Iranian Chill Thread

[ParthianLord]

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Marandi's English is perfect. He was born and studied in the US...? Odd thing to say.

marandi is only half iranian,

his mother is a US latina , he is also born there and a US citizen. Zarif is abit clownish but he is smarter then marandi. (nesf amrikai nemitoone Diplomate iran beshe....)

marandi = always complaining, everything is the other sides fault, but wont dare to say anything to his own bosses if they make mistakes.

zarif= blames his opponents too, but atleast also looks at our own faults and does some self reflection.

both whine alot though.

we need diplomats better then these two.

 

[tsunset]

marandi is only half iranian,

his mother is a US latina , he is also born there and a US citizen. Zarif is abit clownish but he is smarter then marandi. (nesf amrikai nemitoone Diplomate iran beshe....)

marandi = always complaining, everything is the other sides fault. wont dare to say anything to his own bosses.

zarif= blames his opponents too, but atleast also looks at our own faults and does some self reflection.

both whine alot though.

we need diplomats better then these two.

Marandi's birth name was Bill or Ben, can't remember and he changed his name

When i say Marandi doesn't perform, it isn't because of his "non intellect", but simply that he falls straight into the reporter's traps (deviating the question to answer the question by going far off the subject, then gets blamed by the reporter for it)

 

[Tehrani021]

marandi is only half iranian,

his mother is a US latina , he is also born there and a US citizen. Zarif is abit clownish but he is smarter then marandi. (nesf amrikai nemitoone Diplomate iran beshe....)

marandi = always complaining, everything is the other sides fault, but wont dare to say anything to his own bosses if they make mistakes.

zarif= blames his opponents too, but atleast also looks at our own faults and does some self reflection.

both whine alot though.

we need diplomats better then these two.

There's definitely always room for improvement. But I'm not sure what you mean that Zarif is more intelligent than Marandi? Because Marandi is a professor whereas Zarif is not. I think you mean Zarif is more cunning and has a way with words, which I would argue people also see right through it eventually. It may be more suitable for the showmanship required for the UN circus, but there's still not much substance there. On the other hand, a diplomat needs to be an apologist for his country so there is no room for "self reflection" and "look at our own faults" while in that role, that's the sort of shit you wait and do when you retire and write a book. So Marandi is sticking to the brief quite well and as expected.

 

[jauk]

marandi is only half iranian,

his mother is a US latina , he is also born there and a US citizen. Zarif is abit clownish but he is smarter then marandi. (nesf amrikai nemitoone Diplomate iran beshe....)

marandi = always complaining, everything is the other sides fault, but wont dare to say anything to his own bosses if they make mistakes.

zarif= blames his opponents too, but atleast also looks at our own faults and does some self reflection.

both whine alot though.

we need diplomats better then these two.

Marandi isn’t a diplomat. Zarif literally doesn’t have a leg to stand on. It seems we’ve forgotten the results of the JCPOA by this clown.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Hack-Hook]

We will have to agree to disagree on that and I think his critics were from across the board.

Well he wasn't wrong in what he said about who needs the deal more, which had no relation with Mahsa Amini. I'm pretty sure there was an energy crisis in Germany and a few other places, so while he may have over egged it he was in the ball park with that as well. There is no better English speaker amongst the hardliners than Marandi.

there was no crisis , energy deal with a certain peninsula saw to that

 

[Tehrani021]

there was no crisis , energy deal with a certain peninsula saw to that

We're talking about 2022 when there was a crisis and when Marandi made the statement. Obviously times have changed...

 

[Hack-Hook]

Marandi isn’t a diplomat. Zarif literally doesn’t have a leg to stand on. It seems we’ve forgotten the results of the JCPOA by this clown.

Zarif always delivered .his boss told him to deliver jcpoa and he bring the only possible deal that every body who has a say on the matter accepted , if some one didn't honor the deal later its not his problem . also if the deal so bad why they try to revive it why they try to adhere to it

 

[Hack-Hook]

We're talking about 2022 when there was a crisis and when Marandi made the statement. Obviously times have changed...

even then , the prices rise but there was no crisis , Qatar outdid itself to see to that

 

[Tehrani021]

even then , the prices rise but there was no crisis , Qatar outdid itself to see to that

Don't take my word for it, listen to how the German energy regulator calls it a crisis and even said it was not over back in 2023:

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/energy-crisis-not-over-warns-german-energy-regulator-2023-06-07/

Like I said it was a crisis, but it was over-egged i.e. exaggerated. I won't change my mind on this. Final reply.

 

[jauk]

Zarif always delivered .his boss told him to deliver jcpoa and he bring the only possible deal that every body who has a say on the matter accepted , if some one didn't honor the deal later its not his problem . also if the deal so bad why they try to revive it why they try to adhere to it

Playing house. Bringing in easy cash. Simple. West correctly didn't fall for it.

 

[Tehrani021]

Playing house. Bringing in easy cash. Simple. West correctly didn't fall for it.

Correctly? Who's side are you on? Zarif's performance post-deal was pathetic, as was the slow response of the government, but Hack Hook is correct in saying that he did deliver a deal and was not his fault the US reneged. Very odd thing to say....

Zarif always delivered .his boss told him to deliver jcpoa and he bring the only possible deal that every body who has a say on the matter accepted , if some one didn't honor the deal later its not his problem . also if the deal so bad why they try to revive it why they try to adhere to it

We could blame him for not having adequate safeguards in the original text in the event of US pulling out unilaterally unreasonably. Because everyone who remained in the deal still expected Iran to adhere to the deal despite there being no benefit to Iran. So while he did deliver something, that something was inadequate and poorly negotiatated.

Also whatever safeguards were present in the deal were not utilised for over year after Trump pulled out, in effect making Iran look weak and desperate. All the "snapbacks" were for Iran, not the other way around. He has to take some blame for this as well.

 

[jauk]

Correctly? Who's side are you on? Zarif's performance post-deal was pathetic, as was the slow response of the government, but Hack Hook is correct in saying that he did deliver a deal and was not his fault the US reneged. Very odd thing to say....

<CLIP!>

Yes, correctly. Post Trump, the 'west' correctly understood that adhering to the JCPOA was futile and merely a painful balm on Iranian nuclear capacity. Iran also correctly attempted to CONTINUE with this charade to get access to cash when BIDEN came into power. Zarif/Rohani's efforts damped Iranian progress until Trump destroyed the JCPOA (thank you!).

 

[Hack-Hook]

Yes, correctly. Post Trump, the 'west' correctly understood that adhering to the JCPOA was futile and merely a painful balm on Iranian nuclear capacity'. Iran also correctly attempted to CONTINUE with this charade to get access to cash when BIDEN came into power. Zarif/Rohani's efforts damped Iranian progress until Trump destroyed the JCPOA (thank you!).

national security council ratified it, parliament agreed to it , guardian council agreed to it.
but it seems the only one to blame is mr. Zarif , so fantastic there is one person to blame for everything

 

[jauk]

national security council ratified it, parliament agreed to it , guardian council agreed to it.
but it seems the only one to blame is mr. Zarif , so fantastic there is one person to blame for everything

Well, that's another story altogether. And I do question that myself. Regardless, and back to the original point, one needs to merely listen to this clown and hear his corrupt west-loving, Iran hating views. That's evident and can't be argued.