PMLN News, Updates and Discussion

[alphapak]

So you can only come up with two people. What about the hundreds of poor Pashtun journalists who got killed in KPK in the last 12+ years? I bet you probably don't know their names! Who was responsible for their security? A genius leader keeps telling us Taliban are "good guys". Lagay raho muna bhai

Can you name all these journalists who were killed and who by?

A genius leader keeps telling us Taliban are "good guys". Lagay raho muna bhai

Who armed these Taliban during Soviet invasion? Who created Taliban?

 

[Cesur]

Can you name all these journalists who were killed and who by?


Who armed these Taliban during Soviet invasion? Who created Taliban?

You have a government there. It should be you who should ask them who they are. There are tons of independent reports.

We are not living in Soviet Union era and to answer your question it wasn't just Pakistan.

 

[alphapak]

You have a government there.

Who is you? I am sat in UK.

 

[Respect4Respect]

So you can only come up with two people. What about the hundreds of poor Pashtun journalists who got killed in KPK in the last 12+ years?

most of them were probably killed by the same people that killed Arshad sharif, Shot Hamid Mir, attacked Matiullah Jan, arrested Asad toor and Orya Mabool Jan? maybe same people that were involved in killing of ex PM Benazir Bhutto and then tried to assassinate another PM IK?

Who was responsible for their security?

who was responsible for the security of 70K Pakistanis that were killed during WoT? who was responsible for protecting Chinese workers working in Balochistan? who is responsible for controlling the borders? how did weapons reach Karachi from KPK, who controls the checkpoints? which institution is supposed to stop smuggling but instead is involved in it?

 

[Cesur]

most of them were probably killed by the same people that killed Arshad sharif, Shot Hamid Mir, attacked Matiullah Jan, arrested Asad toor and Orya Mabool Jan? maybe same people that were involved in killing of ex PM Benazir Bhutto and then tried to assassinate another PM IK?

who was responsible for the security of 70K Pakistanis that were killed during WoT? who was responsible for protecting Chinese workers working in Balochistan? who is responsible for controlling the borders? how did weapons reach Karachi from KPK, who controls the checkpoints? which institution is supposed to stop smuggling but instead is involved in it?

I won't deny some facts. But Let me just say this, with regards to terrorism there was a consistent policy from 2001. The worst one could do is drive a wedge on it and IK was doing just that. He repeatedly refused to appear on APCs and National Action Plan and then to make matters worse he said Afghans had broken shackles of slavery and then went on to free terrorists at home and leaving KPK soft and lawless.

Internationally he was pretty much doing bongiya with every other other foreign leader and Pakistan's reputation was at all time low. He liked Bajwa because he was just like him. While he advocated for peace with Taliban, Bajwa advanced for peace with India and both gave new life to both of our problematic neighbours. They did everything opposite.

I won't go into what the current leadership is doing because there is absolutly no comparison. Clearly Pakistan is having success as a hard state compared to the last 4 years of soft state. Heck I would even say that under Nawaz Sharif/Raheel Sharif violence in Balochistan and Karachi was at all time low. Why? Because he appointed a non feudal/middle class chief minister in Balochistan and in Karachi they gave policing powers to Rangers who cleaned up MQM's terrorist wing.

 

[alphapak]

But Let me just say this, with regards to terrorism there was a consistent policy from 2001. The worst one could do is drive a wedge on it and IK was doing just that. He repeatedly refused to appear on APCs and National Action Plan and then to make matters worse he said Afghans had broken shackles of slavery and then went on to free terrorists at home and leaving KPK soft and lawless.

Who created the Taliban? Who let Osama Bin Laden into the Country? Where
was the Army and Air Force during Abbottabad raid? Who let ehsanullah Ehsan
and Muslim Khan out of prison?

Internationally he was pretty much doing bongiya

Nobody comes out with more bongiyan than you with your bughz Imran.

I won't go into what the current leadership is doing because there is absolutly no comparison. Clearly Pakistan is having success as a hard state compared to the last 4 years of soft state. Heck I would even say that under Nawaz Sharif/Raheel Sharif violence in Balochistan and Karachi was at all time low. Why? Because he appointed a non feudal/middle class chief minister in Balochistan and in Karachi they gave policing powers to Rangers who cleaned up MQM's terrorist wing.

What hard state? There is no law & order in the Country, No quality education and
healthcare for the bloody civilians.

Mota Nawaja has to run away to London just for a check up, at least make a Hospital in
Raiwind where he can check out his tind. Economy is running on IMF loans and India
is waging a water every year, what is Messiah Muneera doing about it?

 

[Respect4Respect]

I won't deny some facts. But Let me just say this, with regards to terrorism there was a consistent policy from 2001. The worst one could do is drive a wedge on it and IK was doing just that. He repeatedly refused to appear on APCs and National Action Plan and then to make matters worse he said Afghans had broken shackles of slavery and then went on to free terrorists at home and leaving KPK soft and lawless.

Internationally he was pretty much doing bongiya with every other other foreign leader and Pakistan's reputation was at all time low. He liked Bajwa because he was just like him. While he advocated for peace with Taliban, Bajwa advanced for peace with India and both gave new life to both of our problematic neighbours. They did everything opposite.

I won't go into what the current leadership is doing because there is absolutly no comparison. Clearly Pakistan is having success as a hard state compared to the last 4 years of soft state. Heck I would even say that under Nawaz Sharif/Raheel Sharif violence in Balochistan and Karachi was at all time low. Why? Because he appointed a non feudal/middle class chief minister in Balochistan and in Karachi they gave policing powers to Rangers who cleaned up MQM's terrorist wing.

nothing will change if you keep sweeping rubbish under the carpet. Before IK’s 4 year term rivers of milk and honey were flowing in Pakistan? Since the year 2000, only three prime ministers and nine army chiefs have served in India, in Faujistan on the other hand, five army chiefs and twelve prime ministers have served.....

there was never any policy regarding terrorism, it was always about the dollars and Musharaff clinging to power. You just helped americans bomb afghanistan the same way egyptians are helping the zionists bomb palestine for dollars.

your second point is just fauji propaganda, IK did an alright job on the international front, and foreign policy always has input from GHQ so if you think Pak didn't perform welll enough, then you gotta blame the generals too.

you are right there is no comparison, fascists cannot be compared a prime minster who actually wanted to improve the lives of ordinary Pakistanis.

 

[Cesur]

Who created the Taliban? Who let Osama Bin Laden into the Country? Where
was the Army and Air Force during Abbottabad raid? Who let ehsanullah Ehsan
and Muslim Khan out of prison?

Did I say everything in the past was perfect? If you are going to witch hunt a few cases here and there like Indians I don't need to respond to you. It is abduntely clear to the whole world that IK has been a consistent sympathizer of Taliban since 2001 or even before that. You just cannot deny that. Since you mentioned Ehsanullah Ehsan do tell me if he is alive or dead because thats what matters at the end.

Nobody comes out with more bongiyan than you with your bughz Imran.

Dude just apply some burnol. He isn't coming out of Adiala anytime soon and no one to rescue him.

What hard state? There is no law & order in the Country, No quality education and
healthcare for the bloody civilians.

Mota Nawaja has to run away to London just for a check up, at least make a Hospital in
Raiwind where he can check out his tind. Economy is running on IMF loans and India
is waging a water every year, what is Messiah Muneera doing about it?

What is the status of healthcare and education in KPK compared to Punjab? We will talk about provinces here due to 18th amendment. Surely you must have some evidence to back up your arrogance.

I'm not going to defend anyone's personal choice. Since this topic is about Punjab do tell me if Peshawar is more developed than a 2nd or even a 3rd tier city of Punjab

 

[Distant_Observer]

Everytime we have this discourse its the same jibberish. What happened 20 years ago. What happened 50 years ago. If only somebody didn't do this 30 years ago things would be different.

Yes we know many people made many mistakes in the distant past. Yes we know all politicians were incredibly corrupt in the past. What's done is done.

What we are talking about is the present and recent past.

Both IK and Bilawal are Oxford educated so they should be capable and of high moral standard. Somebody explain to be what they have achieved in their provinces in the last 10 years?

What has PTI done with KPK in the last 10 years?

 

[alphapak]

Did I say everything in the past was perfect? If you are going to witch hunt a few cases here and there like Indians I don't need to respond to you. It is abduntely clear to the whole world that IK has been a consistent sympathizer of Taliban since 2001. You just cannot deny that. Since you mentioned Ehsanullah Ehsan do tell me if he is alive or dead because thats what matters at the end.

So IK is a Taliban sympathizer but who took the dollars to create Taliban?
Who let Osama into the Country?

Dude just apply some burnol. He isn't coming out of Adiala anytime soon and no one to rescue him.

Do whatever you want with him.

What is the status of healthcare and education in KPK compared to Punjab? Surely you must have some evidence to back up your arrogance.

You tell me, also let us know about Sindh, Baluchistan, GB as well.

 

[Respect4Respect]

You tell me, also let us know about Sindh, Baluchistan, GB as well.

i know many cases where people used IK's health card for treatment, i know one of them personally, that is when he decided to vote for PTI.

 

[alphapak]

i know many cases where people used IK's health card for treatment, i know one of them personally, that is when he decided to vote for PTI.

KPK has Sehat card for every citizen, I wonder if they have this in Punjab or Sindh?

https://sehatsahulat.com.pk/

 

[Cesur]

i know many cases where people used IK's health card for treatment, i know one of them personally, that is when he decided to vote for PTI.

That was a health initiative launched by NS in 2015 which IK renamed it to something else to claim credit.

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif launched on Thursday a state-run health insurance programme and described it as the first step towards making Pakistan a welfare state.

Initially, the initiative has been launched for the benefit of people of Islamabad, but later on it will be expanded to all parts of Punjab, Balochistan and the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata), according to officials. People of Sindh and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa will not benefit from the initiative because their governments have declined to become part of the federal government programme.

PM launches health scheme for the poor

Programme to benefit 3.2m families earning less than $2 a day in 23 districts of Punjab, Balochistan and Fata.

www.dawn.com

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

.

 

[alphapak]

That was a health initiative launched by NS in 2015 which IK renamed it to something else to claim credit.

So everyone in Punjab has a health card? Mota Nawaja should get 1 as well instead
of running away to London for a check up.

Anyone from Punjab can confirm that everyone has a health card?

 

[Respect4Respect]

KPK has Sehat card for every citizen, I wonder if they have this in Punjab or Sindh?

https://sehatsahulat.com.pk/

iirc the sehat card was among the first things the mandate thieves scrapped, along with panahgahs because anything that helps ordinary people is never their priority.