India Lucky Not To Lose More Than Four Rafales

[side-winder]

Very much agreed. The AWACS aircraft in question has been repaired.

No. 18 and 19 Squadrons may need to an inventory check or two.....

Both statements not true Sir.
I am surprised - even the people who actually have some contacts in PAF still don't have access to facts.

 

[Hayabusa]

Both statements not true Sir.
I am surprised - even the people who actually have some contacts in PAF still don't have access to facts.

I wanted to ask you this.

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Was it true that Pakistan struckt Srinagar after attacking their S-400?

It's quite a huge deal if it's true because it shows PAF ability to go on the offensive at the LOC as well.

 

[Areesh]

I'd like to think that the soldier on the other side of the border also has courage, dignity, pride and integrity. Just because we are naturally inclined to fighting and hence can hold our own, it does us little benefit to belittle our enemies.

Even many Indians consider IAF to be the most pathetic bunch of losers among all the three forces

I don't know what is this Pakistani habit of not calling enemy what it actually is and keep sugarcoating calling them professional and all that nonsense

 

[Areesh]

Both statements not true Sir.
I am surprised - even the people who actually have some contacts in PAF still don't have access to facts.

I love the way some Pakistani members post whatever they want to just to get some likes on this forum. Particularly in front of disingenuous indians like @Vkdindian1 who still is confused that whether his government and his airforce are lying through their teeth or not

 

[Areesh]

No. 18 and 19 Squadrons may need to run an inventory check or two.....

So PAF lost jft and f16 at bholari

Even iaf didn't claim that

 

[side-winder]

I wanted to ask you this.

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Was it true that Pakistan struckt Srinagar after attacking their S-400?

It's quite a huge deal if it's true because it shows PAF ability to go on the offensive at the LOC as well.

Yes - PAF did launch munitions at Srinagar among other number of IAF bases.

However, didn't go into their airspace so as to actually fly over Srinagar.

 

[Vkdindian1]

So PAF lost jft and f16 at bholari

Even iaf didn't claim that

Hurting is it? I never claimed it.

Let me also analyse your copious use of the word “SHAMELESS”. You have been quite emotive about it and trying to perch up on a very high tree without looking at your own past.

I agree that it is shameless display by India for not declaring the exact numbers lost. I AGREE.

BUT, similar or worst SHAMLESS lies have been told by your establishment time and again. But, you would never accept it since you appear to be a fanboy/bhaktora.

A little off topic (apologies @mods), but Kargil is not so far back that fanboys have completely forgotten about it. Musharraf and team never accepted the shahadat of your soldiers for a couple of years. They had claimed that only Mujahids were involved for quite some time. But that must be a masterstroke of strategy and SHAME wasn’t involved at all.

ISPR during the recent skirmish, shamelessly lied through it’s teeth, that India was launching ballistic missiles at its own cities. It must be a truth to you, a bhaktora aka fanboy.

So, don’t get excited, take it easy and come down from your perch. It may come to bite you back in no time.

 

[side-winder]

I love the way some Pakistani members post whatever they want to just to get some likes on this forum. Particularly in front of disingenuous indians like @Vkdindian1 who still is confused that whether his government and his airforce are lying through their teeth or not

JF 17 / F-16 stories are not true. The damage to SAAB however is also underplayed.

 

[Areesh]

Hurting is it? I never claimed it.

Let me also analyse your copious use of the word “SHAMELESS”. You have been quite emotive about it and trying to perch up on a very high tree without looking at your own past.

I agree that it is shameless display by India for not declaring the exact numbers lost. I AGREE.

BUT, similar or worst SHAMLESS lies have been told by your establishment time and again. But, you would never accept it since you appear to be a fanboy/bhaktora.

A little off topic (apologies @mods), but Kargil is not so far back that fanboys have completely forgotten about it. Musharraf and team never accepted the shahadat of your soldiers for a couple of years. They had claimed that only Mujahids were involved for quite some time. But that must be a masterstroke of strategy and SHAME wasn’t involved at all.

ISPR during the recent skirmish, shamelessly lied through it’s teeth, that India was launching ballistic missiles at its own cities. It must be a truth to you, a bhaktora aka fanboy.

So, don’t get excited, take it easy and come down from your perch. It may come to bite you back in no time.

Your shameless government and it's lackey aka indian military is yet to officially acknowledge even a single aircraft loss even after four months even though there are wreckages of at least four aircraft available all over the internet and from BBC to Reuters to al Jazeera everyone has confirmed multiple aircraft losses

Instead of running to Kargil ask your government and your military to have some dignity and tell you guys about the aircraft you lost since it is your tax money with which those aircraft were bought

All the discussion is useless now if your government continues to hide its losses and claims fake kills just like that F16 one in 2019

 

[TAC]

Hurting is it? I never claimed it.

Let me also analyse your copious use of the word “SHAMELESS”. You have been quite emotive about it and trying to perch up on a very high tree without looking at your own past.

I agree that it is shameless display by India for not declaring the exact numbers lost. I AGREE.

BUT, similar or worst SHAMLESS lies have been told by your establishment time and again. But, you would never accept it since you appear to be a fanboy/bhaktora.

A little off topic (apologies @mods), but Kargil is not so far back that fanboys have completely forgotten about it. Musharraf and team never accepted the shahadat of your soldiers for a couple of years. They had claimed that only Mujahids were involved for quite some time. But that must be a masterstroke of strategy and SHAME wasn’t involved at all.

ISPR during the recent skirmish, shamelessly lied through it’s teeth, that India was launching ballistic missiles at its own cities. It must be a truth to you, a bhaktora aka fanboy.

So, don’t get excited, take it easy and come down from your perch. It may come to bite you back in no time.

You’re the only one who seems to be in real pain.
Go back far enough and u can dig examples of everything for everyone, taking your example of Kargil, didn’t India face a coffin shortage during that conflict? Did it declare all the associated casualties? And I’m sure Pakistan has done similar things at some stage. But that’s not the point, point is this thread and these discussions are about the May 2025 conflict not Kargil, 1965, 1971 or anything else.
Fact is in the May 2025, Indian leadership’s behaviour & claims including the AC’s can appropriately be described as ‘shameless’ .
As for India targeting Sikh sites, no idea who’s telling the truth on that one. Has it been proved iether way or were they stray / unintended, no idea, perhaps someone has more info but again not for this thread.

 

[TAC]

JF 17 / F-16 stories are not true. The damage to SAAB however is also underplayed.

What does underplayed mean? Described as damaged and relatively easily repairable by ISPR and seniors on this site, so is that the case or not? Would appreciate as close to the truth as u can share.

 

[side-winder]

ISPR during the recent skirmish, shamelessly lied through it’s teeth, that India was launching ballistic missiles at its own cities. It must be a truth to you, a bhaktora aka fanboy.

Hahahaha.

You won't believe but it's actually true. Missiles were fired from indian side on 8th May and between 0000-0100 hrs on 10th may before the IAF's attack on Nur Khan. There are tons of "interception" videos on indian twitter handles claiming interceptions of Pakistani IRBMs / MRBMs.

Whereas until that - Pakistan had not fired any missile towards India. The ISPR also showed some radar tracks. Which ofcourse you will dismiss as propaganda - it's fine.

But it's true - i am 100% certain on this thing. So much crazy shit was going on BETWEEN 7th may and Indian attacks on our Bases on 10th - Which most of people have very little or absolutely no knowledge about



Just one such example:

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[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

dont laugh at this please

this video was made way back!

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[side-winder]

What does underplayed mean? Described as damaged and relatively easily repairable by ISPR and seniors on this site, so is that the case or not? Would appreciate as close to the truth as u can share.

Bro - do you think exact details should be shared here or at any public platform?

It's not "easily repairable" - enough said.

 

[Gripen9]

"Has Panzerkiel, side winder , lion, arslank, (now thag @aeromerix is back ) , and a few others said anything?".
....this is the way, literally on here just to read what these guys talk about. Used to be a few more folks over the years, across the different forums.. rashid, tps47? If I remember his name correctly,

TPS77 and Rashid Mahmood (Navy guy)