Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Kyussis]

It won't get to that point now.
This regime will not survive 2026 without nuclear weapons.

Been hearing this since 1979!

 

[ShapurII]

Been hearing this since 1979!

You didn't say your solution So, what is your solution? Are you happy with the status quo?

Yeah, you also said for years that the US will not do a damn thing.
They killed Gen. Soleimani in Iraq, openly called him a terrorist in an official statement by Trump and accepted responsibility for it, and instead of Entegham-e Sakht, you publicly stated that you never intended to threaten Trump and you begged him for a deal and negotiated with the Americans.

You said Israel would never dare to attack Iran. They attacked Iran, killed over a thousand Iranians, killed the generals of the IRGC and the US destroyed our nuclear program, the same Fordow that you claimed could not be destroyed is now nothing but a pile of debris. You said you would leave the NPT, but you don't dare to. Where do you think this is going to?

You were warned that if Iran does not respond to Israel's attack on Tehran, it will lead to war. You laughed. Keep laughing, bro. As they say "نشاشیده شب درازه". We will see.

 

[Liquidator]

instead of complaining and insulting others people should challenge views they disagree with and present more compelling arguments

I never censor pro or anti IRI rhetoric as long as it abides by the rules, as it should be

Indeed

Anyway

What is the prevailing thought in Iran about these sanctions? Is it a big a deal as the westerners are making it out to be?

 

[Kyussis]

What is your solution?
Pretend that everything is fine and remain happy with the status quo where we are humiliated, impoverished and sanctioned, and militarily attacked and killed in thousands?

I only solution is to stay the course and strengthen ourselves and our partnerships with world powers who are under the same threat from these deranged zio occupied Americans as we are. I Think the only thing that overthrowing the Islamic republic will due is to make sure that we once again become a vassal state of U.S imperial power, just like we were under Mohammad reza pahlavi. Some here would love that because "the Dollar was 7 toman" and that we were allowed to buy any weapon system the west were willing to sell us. Sure but only if it serves U.S ?Israeli interest. To me that would makes us no different than the Saudis who are armed to the teeth to defend Israel from Ansarallah missile strikes but when Aramco was attacked By Ansarallah those same systems where of no help at all!

 

[ShapurII]

I only solution is to stay the course and strengthen ourselves and our partnerships with world powers who are under the same threat from these deranged zio occupied Americans as we are. I Think the only thing that overthrowing the Islamic republic will due is to make sure that we once again become a vassal state of U.S imperial power, just like we were under Mohammad reza pahlavi. Some here would love that because "the Dollar was 7 toman" and that we were allowed to buy any weapon system the west were willing to sell us. Sure but only if it serves U.S ?Israeli interest. To me that would makes us no different than the Saudis who are armed to the teeth to defend Israel from Ansarallah missile strikes but when Aramco was attacked By Ansarallah those same systems where of no help at all!

So, your solution is to stay the course? Meaning that you're happy with the status quo, right? You think we're on the right track?

 

[Kyussis]

You didn't say your solution So, what is your solution? Are you happy with the status quo?

Yeah, you also said for years that the US will not do a damn thing.
They killed Gen. Soleimani in Iraq, openly called him a terrorist in an official statement by Trump and accepted responsibility for it, and instead of Entegham-e Sakht, you publicly stated that you never intended to threaten Trump and you begged him for a deal and negotiated with the Americans.

I said that? When?

You said Israel would never dare to attack Iran. They attacked Iran, killed over a thousand Iranians, killed the generals of the IRGC and the US destroyed our nuclear program, the same Fordow that you claimed could not be destroyed is now nothing but a pile of debris. You said you would leave the NPT, but you don't dare to. Where do you think this is going to?

Again when have I made any statements in regards to the NPT?

You were warned that if Iran does not respond to Israel's attack on Tehran, it will lead to war. You laughed. Keep laughing, bro. As they say "نشاشیده شب درازه". We will see.

When did I endorse Iran not responding to Israel's attack in Tehran when Pezeshkian was fooled by the U.S into not acting because he thought there was a cease fire coming?

You are attributing things to me that I never said and am in no position to effect.

 

[Kyussis]

There is a limit on the emojis that we are able to use and the laughing emoji is the only one that I can use to show dissatisfaction to posts that I don't agree with.

 

[ShapurII]

I said that? When?

Again when have I made any statements in regards to the NPT?

When did I endorse Iran not responding to Israel's attack in Tehran when Pezeshkian was fooled by the U.S into not acting because he thought there was a cease fire coming?

You are attributing things to me that I never said and am in no position to effect.

"You" refers to people with your line of thinking.

Unfortunately, the English language does not differentiate between you (singular) and you (plural). My point is that you guys underestimated the dangerous situation that we were in and continue to underestimate the severity of the danger we are facing now.

 

[ShapurII]

There is a limit on the emojis that we are able to use and the laughing emoji is the only one that I can use to show dissatisfaction to posts that I don't agree with.

Yes, we really need a thumb down emoji. Maybe you should suggest it to the admins.
@Waz @WebMaster @Musings

 

[Persian Gulf]

Man 3 thousand of posts all intended to undermine Iranian military and intelligence.

What do you expect from me? I don't have the time to reply to every post like a jobless jack. But i can read as much as my carrier and personal life allows me to.

The thread is beyond pathetic and a show of anti Iranian hatred. Hundreds of pages of advocating regime change. Only retarded Shah-parast losers would say such non sense.

And you specifically are responsible for this immense show of hatred towards Iran and Iranians. Why? I got no idea at the moment.

others are free to express their views within the rules. if they break the rules, you can report them, as you and others do. I can't just impose one point of view on everyone, that is not how a forum works. I never deleted or censored your posts unfairly, I hope you will agree.

 

[Kyussis]

"You" refers to people with your line of thinking.

Unfortunately, the English language does not differentiate between you (singular) and you (plural). My point is that you guys underestimated the dangerous situation that we were in and continue to underestimate the severity of the danger we are facing now.

I don't underestimate the U.S and Israel's determination in taking down Iran. I just don't think that turning against Ayatollah Khamenei and the IRGC will do anything except aid the enemy in their goal of destroying Iran from within. I don't believe that Israel and the U.S can conquer Iran militarily as long as Iranians remain united and the biggest threat I see to Iran is disunity proposed by those who call for regime change at a time that the lines need to be held.

 

[BigMela2onin]

I only solution is to stay the course and strengthen ourselves and our partnerships with world powers who are under the same threat from these deranged zio occupied Americans as we are. I Think the only thing that overthrowing the Islamic republic will due is to make sure that we once again become a vassal state of U.S imperial power, just like we were under Mohammad reza pahlavi. Some here would love that because "the Dollar was 7 toman" and that we were allowed to buy any weapon system the west were willing to sell us. Sure but only if it serves U.S ?Israeli interest.

What difference does it make, Iranians can't run a modern country. How many more decades or centuries of decline do we need to see to accept that?
And making friends with our world powers? Forget it, all the west has to do is make a couple of reconciliatory statements and Iran will drop everything with Russia and China to go kiss the feet that kick them. Iranians never learn and will continue getting played by the simplest tricks.

To me that would makes us no different than the Saudis who are armed to the teeth to defend Israel from Ansarallah missile strikes but when Aramco was attacked By Ansarallah those same systems where of no help at all!

At least the arabs have the sense to let someone who knows how run their governments. Iranians are just as useless at statecraft and diplomacy.

 

[Sarhang]

@Persian Gulf
Unlike you, I'm starting to believe that something even bigger than the 12-day battle is being cooked.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115282009590636281

This is obviously about Iran. Greatness in the Middle East cannot have anything to do with a small place like Gaza for sure. They might even be preparing for a ground invasion of Iran, or at least the invasion of our islands in the Persian Gulf as a starting point.

Trump is known for making grand claims. Right now the IR isnt making any provocative moves that would push the West to consider such drastic actions.

If I were IR i would lay low and stay quiet as a mouse for the next three years.

 

[FUB]

It looks like the U.S is getting ready to start the next phase of the war. The order was given by their masters .

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[ShapurII]

I don't underestimate the U.S and Israel's determination in taking down Iran. I just don't think that turning against Ayatollah Khamenei and the IRGC will do anything except aid the enemy in their goal of destroying Iran from within. I don't believe that Israel and the U.S can conquer Iran militarily as long as Iranians remain united and the biggest threat I see to Iran is disunity proposed by those who call for regime change at a time that the lines need to be held.

It's hard to remain united when people have become impoverished by 2 decades of sanctions and feel absolutely humiliated by the empty words and inaction of the people leading their country.