Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[aurelianpilled]

this stuff takes time especially with airstrikes . but some one will leak something

Chalo, 1-2 din me shayad visuals aajaen uske janaze ke, kyunke, as you said, koi na koi video bna ke post kar hi dega, agar nhi to pta nhi hamne kis ballaa ko target kiya Afghanistan ke andar ghus kar...

 

[side-winder]

Can we now stop this PTI stuff, please? Or we may need to lock this thread for time being.

 

[Musings]

My last warning - people attempting to politicise and take this thread im the wrong direction will be removed from the discussion.
If you think a post is going off topic - report it - dont join in

 

[hasssanali8998]

Chalo, 1-2 din me shayad visuals aajaen uske janaze ke, agar nhi to pta nhi hamne kis ballaa ko target kiya Afghanistan ke andar ghus kar...

yeah but i am optimistic , we will eventually get the visuals we always do . in fact i just got proof of Indian SOF operators death

 

[Meengla]

The misconceptions are very real. Heard so much of "Pakistan created the Taliban" since I was a child, that I just took it as a given. I knew about some of the factions and their histories, but this post ties up everything together, pretty nicely.

Pakistan didn't 'create' the Taliban. An excellent resource on the origins of the Afghan Taliban is Ahmed Rashid old book 'Taliban'. Basically, after the Soviets left and Najibullah fell, the Afghans, as they always do, started slaughtering each other. It was truly horrible massacres. Lawlessness everywhere. Trade convoys were forced to pay bribes to different warlords. Warlords everywhere. One particular incident in Qandahar angered the locals led by Mullah Umar to target the criminals and they formed the Taliban movement. Pakistan decided to support that faction as they seemed more sincere, more capable. It was the right decision. It is always better to deal with one stable faction who holds the power then with 20 factions.

But what's puzzling to me is why on hell the Afghan Taliban govt is needling Pakistan!!! I see no reason. I had high hopes of them when they took the power in August 2021.

 

[Distant_Observer]

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[I*R*A]

By earning their trust

How? You have repeated this twice. What will it take to earn their trust? The blood spilled by these dogs is not enough to convince these people that this needs to stop and they need to play their part? Do they wish to keep living in these conditions? Are they okay with all those terrorist attacks these dogs carried out in main cities of Pakistan .. does their trust lack common sense? Who suffered most by the actions of these dogs?

these communities can serve as vigilant allies, acting as your eyes and ears to prevent terrorists from crossing into Pakistan.

Why don't they do it now? Why does it have to be conditional?

You are making it sound like as if it is very okay for them to let these dogs cross into Pakistani territory, take shelter in their homes, share their food, plan, mobilize, execute, kill Pakistanis and go back .. but they won't inform and help Pakistan just because they distrust Pakistan?

All this because Pakistani state took their AK-47 away?

 

[hasssanali8998]

Afghan Taliban govt is needling Pakistan!

Indian like dream of conquering kpk and Baluchistan

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

So in essence we sacrificied 80k plus precious pakistanis in WOT, lost billions of dollars, violated our sovereignity, to protect our strategic depth and never giving up on our afghan ‘brothers’……for them to then to continue harbouring terrorists, killing pakistanis at will and sacrificing precious soldiers……are these the good taliban?

Pakistani Army is criminally negligible or at best simply incompetent.

Their is no dialogue possible with these cavemen. Create a buffer, build a wall and a strip of no go zone, anything that moves in that zone simply eliminate.

 

[RescueRanger]

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[Watandar]

An in depth article from 2022 when Pakistan was negotiating with TTP and had released hundreds of jailed TTP commanders and fighters, including Muslim Khan. These talks were facilitated by Haqqani faction of the Taliban. Reading between the lines, it's the Haqqanis who are in bed with TTP, not the Kandahari Taliban faction.

Islamabad Hands Over Top Pakistani Taliban Commanders To Afghan Mediators In Bid To Revive Peace Talks

Pakistan has handed over two top commanders of the Tehrik-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) to the Afghan Taliban, which has been mediating peace talks between the sides, as part of efforts to revive negotiations with the militant group, sources told RFE/RL’s Radio Mashaal.

www.rferl.org

 

[Distant_Observer]

How? You have repeated this twice. What will it take to earn their trust? The blood spilled by these dogs is not enough to convince these people that this needs to stop and they need to play their part? Do they wish to keep living in these conditions? Are they okay with all those terrorist attacks these dogs carried out in main cities of Pakistan .. does their trust lack common sense? Who suffered most by the actions of these dogs?



Why don't they do it now? Why does it have to be conditional?

You are making it sound like as if it is very okay for them to let these dogs cross into Pakistani territory, take shelter in their homes, share their food, plan, mobilize, execute, kill Pakistanis and go back .. but they won't inform and help Pakistan just because they distrust Pakistan?

All this because Pakistani state took their AK-47 away?

Stop trying to rationalize. I stopped 15 years ago.

They think by bending the knee and appearing docile and weak they will stop killing them.

From an outsiders perspective I can't tell you how weak this makes Pakistan look. There is a reason why so many nations lost respect for Pakistan during the last 20 years. Brick by brick we will put this right and establish firm deterence on our western front.

 

[Meengla]

the solution is too let TTP take over and run all the territory till Swat. Negotiations, diplomacy have been tried for over 30 years too no avail. At one point 1/6 of Pakistan was controlled by them and that still wasn't enough for them.

Right.
For ethnic or political bias, many PDF members parrot the 'our own people' or 'political solution' lines when everyone knows that the demands of the terrorists is to acquire a large territory in which to impose 'Shariat'. Lots of negotiations have happened over the decades. They were even appeased by offering to let go the past and settle down to 'normal' life in Pakistan. And I know it was General Zia who created this very large hornets nest but he is dead for nearly four decades and he is rightly cursed for his actions. No point dwelling on a past. Time is to find solutions.

 

[Broghil]

I think it would be a lengthy compaign. We cannot use fighters for an extended period as it's cost prohibitive. We need good drone coverage to take out HVTs.

 

[I*R*A]

I think it would be a lengthy compaign. We cannot use fighters for an extended period as it's cost prohibitive. We need good drone coverage to take out HVTs.

Or the Pakistani state can explore the option of upgrading Wazirs to match Mehsuds.