Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[925boy]

You didn't answer the question.
Name one thing that Khamenei has done against Russian interests in his 30 years of reign.

Russia has been the worst enemy of Iran throughout history. Even in recent history, last 20 years, no country has betrayed Iran more than Russia. Yet, the relations with Russia remain strong and "strategic". How do you explain that?

So current Iran should take out its frustrations with old Russia on modern Russia?

This only makes sense if you are stuck in history and cant see past historical problems between Russia and Iran.

 

[The SC]

2nd Round seems about to start days from now. If I were IRGC commanders I'll do preemptive strikes to strike when all their forces are still not in place. Seize the strategic initiative and never let up until inflict unimaginable casualties on their militaries.

In brief for you.. because deep strike missions for the Americans, and whoever has experienced a military collision with them, it's difficult to limit it to one scenario...The arsenal they have has enough flexibility to deal with any targets, whatever their nature.

What will be the sequence of hitting goals, the first, second, third wave... Cruise missile strikes from the sea only or jointly with the air. This is determined by their Data banks, weapons arsenal, launch pads, ISR, and available theater of operations.

This figure shows what can be used in the air:



JASSM-ER Official range: 600 km to 1000 km, with their arsenal: 1000 advanced JASSM missiles and 2000 regular JASSM missiles with a range of 370 km, the B-2 carries 16 (and the B-52 approximately 20). In the case of the B2, you are in front of a Stealthy "carrier and carried" ; the bomber and the missile, and the launch from a very safe distance, very long stand off!!

Their new calculations are differed, mixed and are not comparable to their previous major air campaigns in the Gulf and Yugoslav wars... Every time it was modified as their armament developed... This allows the B-52 to participate in the first strike or bombing waves... If they decide to.

Each style has its advantages and weaknesses ... Cruise low -height from a well -known source; naval platforms at sea and their locations and its paths if the Iranians are a little bit of this calculation, it can be shot down in fairly good numbers ... but from the air, the missile's stealth feature, as well as a geographical important point with the air platform, where it is possible to fly from any direction 360 degrees around Iran, launch from unexpected places, and follow unpredictable paths that are not covered by Iranian air defenses...Therefore, if the strike takes place, it is not unlikely that it will be simultaneous from the air and sea, and the scenarios are multiple for many reasons... I mentioned just part of it....

 

[Takayoshi]

Will the acquisition of several squadrons of Su-35 by Iran have any effect in deterrence against Israeli and Western attacks? Or is it rather a symbolic projection of power?

 

[925boy]

Having your capital that freely bombed with no restrictions other than how quickly can you get your bombs over Tehran, is not winning.

Kiev is getting bombed daily but technically Ukraine hasn't lost its war yet, so this logic is redundant.

 

[A1Kaid]

Many signs pointing to another Israeli attack on Iran very soon, the goal being ‘regime change’.

I’m starting to suspect the Israelis will try to cut off water to Tehran or use water as a weapon. It will be like a siege.

The Institute for the Study of War has recently published water supply map of Tehran, as if signaling a veiled threat.

Tehran already is facing a water shortage amidst a growing population.

Netanyahu actually talked about Israel’s water recycling technology and how it could benefit the people of Iran.

The next war could be fatal for one side.

In fact, I think Israel has covert paramilitary planted inside Iran.

 

[925boy]

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IR will respond with negotiations and one sided concessions and will be bombed anyways just as Syria and Qatar are.

Iran may allow US and Israel to bomb her, but Iran will never allow them to impose war on Iran. Just watch.

 

[kastor ville]

After reading the last few pages....I'd like to say something, Iran/Ayatollah had the right idea, or at least he was on the right track that the world is fked up because of the US/UK and Israel. the IRI's issue/fault was their lack of acumen, experience and execution....seriously, this needs to be understood, these 3 countries control the entire narrative of war and peace, terror and justice, they're influencing everything....we saw them clearly for who they are when the ICJ went after Netanyahoo, they tried to dismantle the court they setup themselves!! The court that was meant to go after Asians, Eastern Europeans and Latin American, African govt officials. Of course there were many signs before the genocide and the Palestinian issue, but every other trespass had a cover story to obscure their action for the John Q Public to get confused. The shift happened with social media, all of a sudden a poster was as powerful as CNN or BBC.
This maybe a bad time for Iran, but I say this, this is a worst time for the Western elites and their Zio masters.....the electronic intifada is just beginning, I see it in the US, people are questioning the govt's motives and policy like no other time in my life. Martin Luther King was right....the arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Total destruction of business heart & energy fields of GCC can be the only solution in case of US attack. We should take the rest with us and let energy prices explode, their investmens, military bases go to hell if they plan to genocide Iranians. Qatar got a warning already.

That's why the Arabs are hiring the Pakistan mercenaries and nukes for boots

 

[Khansaheeb]

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[Khansaheeb]

Iran may allow US and Israel to bomb her, but Iran will never allow them to impose war on Iran. Just watch.

Isn't that Iraq said before they got demolished?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Will the acquisition of several squadrons of Su-35 by Iran have any effect in deterrence against Israeli and Western attacks? Or is it rather a symbolic projection of power?

If those su35 can take out Israel aerial refueller support, then yes…

 

[Farhan23]

This is starting to become common knowledge.

Indeed. there are plenty of evidence

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

They would be so incredibly pissed that you would regret your own existence. GCC would re-invade Iran and never leave again for another centuries like the Rashidun, Ummayyid and Abbasid era. Involving them in a conflict they are not a party to will rough their feathers and piss them of like they have never been. They will overrun the republic forget the GCC, Jordanians or Egyptians before their ground forces even reach you the Syrians alone will punch right thru into Iran. A known enemy who is familiar with Iran and loves nothing more then to throw down such an attack on Arab soil will be the last straw that will rise them up for good.

One thing the world should learn is to stay far far away from the Abrahamic children (GCC and Jordan) their political power and influence is extremely underrated.. The only one capable of starting even WW3 because they are the heart of the world sitting on the holy lands and the true geographical center

They are party to the war and pressure and aggression against both Iran, Palestinians and Yemen.
If you dont see that it means you dont want to see it. They are supporting the genocide (UAE), giving bases to French, UK, Americans (UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi) and pressuring/buying off Somalia (UAE) to vote against Iran to reintroducte the UN snapback sanctions.

But if Iran does retaliate in case of US attack, it should done together with Yemen (Houthis), not all alone. If GCC invaded Iran, 80 million Iranians with military experience, knowing how to handle weapons should fight and kill them through sniper and drone attacks (like how Hamas fights the genocidal invaders).

Syrians have not liberated their own areas yet from YPG/PYD, Zionists, Druze, US, Russians. Syria is more divided and occupied than ever and than before.

Also Iraqis will confront them, they cant enter through Iraq or by Sea. Dont even start about loser-Jordanians (Israeli bufferstate). The Egyptians and Moroccan snake charmers/monkey performers have a bad memory about Yemen and are not motivated or interested for new adventures.

There is no Abrahamic power, its a TOTAL joke. Even their biggest power, Zionia/Israel, is nothing without USA. Its just a proxy of NATO to kill other abrahamics. The only true forces are localized, namely the Houthis and Hamas, that's it. Even Hezbollah did not show the strenght which we would love to see against Zionia and hope for.

 

[ToddE]

They would be so incredibly pissed that you would regret your own existence. GCC would re-invade Iran and never leave again for another centuries like the Rashidun, Ummayyid and Abbasid era. Involving them in a conflict they are not a party to will rough their feathers and piss them of like they have never been. They will overrun the republic forget the GCC, Jordanians or Egyptians before their ground forces even reach you the Syrians alone will punch right thru into Iran. A known enemy who is familiar with Iran and loves nothing more then to throw down such an attack on Arab soil will be the last straw that will rise them up for good.

One thing the world should learn is to stay far far away from the Abrahamic children (GCC and Jordan) their political power and influence is extremely underrated.. The only one capable of starting even WW3 because they are the heart of the world sitting on the holy lands and the true geographical center

Iran in its ~3000 years of empire history starting from Elam, has spent roughly 120 years under effective Arab control. That itself came from internal power struggles and weakness due to centuries of wars against the other superpower of that time , east Romans/Byzantines. Rest of these millennia which is more than 2 dozen centuries, it either directly or indirectly controlled Arabs under Aryan Persian Empires or later under Iranian Turkic Empires or just stayed a non party Post Ottoman-Qizilbash Age, that if we exclude Khamenei led IRI's control of buffer Arab states (Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon) from 2000s to 2020s.

Iranian intermezzo i.e. re-establishment of Iranian dynasties outof Arab control started right after Umayyads (late 7th century). Later ever since my kind entered West Asia (Oghuz Turks) in 11th century, Arabs again became Vassals of Iranians and Turkish for next 600+ years. There is a reason that Arabian Haplogroup J M267 is not even 3% in Iran and Turkish Populations but Irano-Turkic R1/R2/J2 is all over the Arabian plateau in high % including in the heart of Saudi Arabia. I have nothing against Arabs, they are fellow middle eastern people to us but history cant be changed.

@Persian Gulf Please control Derailing/Trolling in the thread.

 

[ToddE]

If IRI and EU reach an agreement, there is a high chance Israel and its controlled Republican US will attack Iran to sabotage EU's plan of getting back at US for not supporting Ukraine against Russia. Any attack on Iran will push IRI to either re-start HEU enrichment or completely give up enrichment, both will remove IRI from EU's diplomatic table as a bargaining chip EU against US for involvement in Russia-Ukraine theater.