Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Kyussis]

This only makes sense if you ignore all surrounding context. Why did khamenei ban nuclear weapons, impose missile range restrictions, spend billions on foreign armed groups, and constantly antagonize the whites while insisting on domestic enrichment, completely neglected domestic military development, abandoned all proxies instantly, and backed down from every military conflict with the whites as soon as possible? These are the actions of the world's most pathetic and incompetent leader in history or the deliberate actions of a foreign agent designed to destroy Iran. He lets reformists run rampant destroying everything because those are his orders from his handlers, and he can avoid the blame to stay in power and continue to destroy things. They did not need to let reformists run a candidate, but they did and they continue to do so intentionally.

If Khamenei was a stooge put in power to keep Iran weak, Why did he allow the IRGC to develop a missile force that is a thorn in the side of his "Masters"?

 

[BigMela2onin]

If Khamenei was a stooge put in power to keep Iran weak, Why did he allow the IRGC to develop a missile force that is a thorn in the side of his "Masters"?

The program was already started before him, but he did his best to limit their range and destructive payload as I mentioned.

 

[OldTwilight]

Khamenei is not fit for job anymore .... extending JCPOA just kills Iran , we should accept the loss and stop this damn 20 years negotiation game already ...

even war is better for Iran society compare to continue this kind of negotiations and staying on one toe

 

[Persian Gulf]

what makes everyone so sure that Israel is about to attack Iran again?

I am not seeing the same signs. last time was very obvious.

 

[Immortals]

Despite all the precautions, Israeli jets dropped six bombs on top of the bunker soon after the meeting began, targeting the two entrance and exit doors. Remarkably, nobody in the bunker was killed. When the leaders later made their way out of the bunker, they found the bodies of a few guards, killed by the blasts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/30/us/politics/israel-iran-assassination.html

Tell me how did Israeli jets drop those bombs precisely on those areas if they didn’t penetrate the airspace?

The copium on here is that no Israeli jets got deep within Iran. And that everything was drones, internal crews, and BMs lobbed from Iraq. I don’t believe that copium one bit.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Tell me how did Israeli jets drop those bombs precisely on those areas if they didn’t penetrate the airspace?

The copium on here is that no Israeli jets got deep within Iran. And that everything was drones, internal crews, and BMs lobbed from Iraq. I don’t believe that copium one bit.

never really understood the logic that MALE drones could fly freely around central Iran but Israeli jets could not

 

[Kyussis]

The program was already started before him, but he did his best to limit their range and destructive payload as I mentioned.

When Khamenei became the leader of the revolution in 1989. Iran was barely making Shahab-1s and Zelzal rockets! He could have kept Iran's missile capability restricted to those if he was a stooge like you claim, but he didn't!

 

[FUB]

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[Immortals]

Targeting Iran’s Leaders, Israel Found a Weak Link: Their Bodyguards​

The meeting was so secret that only the attendees, a handful of top Iranian government officials and military commanders, knew the time and location.

It was June 16, the fourth day of Iran’s war with Israel, and Iran’s Supreme National Security Council gathered for an emergency meeting in a bunker 100 feet below a mountain slope in the western part of Tehran. For days, a relentless Israeli bombing campaign had destroyed military, government and nuclear sites around Iran, and had decimated the top echelon of Iran’s military commanders and nuclear scientists.

The officials, who included President Masoud Pezeshkian, the heads of the judiciary and the intelligence ministry and senior military commanders, arrived in separate cars. None of them carried mobile phones, knowing that Israeli intelligence could track them.

Despite all the precautions, Israeli jets dropped six bombs on top of the bunker soon after the meeting began, targeting the two entrance and exit doors. Remarkably, nobody in the bunker was killed. When the leaders later made their way out of the bunker, they found the bodies of a few guards, killed by the blasts.

The attack threw Iran’s intelligence apparatus into a tailspin, and soon enough Iranian officials discovered a devastating security lapse: The Israelis had been led to the meeting by hacking the phones of bodyguards who had accompanied the Iranian leaders to the site and waited outside.

Israel’s tracking of the guards has not been previously reported. It was one part of a larger effort to penetrate the most tightly guarded circles of Iran’s security and intelligence apparatus that has had officials in Tehran chasing shadows for two months.

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they are probably leaking it since Iran discovered it. if this attack had been successful the war could have been much much worse for Iran.

they don't need to all meet in person. stick to encrypted hard line comms and separate secret discrete locations.

This country is doomed.

There is nothing to “leak”. This was the same tactic used against HZ. Literally verbatim. There was an article that said Israel used AI models and the cell tower pings of hundreds of HZ members to triangulate the most likely locations of HZ nerve centers in South Lebanon over months and years. They mapped their comings and goings.

Yet despite this being WIDELY REPORTED, This retarded government of Iran allowed their bodyguards to carry cell phones. Even Bin Laden and ISIS had more brain cells than the IRGC/Iranian Intelligence/leaders of this country.

Stick a fork in this the Republic. They are done.

 

[Immortals]

It is highly likely that the EU, by giving the impression that there is a 30-day grace period, is once again engaging in misdirection to launch a surprise attack on Iran.

Quite possible. Especially with US Navy off the coast of Venezuela (a known Iranian ally and major IRGC ally).

Perhaps Khamenei and the reformists are desperately pleading for surrender, but the U.S. and the EU are demanding Iran’s complete and unconditional surrender, making the situation dire.
Unable to decide on either surrender or war preparations, the likelihood of Iran being caught off guard by a surprise attack, similar to what happened in June, is increasing.

If people remember, back in George W Bush, there was reportedly a “grand bargain agreement” delivered by Iran to the U.S. that said Iran would give up support for Axis groups, normalize relations with America, and stop its proto-enrichment program at the time in exchange for removing the embargo + sanctions.

However, George Bush didn’t take it seriously (but it was delivered without clear indications that Khamenai authorized it) and George Bush was bent on reshaping the Middle East so he rejected any notion of a deal with Iran.

Anyway, if such a grand agreement did exist (and there was indications back then that Rouhani pleaded with the west to allow at least 100 centrifuges for research purposes) then I wouldn’t be surprised if the Republic factions decide resistance is futile and that the IRGC cannot properly defend the country.

Capitulation could potentially happen if this second round ends up with Iranian military performing badly.

 

[ShapurII]

Khamenei let them do it because he is the leader of the Islamic republic of Iran and the people of Iran keep voting for these reformist sellouts. Khamenei knows if he acts against the reformists, the Islamic Republic will unravel into chaos and civil war. So in true democratic fashion Iran has to suffer at the hands of the idiot masses who never learn and keep voting for the Reformist clowns!

Bullshit. It is Khamenei that did election engineering this time to pull out a reformist from the ballots.

 

[fitpOsitive]

If we are not preparing for it, then we don't have any right to complain.

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The missile depots of India, specially where India is manufacturing brahmos, should be blown before they are deployed. Otherwise, after October, it's clearly it's Pakistans turn, and India will flat Pakistan before Israel attacks us.

 

[ShapurII]

Targeting Iran’s Leaders, Israel Found a Weak Link: Their Bodyguards​

The meeting was so secret that only the attendees, a handful of top Iranian government officials and military commanders, knew the time and location.

It was June 16, the fourth day of Iran’s war with Israel, and Iran’s Supreme National Security Council gathered for an emergency meeting in a bunker 100 feet below a mountain slope in the western part of Tehran. For days, a relentless Israeli bombing campaign had destroyed military, government and nuclear sites around Iran, and had decimated the top echelon of Iran’s military commanders and nuclear scientists.

The officials, who included President Masoud Pezeshkian, the heads of the judiciary and the intelligence ministry and senior military commanders, arrived in separate cars. None of them carried mobile phones, knowing that Israeli intelligence could track them.

Despite all the precautions, Israeli jets dropped six bombs on top of the bunker soon after the meeting began, targeting the two entrance and exit doors. Remarkably, nobody in the bunker was killed. When the leaders later made their way out of the bunker, they found the bodies of a few guards, killed by the blasts.

The attack threw Iran’s intelligence apparatus into a tailspin, and soon enough Iranian officials discovered a devastating security lapse: The Israelis had been led to the meeting by hacking the phones of bodyguards who had accompanied the Iranian leaders to the site and waited outside.

Israel’s tracking of the guards has not been previously reported. It was one part of a larger effort to penetrate the most tightly guarded circles of Iran’s security and intelligence apparatus that has had officials in Tehran chasing shadows for two months.

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they are probably leaking it since Iran discovered it. if this attack had been successful the war could have been much much worse for Iran.

they don't need to all meet in person. stick to encrypted hard line comms and separate secret discrete locations.

Do you remember I told you about this exactly when you reacted to Shadmani's daughter that said her dad didn't even have a cellphone?

All it takes for someone's location to be leaked is one weak link in their entire network of contacts.

 

[Immortals]

never really understood the logic that MALE drones could fly freely around central Iran but Israeli jets could not

MALE/HALE drones that can carry a decent payload have detectable RCS and their slow steady speeds gives them away that they aren’t natural phenomena (a bird for example). Plus all those bombs on the pylons would raise RCS only higher. So logically drones couldn’t have been bombing Iran freely, maybe border regions with weak radar spotting, but not near Tehran and other major cities.

Then there is the BM excuse, which again doesn’t explain the pinpoint strikes, if Israeli BMs can hit within 1-2 meters from hundreds of KMs away then someone should give them the noble prize for doing something Iran couldn’t after 20 years of missile engineering.

My best guess: F-35s were exploiting holes in Iranian IADS. The 6 bombs makes sense because they likely were in full stealth mode (3-4 jet formation no external pylons or tanks) so each jet dropping 2 big bombs and then flying thru Azerbaijan (no real radar system capability) then Armenia (even worse) and back into Iraq thru northern Iran/Turkey border.

They were likely being refueled by a rotation of Israeli and American tankers near the Syria/Iraq border before they would enter iran.


And this is why you needed an interceptor force, because if that interceptor force could enter Iraq they could detect these tankers and lob BVR missiles at them and disrupt intrusion attempts by Israeli fighters and drones.

But of course for so many years the copium on this board was that “100 missiles would flatten any Israeli airbase and halt their sorties”. Yeah we saw what I always feared —miserable performance from Iranian missiles. Needing to fire 300 missiles to get <10 impacts is not a viable strategy.

I actually have a video clip of family members filming an Iranian missile salvo from Tehran during the war and one of the missiles failing before even leaving Iranian airspace. So who knows how many missiles simply failed in route due to poor QC. Even American and Russian missiles fail at 15-30% rate.

 

[Persian Gulf]

So logically drones couldn’t have been bombing Iran freely, maybe border regions with weak radar spotting, but not near Tehran and other major cities.

multiple MALE drones were downed over central Iran

they hit many missile launchers with drone strikes