Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[aurelianpilled]

You will go nuts if you spend your day watching twitter or tiktok or Instagram.

realest shit tbh man, especially X for me, people are wild there

 

[Irfan Baloch]

So not digital warriors anymore?

well they (PTI faith) have proven to be beyond that. they dismissed the May air skirmish stating that it was a drama by Pakistani and Indian generals to divert the attention from releasing Khan, this genius statement was made by Imran's sister and it took a life of its own.

in my Quetta group, the followers were wishing Pakistan military gets some proper roasting by Indians which they will then use in mocking their nemesis.

the racists in my group are livid that air force attacked Afghanistan. ethnicity and democratic/ political caps are exchanged according to situation.

check the X accounts where verified accounts with PTI DP's are liking and sharing Afghan and Indian tweets .. some are very funny though I must say.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

You, my friend, expect humanity and reason from zealots who kneel before a decaying institution.....

To them, Pashtuns (esp. the tribals) are merely expendable collateral ...

Every life has value. The law of Islam is that a life must be given in exchange for an innocent life—this is the rule that should be applied uniformly across Pakistan. If this is done, 80-90% of Pakistan’s problems would be resolved. Even if I were to commit murder, I should be publicly hanged. If any innocent life is taken—whether it belongs to a Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi, or even a non-Muslim—the culprit must be punished in every case. This is the law of Allah and His Messenger as stated in the Quran and Hadith, and this is what ensures peace in society. But there are such ignorant people here who suggest nuking all of Afghanistan. These people are worse than Israeli Zionists. They have no knowledge of the Quran and Hadith, which state that after shirk, the greatest sin is unjust killing, and the first accountability on the Day of Judgment on huqooq ul ibad will be for the unjust killing of human beings...

Surah Al-Ma'idah (Quran 5:8): O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm for Allah, witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what you do.

Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:32): Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

Surah Al-Isra (17:33): And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right. And whoever is killed unjustly - We have given his heir authority, but let him not exceed limits in [the matter of] taking life. Indeed, he is helped [by the law].


Surah An-Nisa (4:93): But whoever kills a believer intentionally - his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.

in this last verse his recompense is Hell? and agar kisi ko shak hai tau quran khol kay ayat khud parh lein.. aur aap loug kah rahay pooray afghanistan ko nuke kar dein? is it a joke to you? this is you confirm earning a ticket to the hell aur iski koyi aur interpretation nahi.. innocent killing is not a joke especially for muslims agar quran pay yaqeen hai aur Allah ka dar hai tau..

 

[I*R*A]

Dear brother, where i have said that do not kill those people? find all those terrorist and also their facilitator and kill them but please avoid innocent lives. or arrest them and try them in court and then hanged them publically? brother remember a true muslim can never support innocent killings be it our soldiers or our innocent civilians. Also in this war on terror which Zia brought to the pashtoon people and area and then musharaf has killed more pashtoon people than any other nationality in pakistan. the innocent pashtoon killed are 10x more than army and all other caste combined? still you people declare us terrorist? If only zia instead of opening madrasas and training center has opened university in KPk, we would not have seen these days and we wont have this fucked up economy because when there is no peace there is no business or investment. aur akhree baat aaj tak kabhi b kisi army officer ko saza huwi hai? they are above the law and thus they will keep doing these until all pakistani people unite and bring them all under the civilians courts? aik qanoon sab kay liye aik jaisa..

Afridi Sb. none of my replies are directed at your person, nor I intend to demean you. We are just playing roles of let us say for and against. I never had the intentions nor the will or the capacity to label Pashtuns as terrorists, I have many Pashtun friends. It is a complex topic, and my serious hope is that someday people from Ilaka Ghair will drop their Ilaka Ghair mentality and join the rest of Pakistan to fight for everyone's rights.

Trying these terrorists in courts is a futile activity. Extract information and send to shooting squads. No rehabilitation is possible for them.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Given how you describe the strength of the Taliban would you say a full military operation is needed or just IBO's done by CTD would be enough to force the Taliban out?

first of all take local into confidence, then offer them to lay arms if accepted then shift them for rehabilitation where they are disciplined if not then do the full operation kill each and every one of them with the local support and avoid local casualties

 

[side-winder]

well they (PTI faith) have proven to be beyond that. they dismissed the May air skirmish stating that it was a drama by Pakistani and Indian generals to divert the attention from releasing Khan, this genius statement was made by Imran's sister and it took a life of its own.

in my Quetta group, the followers were wishing Pakistan military gets some proper roasting by Indians which they will then use in mocking their nemesis.

the racists in my group are livid that air force attacked Afghanistan. ethnicity and democratic/ political caps are exchanged according to situation.

check the X accounts where verified accounts with PTI DP's are living and sharing Afghan and Indian tweets .. some are very funny though I must say.

This is why - extremism in any sense should not be encouraged - it takes away all the ability to reason in a human being.

"Political Extremists"
"Fauji Fanboy Extremists"
"Religious Extremists"
"Ethnic Extremists"

All acting in extreme polarity against others. While considering self and leaders dhudh kay dhulay huay.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Afridi Sb. none of my replies are directed at your person, nor I intend to demean you. We are just playing roles of let us say for and against. I never had the intentions nor the will or the capacity to label Pashtuns as terrorists, I have many Pashtun friends. It is a complex topic, and my serious hope is that someday people from Ilaka Ghair will drop their Ilaka Ghair mentality and join the rest of Pakistan to fight for everyone's rights.

Trying these terrorists in courts is a futile activity. Extract information and send to shooting squads. No rehabilitation is possible for them.

na we had a respectable discussion here. and yes that can also be be done as per situation and consultation. i do not object to that but ensure no innocent is killed that is what must be ensured. terrorist and facilitators once established then sure, shoot them.

 

[I*R*A]

But what's puzzling to me is why on hell the Afghan Taliban govt is needling Pakistan

Not all and everyone from previous government fled, most of them surrendered and remained doing whatever they were doing in whichever capacity. There were already hints of Pakistan hatred in lower field level AT commanders, but I think the Elite AT later realized that if they wish to stay in power they better do what the previous government was doing.

 

[Pogic]

first of all take local into confidence, then offer them to lay arms if accepted then shift them for rehabilitation where they are disciplined if not then do the full operation kill each and every one of them with the local support and avoid local casualties

Wouldn't you say that we have already done all these steps? Issue is we get to the negative peace part but then never put out the embers of the flame and the cycle repeats. With each cycle repetition you also lose the supports of the locals so it becomes increasingly harder.

 

[Bilal]

This is why - extremism in any sense should not be encouraged - it takes away all the ability to reason in a human being.

"Political Extremists"
"Fauji Fanboy Extremists"
"Religious Extremists"
"Ethnic Extremists"

All acting in extreme polarity against others. While considering self and leaders dhudh kay dhulay huay.

This is human nature. You will find the same in pretty much all the societies. Some more than the others. But what is to be done is not to pour petrol on fire, if you catch my drift.

The harder one tries for complete compliance and uniformity of thought the more polarized and irrational the society becomes. Sometimes doing less is more.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Wouldn't you say that we have already done all these steps? Issue is we get to the negative peace part but then never put out the embers of the flame and the cycle repeats. With each cycle repetition you also lose the supports of the locals so it becomes increasingly harder.

sab say pahlay jo jhoot phaila rahay hotay jo army nay zyadtiyan nahi b ki hoti un sabko pakrhain aur ye jhoot rokhain tab ye bad gumaani rukh jaayegi laikin at the same time, the army should also exercise patience with the locals. The army's problem is that they do whatever they please. They need to meet and consult with sincere civilians and proceed together. They must abandon their arbitrary actions to build trust with them. After this, local support will also come. Then, offer them (militant TTP+BLA) the chance to lay down their weapons, or else we will go after each and every one of you to eliminate you completely. If they still do not comply and refuse to surrender their weapons, then the army should determine how and in what manner to eliminate them all—that is their job.

 

[Abdul q]

Is this prime time we get RSS declared a terrorist organisation from US..?.?? So, we can easily tit for tat without escalating …??? Do the BIG MINDS think outside of their self interests!!!

 

[That_Guy]

@Irfan Baloch @RescueRanger

Can we please enforce the no domestic politics rule in this thread?

Its getting out of hand.

 

[RescueRanger]

@Irfan Baloch @RescueRanger

Can we please enforce the no domestic politics rule in this thread?

Its getting out of hand.

Just report the posts. Will get them deleted.

 

[Ghaznavi101]

There's still no verified information.
Let's see the blowback from this in the next couple of weeks.

India will open embassy, followed by consulates by the border for intelligence and "terrorism" training. Even if it wasn't true during the Republic, it'll be now. Pakistan is keep self checkmating itself.

Let's see how the Taliban handle this, as there's really no replacement for them unfortunately.

We can all agree, sh!t has hit the fan finally!!