Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Clowns huh..
There you go again, showing your true colors and putting your thumb on the scale. I have yet to see similar photos from Iran. I am beginning to think Mohsen Reyhani is in this forum. Here is an image of the American strike on Natanz below. The Jaifa lucky strike is my favorite.
image 1 shows a heavily damaged residential building, image 2 shows some damaged cars

image 3 shows precise damage to important buildings at the Natanz site

so you are off to a good start
 
Where did all those delusional “Iran is so powerful Israel and America don’t dare touch iran” idiots run off too? Where did those Iran cheerleaders go?
a lot of them are still here bragging about how accurate Iran's missiles are and how they forced Israel into submission. some people will always find a new way to cope and ignore reality.
 
I know. This lucky strike is one of my favorites.
Where is Mohsen Reyhani? He must listen to the 18-second mark of the video.
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We used different missiles with different payloads and accuracy.
We did have some good hits for sure, but also had terrible hits as well.

Nevertheless, as I have said before, our missiles forces were the only part of our defense industry that met my expectations and helped us survive the first battle. Our drones, however, performed extremely poorly in terms of quantity and quality, way worse than what I imagined to be the case.
 
a lot of them are still here bragging about how accurate Iran's missiles are and how they forced Israel into submission. some people will always find a new way to cope and ignore reality.
Also, I don't get the point of the last image. What's that supposed to prove?
We fired an MRBM to destroy two oil tankers? And not oil tankers as in ships, but two vehicles. How much damage is that in total? $50K?
 
Also, I don't get the point of the last image. What's that supposed to prove?
We fired an MRBM to destroy two oil tankers? And not oil tankers as in ships, but two vehicles. How much damage is that in total? $50K?
That picture is from the Bazan refinery in Haifa, Israel.
 
That picture is from the Bazan refinery in Haifa, Israel.
Yes, I know that, but it's not showing damage to the facility itself, but two oil tankers nearby. The facility behind it looks intact in that photo. My point is that it's not a good photo to prove damage at all.
 
you may not have many missiles left or TELs to operate them
this is the only part I have to push back on

the biggest SSM bases in the west were not used, seems safe to assume they held a large proportion of Iran's missiles and TELs.
 
That picture is from the Bazan refinery in Haifa, Israel.
that's a large target and it was effectively hit by two missiles simultaneously

I always said Iran's missiles are well suited towards bigger 'soft' targets given their relatively low accuracy at 1500km+ range

plus some missiles clearly have better accuracy than others. but we are probably talking about 100m CEP vs 500m CEP, rather than 20m vs 50m.
 
Yes, I know that, but it's not showing damage to the facility itself, but two oil tankers nearby. The facility behind it looks intact in that photo. My point is that it's not a good photo to prove damage at all.
The facility was taken off line due to the damage from the attack. Considering the censorship that was put into effect across Israel, its remarkable that there is any photo evidence of the damage inflicted online.
 
The facility was taken off line due to the damage from the attack. Considering the censorship that was put into effect across Israel, its remarkable that there is any photo evidence of the damage inflicted online.
I don't get why we are so weak in media.
Is it really that difficult to obtain 30cm satellite images for a state-actor like Iran?
And if yes, why are we not employing high-resolution satellites? What happened to Khayyam-1? Even 1m resolution is better than nothing at all.
 
I don't get why we are so weak in media.
Is it really that difficult to obtain 30cm satellite images for a state-actor like Iran?
And if yes, why are we not employing high-resolution satellites? What happened to Khayyam-1? Even 1m resolution is better than nothing at all.
Realize that no party on Iran is interested in  winning this war. Conservatives only want to avoid war amd escalation at any cost and reformists are hoping to outright lose the war.
 
Where did all those delusional “Iran is so powerful Israel and America don’t dare touch Iran” idiots run off too? Where did those Iran cheerleaders go? Funny how those that were accusing everyone of being secret Zionist spies are the first to disappear back to their European capitals.

since 2020 Iran has been systemically weakened and the deterrence it built 20 years ago has vanished. All for a nuclear program that gave it nothing in the end but cost trillions of dollars in lost income, opportunity, and brain drain.

Iran’s entire deterrence paradigm was built with Solemani as the puppet master and his death along with tens (if not hundreds) of his fellow generals/officers/associates lead to the collapse of IRGC in terms of capability.

I now firmly believe that Teherani Moghdams death in 2010 was not an accident but likely an Israeli internal strike team that used drone or spike missile to attack the missile storage facility and ignite a chain reaction (or maybe they had an inside man that planted explosives like in the Haniyeh IRGC compound assassination).

There were many signs that Iran had been completely infiltrated from Fakhrizadeh assassination to Haniyeh to other mysterious events to Raisi and Nasrallah.

October 2023 was Iran’s chance to fight a war for existential survival. Instead they elected Pezeshkian and watched as everyone besides the Houthi’s were destroyed.

Many on here still talk about resistance and are borderline delusional.

You don’t have an airforce, you don’t have a nuclear program, you don’t have an air defense network, you may not have many missiles left or TELs to operate them, you have an ongoing water crisis, and your economy is on life support. Russia and China have no interest in bailing you out because they always thought you would one day head back into Western orbit anyway.

Yet you think you can win? The enemy will continue to choke you off.

This little game you played for 25 years needs to conclude one way or another.
Counter-narratives are also in the same style from the other side, this was all-in zionistic attempted attack prepared for decades, with irreparable damage network inside Iran, their main weapon...

This last attack on Iran was planned in the same way as Hezbollah's full decapitation with communication devices, it will be achieved or lost forever to be able as a chance...

So with unparalleled tactical skills and almost immediate success of the zionistic operation, zionists presented air superiority, which is the fact for more than half a century...but they presented some vulnerabilities on their own, also, which is not an usual situation....

I am not judging what the absolute truth is, just saying that complexity is overwhelmingly important in this context...
 
image 1 shows a heavily damaged residential building, image 2 shows some damaged cars

image 3 shows precise damage to important buildings at the Natanz site

so you are off to a good start
Are you kidding? There are at least over 100 images on Yandex and other search engines. You keep doubling down, and with the narrative being parroted lines by the Zionists. My rebuttal to you and others like you is the same every time. Why is there such heavy sensorship two months after the war? If the strikes were so ineffective as people like you claim, then let us see the impacts of the other 250+ missiles that fell into open fields.
 
Where did all those delusional “Iran is so powerful Israel and America don’t dare touch iran” idiots run off too? Where did those Iran cheerleaders go? Funny how those that were accusing everyone of being secret Zionist spies are the first to disappear back to their European capitals.

since 2020 Iran has been systemically weakened and the deterrence it built 20 years ago has vanished. All for a nuclear program that gave it nothing in the end but cost trillions of dollars in lost income, opportunity, and brain drain.

Iran’s entire deterrence paradigm was built with Solemani as the puppet master and his death along with tens (if not hundreds) of his fellow generals/officers/associates lead to the collapse of IRGC in terms of capability.

I now firmly believe that Teherani Moghdams death in 2010 was not an accident but likely an Israeli internal strike team that used drone or spike missile to attack the missile storage facility and ignite a chain reaction (or maybe they had an inside man that planted explosives like in the Haniyeh IRGC compound assassination).

There were many signs that Iran had been completely infiltrated from Fakhrizadeh assassination to Haniyeh to other mysterious events to Raisi and Nasrallah.

October 2023 was Iran’s chance to fight a war for existential survival. Instead they elected Pezeshkian and watched as everyone besides the Houthi’s were destroyed.

Many on here still talk about resistance and are borderline delusional.

You don’t have an airforce, you don’t have a nuclear program, you don’t have an air defense network, you may not have many missiles left or TELs to operate them, you have an ongoing water crisis, and your economy is on life support. Russia and China have no interest in bailing you out because they always thought you would one day head back into Western orbit anyway.

Yet you think you can win? The enemy will continue to choke you off.

This little game you played for 25 years needs to conclude one way or another.
I am not cheering on the IR. They spent 30 years building militias as a forward defense against Israel, and what happened? Where did they go other than the Houtis? At this point, with the forward defense gone, they have to declare Iran as a nuclear-weapon state; otherwise, the wars will continue. Does anyone know what happened to 600+ kilos of 60% enriched uranium? ( Bibi says they were all destroyed) Some here want to believe that there are no undeclared nuclear sites.
I am pointing to the fact that even though Israel was successful during the first two days, they were not able to disrupt command and control. After the first twelve hours, new blood replaced the dead, and the war started.
I am pointing to the fact that Israel's only opportunity to drag the US into a war with Iran is closing fast. It was the Americans who bombed Natanz and Fordow, not Israel. Even with all of the shortcomings and BS propaganda that we have been hearing, IR gave a decisive response. Some in this forum believe, or at least are trying hard to play the narrative that the only strikes are the cell phone images and videos uploaded. If all of the other missiles fell in open spaces as claimed, then why is there heavy sensorship? Some in this forum worship and claim the only narrative is the Israeli side with all of their shills on X.
I am pointing out the counter-narrative to this war. The regime is highly unpopular. This war is the only chance it has to start fundamental reforms and address the grievances of Iranians, or it will be done and over with sooner than they think. We did not need all of the useless chants and saber-rattling over the last four decades. We did not need to take on the world Jewry, although in reality, this genocidal regime has only one doctrine. Destroy your neighbors and have the American empire fight your wars. I am not sure how the mullahs could have appeased them; indeed, chanting death to them did not help.
Iran has no air force, but what were the options? Some say that the Chinese were willing to sell us up to 200 J10s in 2016, and Rouhani declined in favor of French aircraft. What an idiot. If the story is true, the Chinese are the only side willing to sell Iran aircraft, and they would have doubled down with all of the saber-rattling of Trump 1.0
Look at the bright side. At least we will not hear about Saegheh 4 or 5 anymore. The cat is out of the bag. Hopefully, they learned that propaganda will lead to a quick demise.
 
Are you kidding? There are at least over 100 images on Yandex and other search engines.
you showed me images and I responded to them, don't change the subject now

if you have better images to show us to prove your point that Iran's missiles are accurate, go ahead
 

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