Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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TruthSeeker
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I apologize. I didn't realize my source was MEK, a terrorist organisation. I do honestly respect your desire to not give voice to Iranian traitors.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
thank you for your understanding
PakAl
Elite Member
Iran has no choice but to submit, the whole western world is after them and the zionist and Muslim zionists have a sword on Iranian neck. Iranian leadership must be realising all those big anti Usa and Zionist statements are finally hurting them, the economy is in shambles, airforce non existence, navy non existence, missile force is decent but failed to protect Iran during 12 days war and another war is around the corner. Iran as someone suggested is buying time but the western world also knows this, slowly they are tightening the noose.
The positive for Iran is China Russia have used some diplomatic pressure to defend Iran, Pakistan for some reason was being aggressive, so they have some support in this part of the world and have those who don't want Iran to be destroyed, the economic interests are another advantage. If only Iran is willing to tone down their aggressive stance to a diplomatic one, continue to work with international players on nuclear energy, then slowly win Chinese Russian support to remove sanctions, build a good military force to defend themselves. I can't see any other way out for Iran.
ShapurII
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This is getting so boring. Every time they're attacked, they perform poorly and their excuse is next time we will give a tough response.
Didn't they claim there will be no Israel after TP3? Last time I checked, Israel is pretty much intact after TP3. It's still there.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
this seems to be the approach
signed $25 billion deal with Russia for 4 new nuclear power plants
improving relations with China
less provocative statements in recent months, avoid pissing off Trump more than necessary and strong focus on international law etc
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
remember after Israel's response to TP2 Hajizadeh said we are keeping TP3 in reserve because we don't want to waste the opportunity
that didn't age well. Iran and its allies think they have a lot of time to do what they want while in reality their enemies are consistently a few steps ahead and quicker.
ShapurII
Trusted Member
I don't entirely disagree with your comment that Iran stands no chance of winning this without nuclear deterrence, but there is no diplomatic solution to this problem.
It is either unconditional surrender and defeat, or resistance and madman policy.
If it were up to me, I would've chosen the madman policy until the West decides to reach a new deal. Iran has the best card against the West due to its location, but the Ayatollahs are too stupid to take advantage of it.
BigMela2onin
Registered Member
Then where are these 6 tankers going and for what purpose? The last attach was prelude by mass movements of tankers like this.
Shafagh
Registered Member
If Iran gets out of this without being invaded nor torn apart by ethnic separatists, then it's a win. The nation that stood intact against zog and they could never invade nor break it up. Even if we end up signing peace with Israel. I don't like it, but we would go down in history as the only country to smack them around harshly and live.
AZADPAKISTAN2009
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With new BRICs currency in works any talk of sanction is useless , because BRICs will do financial transaction outside the scope of Old Financial model
- India already closed deal for $111 Million Dollars of oil with Iran
- Russia/China will continue to benefit from Oil from Iran
Mig 29 Aquired by Iran
Reading Iran has started to receive Mig29 from Russia
The batch planes are in addition to Sukhoi-35 , the count was not disclosed
SUKHOI-35 will arrive soon
www.iranintl.com
- India already closed deal for $111 Million Dollars of oil with Iran
- Russia/China will continue to benefit from Oil from Iran
Mig 29 Aquired by Iran
Reading Iran has started to receive Mig29 from Russia
The batch planes are in addition to Sukhoi-35 , the count was not disclosed
SUKHOI-35 will arrive soon
Iran receives Russian MiG-29 jets, expects more advanced systems, lawmaker says
Russian MiG-29 fighter jets have arrived in Iran as part of a short-term plan to bolster its air force, with more advanced Sukhoi Su-35 aircraft to follow gradually, an Iranian lawmaker said on Tuesday.
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ShapurII
Trusted Member
Not necessarily. It might delay the inevitable at the cost of so many lives.
We need some sort of deterrence to keep things together. I don't think the West would give Iran an easy way out.
Immortals
Elite Member
It’s actually the only way Iran will ever be integrated into Western world.
This isn’t about nuclear weapons, missiles, etc. because Saudi Arabia and Turkey have both nuclear production (and Saudi Arabia is asking for enrichment on its soil) and longer and longer missile development programs.
This is about Iran not recognizing Israel.
Iran’s foreign policy was not shrewd or covert at the onset of Revolution. Israel actually sold Iran arms during the Iran-Iraq war and so did the U.S. but Iran was vehement against any sort of detente with either party let alone economic prosperity.
If Iran never took US embassy hostages and never explicitly was hostile toward Israel, it could have first built up its economy (and military) until it was powerful enough and so integrated into the world economy that cutting it off would be like cutting of your own arm. Then it could set its own foreign policy. But by showing your hand from the onset that you think America is the DEVIL and Israel is apartheid then what did you expect? You don’t think China thinks the same? But at least Chinese have more than two brain cells to know you can’t build your country when you are overtly hostile and you don’t have the upper hand.
Instead, from the onset Iran forced the US to decouple from Iran in 1980 and forced Europe to decouple in early 2000’s. Now you see what that result has brought. No resistance economy, no pivot East, no nothing. Domestic Currency is 100x weaker than 20 years ago.
This is why religious fanatics shouldn’t be involved in geopolitics.
So what Trump says isn’t far fetched. As long as Iran doesn’t accept Israel, it will stay under this sanctions and maybe even future wars. I am not saying recognizing Israel will get Iran free or prosperity, but not recognizing Israel means no deal will ever be made with a Republican president.
BigMela2onin
Registered Member
Harfe moft mizane, they will force it after they finish off IR. It will not be voluntary. This is him saying the US goal is now regime change.
Then they will infiltrate your society, impose debt slavery on the populace and internally destroy our culture.
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