Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shafagh]

You can let the plane glide and land on water, you can jump with parachutes. Come on man there are options.

Too late for suggestions. All good suggestions were for the time that Trump was not back in power. It's like we're in an airplane without engines, freefalling to our death.

Khamenei successfully ruined Iran. Mission accomplished.

 

[ShapurII]

You can let the plane glide and land on water, you can jump with parachutes. Come on man there are options.

Yeah, but you'll land on an ocean far from any land to save yourself lol
So, unless you can swim day and night for thousands of miles, the only thing it will change is that you'll starve to death in the middle of an ocean lol

Let's recap:
1. Our trusted nuclear scientists are dead.
2. Our enriched uranium has been trapped and we cannot even get close to it.
3. We have enough missiles to fight back for 3-6 months if we try to be extremely optimistic.
4. Our drones performed extremely poorly in the war. Both in terms of quality and quantity. We fired ~80 drones each day. Less than 2% hit their targets.
5. Our air force had to run away and hide during the war.
6. Our air defense was crippled in the initial hours of the war.
7. The country is full of Israeli agents.
8. Most importantly, we are ruled by a bunch of senile fools.

Don't you see where it's heading?

 

[Arash]

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I will post here for now but perhaps there should be a separate thread for JCPOA related discussions.
One positive that may come from snapback is the death of illusions that there can be a beneficial relationship with the west. A pivot to the East, which was always the best move, is now the only move.

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It is a shame khamenei allows his reformists to destroy our relationship with what should be our allies.

One thing to all our dear forumers...

Reformists are delusional, ok. But who brought them up and cheered for them in Iran and abroad ?

Iranians are all responsible for the mess. Now if the country elites and its people get a grip they may be able to correct some of our past mistakes..... let's pray!

 

[Arash]

Yeah, but you'll land on an ocean far from any land to save yourself lol
So, unless you can swim day and night for thousands of miles, the only thing it will change is that you'll starve to death in the middle of an ocean lol

Let's recap:
1. Our trusted nuclear scientists are dead.
2. Our enriched uranium has been trapped and we cannot even get close to it.
3. We have enough missiles to fight back for 3-6 months if we try to be extremely optimistic.
4. Our drones performed extremely poorly in the war. Both in terms of quality and quantity. We fired ~80 drones each day. Less than 2% hit their targets.
5. Our air force had to run away and hide during the war.
6. Our air defense was crippled in the initial hours of the war.
7. The country is full of Israeli agents.
8. Most importantly, we are ruled by a bunch of senile fools.

Don't you see where it's heading?

Man you are overreacting .........

 

[ShapurII]

Man you are overreacting .........

OK. Convince me where I'm wrong. Which one of the things I said is not factual?

 

[Immortals]

We will have round 2 in a few days, it seems.

Where do you get “in a few days” from?

 

[Arash]

OK. Convince me where I'm wrong. Which one of the things I said is not factual?

I'm going to sleep but I'll try to answer you later on

 

[kastor ville]

So the Sanpback is part of a wider strategy to weaken Iran,.and get it ready for a collapse. This snapback will also prevent Iran to buy defensive weapons....so they want us defenseless.
You let a 80 yr cleric run policy this is what you get!
Had enough yet fools?
But wait.....it's the reformists!!!!

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[ShapurII]

Where do you get “in a few days” from?

There is no proof obviously, but Israel is getting armed to the teeth without a pause, Grossi passively threatened Iran with another war, Turkey has closed its airspace to Israelis (only in statements, Israeli planes seem to be still flying over Turkey), Germany has called on its citizens to leave Iran "immediately", Europeans have openly declared war on Iran (snapback mechanism), etc.

I don't know if you remember or not, but when we accepted the ceasefire, my estimate was that the next round would start in September. So, it's rather an issue of faith and putting what is happening around us together. I could very well be 100% wrong. It's just an opinion after all.

I'm going to sleep but I'll try to answer you later on

Sleep well, bro.

 

[kastor ville]

There is no proof obviously, but Israel is getting armed to the teeth without a pause, Grossi passively threatened Iran with another war, Turkey has closed its airspace to Israelis (only in statements, Israeli planes seem to be still flying over Turkey), Germany has called on its citizens to leave Iran "immediately", Europeans have openly declared war on Iran (snapback mechanism), etc.

I don't know if you remember or not, but when we accepted the ceasefire, my estimate was that the next round would start in September. So, it's rather an issue of faith and putting what is happening around us together. I could very well be 100% wrong. It's just an opinion after all.


Sleep well, bro.

I was just going to post about this....Russia pulled it's people from Israel, and Germany warning its people to leave Iran.....so we all know what's next.
Does the fking leadership in Iran know???????
Are they on alert? Are they going to to something differently this time?
There is no surprise this time ...no more excuses. If they see them making move we should fire first. Be bold and be ruthless.....just like the Zio bastards.

 

[ShapurII]

I was just going to post about this....Russia pulled it's people from Israel, and Germany warning its people to leave Iran.....so we all know what's next.
Does the fking leadership in Iran know???????
Are they on alert? Are they going to to something differently this time?
There is no surprise this time ...no more excuses. If they see them making move we should fire first. Be bold and be ruthless.....just like the Zio bastards.

Yes, exactly. I mean, you can clearly see the writing on the wall.

Meanwhile, if we believe that their ultimate goal is the destruction of Iran, which most of us seem to agree on it, then why should they give Iran any time to reinforce and recover from the last battle?

Constant state of war will hasten Iran's demise. Iran's economy is already down the toilet. Now imagine you add constant war instability to it as well. Hoarding will skyrocket, further rising the prices, further pushing our economy towards a complete collapse. After 30 days, they may even try to enforce an actual trade blockade on us.

I remember many of us here questioned the IR narrative when they threatened Iran would build nuclear weapons if attacked. "Why do these fools think they will be allowed to build nukes after war has started?", we said that right here. It seems that these people really think that their enemy would let them have a way out when they've been nearly knocked out.

 

[kastor ville]

Yes, exactly. I mean, you can clearly see the writing on the wall.

Meanwhile, if we believe that their ultimate goal is the destruction of Iran, which most of us seem to agree on it, then why should they give Iran any time to reinforce and recover from the last battle?

Constant state of war will hasten Iran's demise. Iran's economy is already down the toilet. Now imagine you add constant war instability to it as well. Hoarding will skyrocket, further rising the prices, further pushing our economy towards a complete collapse. After 30 days, they may even try to enforce an actual trade blockade on us.

I remember many of us here questioned the IR narrative when they threatened Iran would build nuclear weapons if attacked. "Why do these fools think they will be allowed to build nukes after war has started?", we said that right here. It seems that these people really think that their enemy would let them have a way out when they've been nearly knocked out.

The Iranian leadership needs to view these events as an existential threat....they need to understand they can't be peace loving citizens..they need to take the gloves off and get ready for a final boss battle. I'm sorry, i normally try to avoid talking wars, but at this juncture we have a genocidial zio criminal hell bent on our destruction and he has a hold over the US president, because he's holding a file on that retard

 

[ShapurII]

The Iranian leadership needs to view these events as an existential threat....they need to understand they can't be peace loving citizens..they need to take the gloves off and get ready for a final boss battle. I'm sorry, i normally try to avoid wars, but at this juncture we have a genocidial zio criminal hell bent on our destruction and he has a hold over the US president, because he's holding a file on that retard

When we talk about European fascism, the US and particularly Israel, we have to remember that the Europeans killed 50-80 million people in the span of 8 years in World War II. The US killed over a million people in Iraq and Israelis are killing 25 children every day!

So, these people are dangerous. They are armed with the most fatal weapons. Only strategic nuclear weapons can change the balance of power for Iran, but it seems it's already too late for that. Even unconditional surrender doesn't seem to be an option.

This is the problem with Shiite ideology. They think in terms of sacrifice and the "Redness" of Ashura. I am completely OK with that if this sacrifice comes from the Ayatollahs, not our nation but they're dragging Iran to the situation of Ashura and they seem perfectly indifferent about it. Same policies as before, same people in power, same nonsense as 2 months ago.

 

[matty12345]

When we talk about European fascism, the US and particularly Israel, we have to remember that the Europeans killed 50-80 million people in the span of 8 years in World War II. The US killed over a million people in Iraq and Israelis are killing 25 children every day!

So, these people are dangerous. They are armed with the most fatal weapons. Only strategic nuclear weapons can change the balance of power for Iran, but it seems it's already too late for that. Even unconditional surrender doesn't seem to be an option.

This is the problem with Shiite ideology. They think in terms of sacrifice and the "Redness" of Ashura. I am completely OK with that if this sacrifice comes from the Ayatollahs, not our nation but they're dragging Iran to the situation of Ashura and they seem perfectly indifferent about it. Same policies as before, same people in power, same nonsense as 2 months ago.

"...Same people in power" meaning the AyatAllah or the Reformists? I mean who are you against?

 

[ShapurII]

"...Same people in power" meaning the AyatAllah or the Reformists? I mean who are you against?

Both. The entire system that picked the worst enemies for us, but then surrendered step by step after 2013. In a nearly authoritarian two-party system, you have only a delusion of change. One party is the ruling one, the other one acts as an escape goat for the other party.

I do not think the JCPOA should be blamed on the reformists alone. The entire system was behind this mess. Khamenei explicitly approved it by calling it "نرمش قهرمانانه".
So, why should we blame the reformists for it only? It was the conservative parliament that passed it in 20 minutes. Are these people going to be held responsible now? We all know the answer is no.

Did the reformists ban Iran from developing nukes and ICBMs? No. Did they chant "death to Israel" 24/7 when we were not armed well enough? No.