GriffinsRule
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Interesting. How would that alert the Mig though, or is it due to using the radar to que the seeker?
PAF F-16 | Discussions
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Faani83
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NS saying Pakistan asked for Turkish F16(Dont know if he means paf 16s upgraded in Turkey or buying used Tuaf f16s) at 3.10) in this video…..https://youtu.be/dcWzTbc1ZfY?si=AeekfInDOvukeBNQ
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Fatman17
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Today in F-16 history
6 Oct 1990
The US embargoes F-16 deliveries to Pakistan, and a total of 28 Pakistan F-16A/B block 15OCU aircraft are put in flyable hold storage in the Sonoran desert.
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6 Oct 1990
The US embargoes F-16 deliveries to Pakistan, and a total of 28 Pakistan F-16A/B block 15OCU aircraft are put in flyable hold storage in the Sonoran desert.
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Yasser76
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PAF getting either the C8 or D3 AMRAAM!!!!!
Raytheon Co., Tucson, Arizona, was awarded a $41,681,329 firm-fixed-price modification (P00026) to a previously awarded contract (FA8675-23-C-0037) for Advance Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles C8 and D3 variants and the production thereof. The modification brings the total cumulative face value of the contract to $2,512,389,558 from $2,470,708,229. Work will be performed at Tucson, Arizona, and is expected to be completed by May 30, 2030. This contract involves foreign military sales to United Kingdom, Poland, Pakistan, Germany, Finland, Australia, Romania, Qatar, Oman, Korea, Greece, Switzerland, Portugal, Singapore, Netherlands, Czech Republic, Japan, Slovakia, Denmark, Canada, Belgium, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Italy, Norway, Spain, Kuwait, Finland, Sweden, Taiwan, Lithuania, Isreal, Bulgaria, Hungary, and Turkey. Fiscal 2025 Navy weapons procurement funds in the amount of $7,603,828; fiscal 2025 Air Force operation and maintenance funds in the amount of $10,742,268; and Foreign Military Sales funds in the amount of $9,164,126, are being obligated at the time of award. The Air Force Life Cycle Management Center weapons superiority contracting branch, Robins Air Force Base, Georgia, is the contracting activity.
https://www.war.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/4319114/
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Raytheon Co., Tucson, Arizona, was awarded a $41,681,329 firm-fixed-price modification (P00026) to a previously awarded contract (FA8675-23-C-0037) for Advance Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles C8 and D3 variants and the production thereof. The modification brings the total cumulative face value of the contract to $2,512,389,558 from $2,470,708,229. Work will be performed at Tucson, Arizona, and is expected to be completed by May 30, 2030. This contract involves foreign military sales to United Kingdom, Poland, Pakistan, Germany, Finland, Australia, Romania, Qatar, Oman, Korea, Greece, Switzerland, Portugal, Singapore, Netherlands, Czech Republic, Japan, Slovakia, Denmark, Canada, Belgium, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Italy, Norway, Spain, Kuwait, Finland, Sweden, Taiwan, Lithuania, Isreal, Bulgaria, Hungary, and Turkey. Fiscal 2025 Navy weapons procurement funds in the amount of $7,603,828; fiscal 2025 Air Force operation and maintenance funds in the amount of $10,742,268; and Foreign Military Sales funds in the amount of $9,164,126, are being obligated at the time of award. The Air Force Life Cycle Management Center weapons superiority contracting branch, Robins Air Force Base, Georgia, is the contracting activity.
https://www.war.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/4319114/
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For reference
AIM120D/C8 is the same missile, there is some software differences but both have the same 160km+ range and both are being continuously upgraded.
PAF does it again.
perhaps the large stocks of 120C5 could be used for SLAMRAAM, then the Ds onboard the aircraft.
Or perhaps, we will keep 120c5s for the oldest falcons, then 120Ds for the newer V upgraded ones perhaps?
likely at the end/middle, we were added to a pre-existing contract.
puttputt
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I reckon the PAF"s order is quite small in this contract, no more than 25 units IMHO.
But even so, that would be enough for initial configuration work and training (especially if inert missiles are included). The bare minimum here is that CCS at least gets a very good spec for DACT, but this isn't the bare minimum.
In all likelihood, the PAF did negotiate some type of F-16V deal - at least an upgrade to the Block-52s - and potentially some additional new units with the US recently (ACM Babar visited the US State Department). Regardless of the broader shift to China, the PAF will at least want all of its fighters to be equipped with AESA radars and a more modern AESA-based ECM.
So, we should hear of a bigger AMRAAM deal down the line via DSCA.
But even so, that would be enough for initial configuration work and training (especially if inert missiles are included). The bare minimum here is that CCS at least gets a very good spec for DACT, but this isn't the bare minimum.
In all likelihood, the PAF did negotiate some type of F-16V deal - at least an upgrade to the Block-52s - and potentially some additional new units with the US recently (ACM Babar visited the US State Department). Regardless of the broader shift to China, the PAF will at least want all of its fighters to be equipped with AESA radars and a more modern AESA-based ECM.
So, we should hear of a bigger AMRAAM deal down the line via DSCA.
