Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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Geez... people don't even read the link and want to paint whatever the F they want - clearly states that: Singh was making technical repairs after multiple missile firings from S-400. The bravery is at that point, Pakistan was sending drones/other munitions to target S-400.

No mention of any success - this is like throwing spaghetti at the wall in hopes that something will stick.
 
samsite84 said:
Geez... people don't even read the link and want to paint whatever the F they want - clearly states that: Singh was making technical repairs after multiple missile firings from S-400. The bravery is at that point, Pakistan was sending drones/other munitions to target S-400.

No mention of any success - this is like throwing spaghetti at the wall in hopes that something will stick.
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Why would India mention any success? It may be throwing spaghetti but you're deflecting with Maggi noodles.

Singh was repairing a launcher while under attack and then moved the launcher out of the place. right?
Why did he move it?
What happened?
It doesn't say anything about S-400 damaged as it doesn't say anything about S-400 undamaged.
 
Leaving the typical deniers aside - there was a way to see claims of PAF attacks in a certain form. Assuming the S-400 was only facing CM-400s with Jamming support.

First, assuming you have JF17 out of Shortkot - they can engage a S-400 at Adampur well into Pakistan airspace and still quite safe from the S-400. They launch 4 CM-400s.
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The weapons can be detected and for good measure I added a Rafale as well but the first sensors are Indian ground radars and a MR-SAM I also added at Adampur.
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Now, when the PAF does launch - notice something - the S-400 cannot engage. Two reasons, one is curvature but also there is NOT ENOUGH ILLUMINATION return to provide guidance.
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Just as a FYI - if you have a Rafale in that area - it actually could engage the CM-400s with a meteor if so equipped much earlier than the S-400 could.
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But, it isnt until past Tarn Taran that the S-400 can actually engage the weapons coming in.


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I ran this scenario 5 times for good measure - and 4 out of the 5 times the S-400 even under jamming is able to eventually get all 4 CM-400s launched at it. Using 12-14 missiles in the process.

However , in one case it was unable to intercept with radar and missiles both under jamming by a DA-20 and the cheeseboard got taken out and the site was dead.
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Chinese animation recreation of Rafael downing by PAF J10c
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Note war happened at night this is in day time ..
 
samsite84 said:
Geez... people don't even read the link and want to paint whatever the F they want - clearly states that: Singh was making technical repairs after multiple missile firings from S-400. The bravery is at that point, Pakistan was sending drones/other munitions to target S-400.

No mention of any success - this is like throwing spaghetti at the wall in hopes that something will stick.
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We don't expect your babus to directly and clearly accept S400 was hit? The jokers who still haven't disclosed their air losses till date will directly accept damage to S400?

That's a tacit admission with a pathetic cover up story with little mirch masala.

A launcher on fire being repaired during Pakistani Strikes - but hey it was only a technical glitch - Yeah 👍😁

Sounds very much like that story of Rafale loss due to technical glitch and not a PL-15 shoved up its ass. Which later, Dassault itself had to clarify.
 
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Look at these dumbfucks who think that's the location to deploy a TPS77 radar. Among the towering hangars and trees offering perfect screening to the radiations of Radar and giving a blank area on scope. 😁

4 months after the war still coming up with bullshit stories.

P.S i know exactly where TPS77 is deployed at Jacobabad.

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side-winder said:
Look at these dumbfucks who think that's the location to deploy a TPS77 radar. Among the towering hangars and trees offering perfect screening to the radiations of Radar and giving a blank area on scope. 😁

4 months after the war still coming up with bullshit stories.

P.S i know exactly where TPS77 is deployed at Jacobabad.

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Now Jaguars were involved in battle, next week Tejas with invisible engines bombed Kamra....
 
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Oscar said:
Leaving the typical deniers aside - there was a way to see claims of PAF attacks in a certain form. Assuming the S-400 was only facing CM-400s with Jamming support.

First, assuming you have JF17 out of Shortkot - they can engage a S-400 at Adampur well into Pakistan airspace and still quite safe from the S-400. They launch 4 CM-400s.
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The weapons can be detected and for good measure I added a Rafale as well but the first sensors are Indian ground radars and a MR-SAM I also added at Adampur.
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Now, when the PAF does launch - notice something - the S-400 cannot engage. Two reasons, one is curvature but also there is NOT ENOUGH ILLUMINATION return to provide guidance.
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Just as a FYI - if you have a Rafale in that area - it actually could engage the CM-400s with a meteor if so equipped much earlier than the S-400 could.
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But, it isnt until past Tarn Taran that the S-400 can actually engage the weapons coming in.


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I ran this scenario 5 times for good measure - and 4 out of the 5 times the S-400 even under jamming is able to eventually get all 4 CM-400s launched at it. Using 12-14 missiles in the process.

However , in one case it was unable to intercept with radar and missiles both under jamming by a DA-20 and the cheeseboard got taken out and the site was dead.
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Interesting that you would consider meteor being able to intercept a supersonic missile.....that too using limited power Radar on the Rafale.

But yea, it makes sense. I didn't doubt AVM Aurangzeb's comment for a second....he said taking out the S-400 is not an issue............where it is actually location at that point in time is.....because mobility can change your entire attack tactics.

I think S-400 has been touted by Indians just like their MKIs and Rafales........plus no need to waste CM-400s on it......explore more FPV drones attack scenario on S-400s
 
side-winder said:
We don't expect your babus to directly and clearly accept S400 was hit? The jokers who still haven't disclosed their air losses till date will directly accept damage to S400?

That's a tacit admission with a pathetic cover up story with little mirch masala.

A launcher on fire being repaired during Pakistani Strikes - but hey it was only a technical glitch - Yeah 👍😁

Sounds very much like that story of Rafale loss due to technical glitch and not a PL-15 shoved up its ass. Which later, Dassault itself had to clarify.
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Even if CM-400 didn't impact Cheeseboard directly, the impact and shrapnel would have damaged quite a bit of equipment, launchers, radar, C&C truck in the vicinity pretty much neutralizing the S-400 threat.

But these bhindians will never learn and hopefully their next bollywood scripted attack on Pakistan will be even bigger embarrassment.
 
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