khamenei and his family. His brother used to be the Head of the Tehran University of Medical Sciences. His other brother was the head of the judiciary system. His other brother is the top-strategist of the system on the level of people like Velayati and he founded the Institute for Research in Fundamental Sciences, a key school in theoretical physics and mathematics in Iran. So, it's way more complicated than what you think.
The subsidy system is in place for the people in the system to steal our wealth. We're smuggling fuel to neighboring countries. One liter of gasoline in Iran is about 2-3 cents. In most of our neighboring countries, it's well above $1 per liter, or sometimes even $1.5 per liter. Tens of millions of liters of fuel are smuggled monthly. Who do you think can do that without getting arrested? Obviously, normal citizens cannot be behind this scale of smuggling.
They hated Ahmadinejad because he wanted to stop this free wealth-generating system for these people.
PakAl
Elite Member
Iran has no answer to economic and military sanctions, despite what the government may say, reality is Iran is struggling with the isolation and it's effecting it's economy and military. This is why despite being attacked by Israel and then the Usa, Iran still has to go back to the negotiation table. If only BRICS and SCO were equal to EU Usa Nato Quad GCC, then Iran can act tough. Iran will start negotiations but they must also request full removal of economy and military sanctions in return.
We know exactly what Israel Usa and GCC want, they want Iran to be like Saddam Iraq, Libya and Syria, to completely remove its military technology, then remove regime. Gaddafi, Assad, Saddam were no threat to world security, all weak nations but we're invaded, 10,000s killed, change of regimes. Any anti imperialist and anti zionist regimes will never be acceptable to Israel and it's allies.
Iran needs to continue negotiate but also make it clear any new attack will be met with full force, and also request sanctions must be removed, this will lead to stalemate and hopefully if iran can survive a few more decades, maybe we will see a true multi polar world, a world where. Nations can survive sanctions and invasions by the west.
tsunset
The Legend
I was excited to see Channel 14 building being struck with journalists killed but it never happened for unknown reasons
I'm still hoping that Iran will target it during the next rounds
I hope Iran will build underground complexes near Pakistan
I'm still hoping that Iran will target it during the next rounds
I hope Iran will build underground complexes near Pakistan
BigMela2onin
Registered Member
You guys still don't realize that whites don't want peace with us? It's not a matter of us wanting anything. They will subjugate Iran or destroy it, they only respect and make deals with what they can't destroy. You can't negotiate your way out of the situation we've been put in.
ShapurII
Trusted Member
How can you have demands when you are losing? It makes no sense.
It's pretty much like what Zelensky thinks he could achieve.
You want to make demands? You'd better be able to impose your conditions, otherwise you'll have to concede.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
here we go again with the hubris that can age like milk
And when Israel bombs Iran's industrial infrastructure and we are unable to defend against attacks due to having no air defense is this what you are going to tell Iranians who longer can buy new cars or afford food because fertilizer facilities were destroyed?
