Turkish Naval Programs

[Foinikas]

Ther is hellenism going on in the agean sea. Our neighbour Greece thinks they can forcly push ther dream on the agean sea. No hellenism...

Hellenism has existed in the Aegean since ancient times. You often forget that.

 

[Oublious]

Hellenism has existed in the Aegean since ancient times. You often forget that.

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Thank you, thats exactly what we are trying to tell people. Greece lives in a fantasy world.

 

[Foinikas]

Thank you, thats exactly what we are trying to tell people. Greece lives in a fantasy world.

You ignore history and want to re-write the Treaty of Lausanne. Your expansionism will eventually become your problem.

 

[Anatolia]

You ignore history and want to re-write the Treaty of Lausanne. Your expansionism will eventually become your problem.

And who will stop us? Like for example in Syria.. who is going to come stop us from doing what we want lol.

 

[Foinikas]

And who will stop us? Like for example in Syria.. who is going to come stop us from doing what we want lol.

Americans,Russians,Israelis,whoever sees his interests in danger by your meddling.

 

[Anatolia]

Americans,Russians,Israelis,whoever sees his interests in danger by your meddling.

Do you really think there're Americans sat in Los Angeles prepare to die for Syria? Think what you're saying logically. All you can do is talk, cry, moan..but to actually send your loved ones to actually do anything.. naah, I don't see it lol.
This is the problem with you keyboard generals. you look at weapons , this and that and come to a conclusion of winner. the real world doesn't work like that, or Europe would removed Russia by now from Ukraine.

 

[Foinikas]

Do you really think there're Americans sat in Los Angeles prepare to die for Syria? Think what you're saying logically. All you can do is talk, cry, moan..but to actually send your loved ones to actually do anything.. naah, I don't see it lol.

Syria? Not Syria. I didn't even mention Syria. There could be a hundred reasons for a bigger power to attack you. Either Americans or Russians or Europeans or Israelis.

 

[Foinikas]

This is the problem with you keyboard generals. you look at weapons , this and that and come to a conclusion of winner.

Tell that to your compatriot MMM-E

 

[Anatolia]

Syria? Not Syria. I didn't even mention Syria. There could be a hundred reasons for a bigger power to attack you. Either Americans or Russians or Europeans or Israelis.

You mention expansion.. Syria was not expanded no? Or does Syria not count now lol. Be more specific dude. where can we take and no one cares. thanks

 

[hyperman]

Hellenism has existed in the Aegean since ancient times. You often forget that.

Ancient Greeks aren't Christians. Greeks are Orthodox Turks. Ottomans are 3rd Rome.

 

[MMM-E]

Nah,we also have SCALP-EG and soon MdCN

So funny , FOINIKAS as a Greek with so high in ultranationalist delusions

1 -- SCALP-EG is not anti-ship Missile .. but air launched Cruise Missile for land attack

on the other hand ,
Turkiye has SLAM-ER and SOM air launched anti-ship Missiles
also CAKIR anti-ship Missile from air-land-naval platforms
HARPOON and ATMACA anti-ship Missiles from land-naval platforms
also 110 km KGK-82 with RF seeker for anti-ship role .. ( from F-16s )
also MAM-T IIR, IHA-230, KUZGUN-TJ, EREN, KEMANKES and TOLUN-IIR from UCAVs
also ALPAGUT and SUPER LIGHTNING kamikaze Drones from UCAVs

Also 300-ER air launched supersonic Ballistic Missile with TV Camera seeker to hit Warships .... unique in NATO

150+ km IHA-230 supersonic Missile
500+ km 300-ER supersonic Missile




2 -- MdCN Missile is a land attack Cruise Missile and there is no definitive purchase contract for MdCN Missile .. and how many ? only 32 units ?

on the other hand Turkiye has 2 indigenous missile projects
1 -- GEZGIN land attack Cruise Missile


2 -- TAYFUN hypersonic Ballistic Missile with many configurations including anti-ship Ballistic Missile

Unique in NATO
-- TAYFUN Block-1 ( speed of mach 5.2 )
-- TAYFUN Block-4 ( speed of mach 10 )




RESULT = Turkiye has the best missile fire power in NATO with USA

Only 300 Turkish UCAVs to carry 2.000+ missiles/guided munitions which are more than Hellenic+Egyptian+Israeli+French Navies combined SAM fire power

Can Turkish UCAVs survive the Greek Air Force?

Can the Greek Air Force ( F-16V and RAFALE ) survive the KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 stealth UCAVs soon ?


The Greek Air Force can not cross the 25th meridian in the Aegean , if Turkiye deploy S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems in CANAKKALE , IZMIR , MUGLA

also 4 Boeing E7T AEWC and 230+ F-16 Fighter Jets are in service

in 1996 , more than 100 Turkish F-16s blocked the Greek Air Force over the Aegean
today Turkiye has S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems .. 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC
also soon , KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 stealth UCAVs

Syria? Not Syria. I didn't even mention Syria. There could be a hundred reasons for a bigger power to attack you. Either Americans or Russians or Europeans or Israelis.

Nobody could dare to attack on Turkiye when the Turkish Armed Forces were in action in Syria , Libya , Karabakh and in the Eastern Mediterranean

Turkiye is not Iraq or Syria or Libya or Lebanon/Palestine

Tell that to your compatriot MMM-E

Tell that to your DENDIAS and MITCOTAKIS

 

[Yasser76]

Turk v Greek bickering aside, this is a very informative thread from a military and historical perspective. Wish Pak-India threads were more like this

 

[MMM-E]

Makes the development? Meaning it doesn't yet have enough A2/AD?

Only 3 indigenous Systems will join the Turkish A2/AD capability in near future
1 -- TF-2000 class Destroyer ( under construction )
2 -- MILDEN class AIP Submarine ( under construction )
3 -- TAYFUN hypersonic anti-ship Ballistic Missile and RAMJET powered supersonic anti-ship Missile

KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets enter service in 2026-2027 period

Also 40 Eurofighter , 40 F-16V and 20 KAAN Fighter Jets on agenda with 160-180-200 km AIM-120C8 , METEOR , GOKBORA , GOKHAN air to air Missiles



With access for Turkiye’s credible maritime combat power and A2/AD capability vastly improved between 2015 and 2025
now , Turkiye has enough A2/AD capability to turn enemy naval fleet into scrap of metal in the Eastern Mediterranean

4 Boeing E-7T AEWC with 600 km AESA Radar
700+ km ALP-310G early warning AESA Radar

230+ F-16 Fighter Jets armed with anti-ship missiles / guided munitions
300+ UCAVs armed with anti-ship missiles / guided munitions

BARBAROS Coastal Defense System ( ATMACA and CAKIR anti-ship Missiles )

S400 long range Air Defense System
SIPER long range Air Defense System

KORAL-200 next gen Radar Electronic Warfare System
TCG UFUK electronic warfare Ship
4 HAVASOJ airborne stand of jammer Aircraft
MARLIN unmanned Vessel became the first unmanned surface object with electronic warfare capability in the world

4 ADA class anti-submarine Corvettes
17 Frigates
14 Submarines
20 FACs
16 TUZLA class Patrol Ships with ASW capability
TCG ANADOLU amphibious assault Ship with TB-3 UCAVs

12 ASW Aircraft .... ( 6 CN-235 and 6 ATR-600 )
24 ASW Helicopters

Unmanned Combat Vessels
Unmanned kamikaze Vessels

New Warships / Submarines like 8 ISTIF Frigates , 4 MEKO-200TN modernized Frigates , 10 HISAR OPVs , 6 REIS ( Type-214TN ) AIP Submarines enter service year by year


Greece only can dream about most of these Systems
so funny , 4 FDI Frigates and end of Turkiye

The Eastern Mediterranean is TURKIYE's play zone

 

[Anatolia]

Ancient Greeks aren't Christians. Greeks are Orthodox Turks. Ottomans are 3rd Rome.

No troll. it's basically true. The modern day Greeks have nothing to do with the ancient Greece lol. Same for Egyptians etc.
Greece is more Turkish than these so-called Greeks. And I am being serious
Take all the Islands I say. bring it home!!

 

[Foinikas]

So funny , FOINIKAS as a Greek with so high in ultranationalist delusions

Nobody could dare to attack on Turkiye when the Turkish Armed Forces were in action in Syria , Libya , Karabakh and in the Eastern Mediterranean

Turkiye is not Iraq or Syria or Libya or Lebanon/Palestine

Oh boy,you're in for a rude awakening....

Turk v Greek bickering aside, this is a very informative thread from a military and historical perspective. Wish Pak-India threads were more like this

It depends on the people participating. If you have 50 Paks of which 30 are mocking India without providing any real arguments,and 10 Indians of which 5 go like "Pakistan is lying,Pakistan is lying",then there's no real chat.

And Greek-Turkish threads would have been more interesting if there were more Greeks here who know more technical stuff than I do. I'm just an average Joe.

We had a guy in the old forum,Akritas,he was pretty good. But he had stopped posting often and when the forum went down,he didn't come back at all after that.

I kept some screenshots from back then:

No troll. it's basically true. The modern day Greeks have nothing to do with the ancient Greece lol. Same for Egyptians etc.
Greece is more Turkish than these so-called Greeks. And I am being serious
Take all the Islands I say. bring it home!!

Take a DNA test then. You forget that Muslims and Greeks didn't intermingle,Christians are not allowed to marry Muslim women and few Christian women would marry Muslims,mostly by force. On the contrary,there were forced conversions to Islam in Anatolia or Christians who from the early stages of Ottoman conquest converted for whatever reasons. Take a DNA test,you might be surprised.