Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[RescueRanger]

no i meant why would u ask who is making people anti army when its pretty clear

Enough. No more petty arguments. I asked nicely you will be thread banned for derailing just like the others soon. You cant report others posts and then egg them on in every post.

That is not how this works.

 

[Distant_Observer]

didn't happen it was false , only retaliation was tirah valley ( 11 martyrs ) and police training ground attack ( 1 martyr )

The fact they have complete access to this region at will.

During Iran-Israel war, taliban had embedded their people into Iran and were planning along with Israel. That was done to Pakistan in 2005 and they have been bleeding Pakistan in KPK and Balochistan for 20 years. I am sure RAW have poured in millions over the years.

I don't care if taliban exists or not and if there are people there that want to attack Pakistan.

It's the ability to be able that is the issue and its always focused on this one area.

 

[RescueRanger]

Sorry but MQM is a political party. They have a violent wing but even ppp, pmln, anp, pti(9th May example) have violent wings. Sorry for political post @RescueRanger

Brother its okay I am just listening to Quran and praying for our nation. I suggest people do the same. They are too busy arguing to see the challenges ahead.

 

[El Sidd]

Did I warn you? Or is this a notice me senpai moment?

I didn't get a warning badge.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Every life has value. The law of Islam is that a life must be given in exchange for an innocent life—this is the rule that should be applied uniformly across Pakistan. If this is done, 80-90% of Pakistan’s problems would be resolved. Even if I were to commit murder, I should be publicly hanged. If any innocent life is taken—whether it belongs to a Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi, or even a non-Muslim—the culprit must be punished in every case. This is the law of Allah and His Messenger as stated in the Quran and Hadith, and this is what ensures peace in society. But there are such ignorant people here who suggest nuking all of Afghanistan. These people are worse than Israeli Zionists. They have no knowledge of the Quran and Hadith, which state that after shirk, the greatest sin is unjust killing, and the first accountability on the Day of Judgment on huqooq ul ibad will be for the unjust killing of human beings...

Surah Al-Ma'idah (Quran 5:8): O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm for Allah, witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what you do.

Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:32): Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

Surah Al-Isra (17:33): And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right. And whoever is killed unjustly - We have given his heir authority, but let him not exceed limits in [the matter of] taking life. Indeed, he is helped [by the law].


Surah An-Nisa (4:93): But whoever kills a believer intentionally - his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.

in this last verse his recompense is Hell? and agar kisi ko shak hai tau quran khol kay ayat khud parh lein.. aur aap loug kah rahay pooray afghanistan ko nuke kar dein? is it a joke to you? this is you confirm earning a ticket to the hell aur iski koyi aur interpretation nahi.. innocent killing is not a joke especially for muslims agar quran pay yaqeen hai aur Allah ka dar hai tau..

I appreciate your post. The issue at hand is greater than than the scope of this thread... It is foundational!
A foundational conflict at heart of the state that rides many ships simultaneously. An institution who's genesis is secular but not apolitical. The bureaucratic apparatus that seeks reasons for its existence... much of it unnecessary relic of the past ... designed to not insolent, not conducive but obtrusive, slaves to process that is broken. A fill in political process that runs cult of personality and imposed as representation through proxy.

So when anyone invokes injunctions of faith... they're to impress upon individual calling and not a systemic response. And the system is rigid and amoral... subject to process and procedures than to human plight, injustice or suffering... reflected everywhere throughout the world who's focal point rests in Gaza...hamstrung and demonic!

Innocents will keep dying because system only seeks compliance and fealty to itself and either rewards them or punishes them...

 

[hussain0216]

No one seems to have any idea about how to solve the perpetual problem of Afghanistan. But there are some things we need to ponder over.

For one, Afghanistan has borders with Iran, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, China, and Pakistan. All the other borders are peaceful and there are no major problems. Somehow only Pakistan has managed to antagonize Afghans enough that the only thing that unites them is their contempt for Pakistan. It’s a mirror image of what Pakistanis feel for India.

Pakistan’s policies have switched from one ethnicity to another, from one group to another to the point that even the majority Pashtuns, and the Tajiks, Hazaras, secular, religious, educated, uneducated, all dislike Pakistan.

Could there be the possibility that Pakistan’s wrong policies brought this about? That’s something we need to think about.

I see the mess with Afghanistan as an extension of the mess inside Pakistan. It’s bad governance which has made Pakistan itself a land of poverty and discontent. There’s not much development in Pakistan outside of a few neighborhoods in major cities.

I don’t see the issues with Afghanistan ever being resolved without fixing Pakistan’s internal issues first.

Not this endless crap




Show me on the above timeline,, WHEN Pakistan started to hit Afghans back


What do you think should Pakistans response been to this harami kaum in the 1940s, 50s, 60's and 70s?

 

[RescueRanger]

I didn't get a warning badge.

You really want one?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Sir he is Taliban mouthpiece of SM also has a meta page followed by some talib leaders. They have been hand in glove with Indians for a long time.

I understand. seeing how Afghans attack Pakistanis on cricket ground and streets its no surprise that Indians don't need to act as Afghans to post hate on Pakistan. what is disturbing is our own fellow Pakistanis joining this hatred due to their politics.

it hurts more to see Pakistanis posting hatred and mockery on Pakistani police and military dead.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Not this endless crap

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Show me on the above timeline,, WHEN Pakistan started to hit Afghans back


What do you think should Pakistans response been to this harami kaum in the 1940s, 50s, 60's and 70s?

sadly our PTI brothers are still willing to embrace them and oppose their deportation just to antagonize the army.

 

[RescueRanger]

I understand. seeing how Afghans attack Pakistanis on cricket ground and streets its no surprise that Indians don't need to act as Afghans to post hate on Pakistan. what is disturbing is our own fellow Pakistanis joining this hatred due to their politics.

it hurts more to see Pakistanis posting hatred and mockery on Pakistani police and military dead.

Sir, I whole heartedly agree. Yes there are wrongs in our society, in our country. Too many to list but right now what we need is to be unified on this one issue.

Could the DGISPR statement have been worded better, perhaps... But the thrust of his argument was lost on some. People should learn to read between the lines.

 

[krash]

That, my friend, is the trick jingoism plays on the mind..... it convinces you that asking for evidence is somehow deceitful and "disingenuous" , yet swallowing propaganda from an institution hardly known for its truthfulness is somehow virtuous...

Yet, excusing ridiculous conspiracies for the supposed absence of publicly available evidence while claiming propaganda because of latent agendas is blatantly hypocritical.

If we claim the right to bomb Afghanistan without presenting any credible proof of its direct involvement in the attack on our soil that killed 11 soldiers, or even fail to prove that TTP leadership was indeed sheltered by Taliban in Kabul, then we surrender the moral ground to protest when India invokes the same logic over Occupied Kashmir and attacks Islamabad, Lahore or Bahawalpur.....leave aside jingoism and recognize the perilous slope this reasoning leads us down.... one where might, not justice, becomes the measure of right.

Let's have you first present the proof that it was indeed Pakistan that bombed Kabul.

We settled this discussion 15 years ago, cannot pull it back out because some have found new misplaced priorities. Let me know which one of these you deny,

- Anti-Pakistan terrorist groups, including the TTP and its leadership, are present in Afghanistan and the Afghans know where they are
- TTP has claimed responsibility for this particular attack, along with hundreds if not thousands of others before, in which they have killed innocent Pakistanis
- The Afghans have not and/or have been unable to take any measures against these groups

If none, then Pakistan has every right to go after any member of these groups on Afghan soil, as per international law. Frivolous False Equivalence with Sindoor only exposes the disingenuous nature of your stand.

 

[hasssanali8998]

guy explosions in jalalabad , round 2 lesgoo

 

[Distant_Observer]

Not this endless crap

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Show me on the above timeline,, WHEN Pakistan started to hit Afghans back


What do you think should Pakistans response been to this harami kaum in the 1940s, 50s, 60's and 70s?

Afghanistan is a landlocked country. They want what's ours and we are an easy target. No other country tolerates proxy attacks like Pakistan does.

Soon the water will run out and they will try to formally invade out of desperation. Unfortunately Pakistan will have to nuke them.

Be grateful whichever province you are in Pakistan that you are under a nuclear umbrella.

 

[RescueRanger]

guy explosions in jalalabad , round 2 lesgoo

Hit them again and again and again.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Yet, excusing ridiculous conspiracies for the supposed absence of publicly available evidence while claiming propaganda because of latent agendas is blatantly hypocritical.



Let's have you first present the proof that it was indeed Pakistan that bombed Kabul.

We settled this discussion 15 years ago, cannot pull it back out because some have found new priorities. Let me know which one of these you deny,

- Anti-Pakistan terrorist groups, including the TTP and its leadership, are present in Afghanistan and the Afghans know where they are
- TTP has claimed responsibility for this particular attack, along with hundreds if not thousands of others before, in which they have killed innocent Pakistanis
- The Afghans have not and/or have been unable to take any measures against these groups

If none, then Pakistan has every right to go after any member of these groups on Afghan soil, as per international law. Frivolous False Equivalence with Sindoor only exposes the disingenuous nature of your stand.

You don't make any sense..
Try again