8 Pakistan Air Force Officers Awarded Sitara =e-Jurat Medals

airhead said:
What you are saying about PAFs claim on su30 in 2019 is exactly the same as what Indians claimed on F16. Infact they showed actual radar signatures in detailed press conference by one of their avm. So I don’t buy this bullshit that somehow our claim is more credible than Indian claim simply because we got a missile off the rack. The radar signature is not a kill confirmation so not sure where this reaction is coming from. Just accept the fact that both kills were bogus and move on
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That radar picture was created on MS paint. Even i can do that.
 
ThoroughPro said:
I am 100 certain Airhead is an Indian masquerading as a Pakistani
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You guys are childish morons…if anyone criticizes their military makes them switch sides ? lol ..very sound logic . Ok man you got me . I am Indian !!! Shaking my head and speaking like harish bakshi from The Party
 
side-winder said:
You are just giving away your real ID dude. Stop it.

For an instance even if you take those two pictures as valid. Do you know you can manually add and delete the tracks on C2 console? Those two images don't prove shit. A live recording of actual moving tracks showing a missile launch towards target and subsequent vanishing of track could perhaps give some substance to IAF's claim.

However, none of it matters since plenty of counter proof already exists including all four unfired missiles and US count of F16s.

Anyone who has even a remote link with PAF knows exactly that F16 claim was a total bullshit story that was made up for public consumption. Su30s case is totally different.

Now stop it. You don't make any sense at all. And certainly you don't know shit about PAF.



What even? Are you for real? 😂
It certainly makes it more credible than theirs whereby the missile wasn't even let off the rail - while our AMRAAM was found within hours and live telecasted all over the media. What it did hit or didn't hit is a matter of dispute. While on the other side - you don't even reach this far in debate.

Stop being cool. You don't look cool with these childish arguments.
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Fact remains ..su30 remains unconfirmed ..medals are not given for unconfirmed kills. As 2025!has shown you cannot hide a wreckage in this day and age..it will show up on social media. The fact that 2019 su30 wreckage did not show up further puts doubts into this claim ..guys let’s move the eff on
 
airhead said:
Fact remains ..su30 remains unconfirmed ..medals are not given for unconfirmed kills. As 2025!has shown you cannot hide a wreckage in this day and age..it will show up on social media. The fact that 2019 su30 wreckage did not show up further puts doubts into this claim ..guys let’s move the eff on
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Wreckage by locals will be filmed or photographed if the aircraft crashes near a built up area not when it comes down in some barren jungle or crashes inside a base. The first breaking news by Indian media on 27.2.2019 was that an SU-30 chased by an F-16 has been shot down later the news was removed .
Later there were people giving statements to Indian media that they witnessed an aircraft crashing inside India in an are now secured by Indian military, the shooting down of Indian chopper is another tell tale sign, furthermore with over 250 SU-30 in inventory, why was Modi crying out for Rafales.
This was the Indian TV report before it was retracted .

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There are two thought why people name their children Muhammad


1- Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) did not had a son of his own , so as his Ummah we carry on the name of Prophet along our names

2- People with name Muhammad may be blessed in afterlife (of course Allah Decides who is forgiven in end)
  • His enemies in days of Jihalat , often ridiculed him that he has no son to carry his family name forward
  • I think in Quran , the Suara "Al Kawsar" was revealed a garden in paradise
    • Indeed, We have granted you ˹O Prophet˺ abundant goodness
    • So pray and sacrifice to your Lord ˹alone˺.
    • Only the one who hates you is truly cut off ˹from any goodness˺


It is in theory possible to use Muhammad as middle name as well instead of first name.

However in end there is nothing wrong in using the name Muhammad

In days when Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) was alive , people used to do every thing in their power , to change their daily lives as him , to copy him , his action.


We live in a Different times in 2025 , where even the name Muhammad can feel like a Burdan


While no Doctrine exist to specifically name children Muhammad but it is a very popular name in Muslim Countries
 
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Tejas Spokesman said:
I remember Many Pakistanis were expecting PAF will release some "proof" on Aug 14th.
But in reality nothing of that sort happened.
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Oh how cute of you to conveniently to pop up like a daisy... & talk about proof.

I'll get to the 'proof' part in a moment. Lets talk about what some fellow members were hoping for & perhaps got a bit...carried away.

Lets take a stroll down memory lane, shall we.

You remember 2019... Right? Ofcourse you do. Its that moment in time that you wish & your kind wish they could erase (kinda like how TEJAs was concieved). But you know us Pakistanis - [hum bhoolnay nahe dainengay].

When Operation Swift Retort happened in February, 2019. We did not celebrate, nor show any proof on 14th August at that time either.

We saved it for Defence Day in September.

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Though it happened at an earlier date, it was aired on 14th September, 2019.

Now..., after that was aired, a mini-Documentary on the Anniversary of Operation Swift Retort (the following year) - was released on Feb 27, 2020

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Now, should we talk about Proof...?

You think we could get our Viper Driver back after you shot his F-16 down...?

- Karchi Port is burning
- Field Marshall hiding
- PM Shebaz Sharif in CMH (Hospital)
- Baluchistan gets Freedom

Oh & my personal favourite...
- Indian Navy in Lahore

Indian Navy appears to be stuck in Lahore even after the floods. Pakistan Navy wants to help, but admit that they don't have the means or tech to go on to a land locked City.

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Indian Media... [MashahAllah] their credibility took quite a hit this year. Oh well, they can now exchange notes with the IAF.



[Douno paidul]

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Still waiting for proof to come through
 
airhead said:
As 2025!has shown you cannot hide a wreckage in this day and age..it will show up on social media.
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If it wasn't for the idiocy of that Indian Soldier making selfie with wreckage at Ramban. We would never have been sure about the Mig29 kill. There was no other source to confirm that kill. Only an idiot in uniform making selfie with wreckage. I bet he got court martialed.
 
side-winder said:
You sound like a 10 year old - Hassan Siddique had no authority to "claim" a kill. The pilot can do nothing beyond the Fox 3.

The whole battlespace is watched by C2 centers. The pilot has only limited visibility of battlespace.

Btw Hassan was infact later called up at AHQ and scolded for a 'non-professional' act.
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Su30MKI was hit 100%. The IAF pilots made it land back to base and was considered damaged beyond repair and -1 from their inventory, thus considered a valid kill.


Hassan Siddiqui was never scolded up at AHQ , infact was praised and is a well respected fighter pilot in PAF.
 
msaad1237 said:
Su30MKI was hit 100%. The IAF pilots made it land back to base and was considered damaged beyond repair and -1 from their inventory, thus considered a valid kill.


Hassan Siddiqui was never scolded up at AHQ , infact was praised and is a well respected fighter pilot in PAF.
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Where are getting all this ?
 
airhead said:
Fact remains ..su30 remains unconfirmed ..medals are not given for unconfirmed kills. As 2025!has shown you cannot hide a wreckage in this day and age..it will show up on social media. The fact that 2019 su30 wreckage did not show up further puts doubts into this claim ..guys let’s move the eff on
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Come on Shiv Aroor, formerly India Today now NDTV, stop making fake ids and coming here spewing your crap....🤣😁🤣😁
 
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