Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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uknwit said:
Yeah non of that is true and it is off topic as well
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All of it happened. Besides it is not off topic.

These 3-4 years was one of the best period for Pakistan´s long term security
 
Signalian said:
In a nutshell. Give KPK to Afghanistan, the problem is solved temporarily. Then they would venture into AJK and Baluchistan.

Did you ever think why doesn't ANA take training from Pakistan Forces, after all Pakistan follows NATO standards and ISAF has already trained ANA, Police and its affiliated militias. Taliban isn't interested in training from PA and doesnt want PA boots on the ground inside Afghanistan but India is welcome. So is Israel (covertly).
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Sir we trained ANA at the National Police Academy in Islamabad x 3 batches
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However during Karzai's government people like Saleh and Khalilzad created a wedge between Pakistan and Afghanistan on this front. And we know why - because they had other plans.
 
Farhan23 said:
If an extremist and trashy Indian gov´t can drive away Afghanistan and China from Pakistan is not because of them but because Pakistan itself and her own doing. They don´t realize how interconnecting and regional alliance is good towards their long term survival against an enemy that is death set on swallowing it in Bharat and for Bharat this policy is not even up for debate.

The deterence against India will descrease to an all time low.

All India needs to put more wedge between between Pakistan and Afg-Sino is nothing but just watch the Pakistanis do it for them and they will be confident enough to launch a limited military operation to take Kashmir including GB And Parts of Punjab itself lays open within the next 5-10 years all India has to do is wait and allow this Pakistani gov´t to cannibalize itself
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Who said India drove away China ? Nothing like that happened. Just today new B2B Initiatives were signed, 3 new projects were added to CPEC2, a day ago and 2 Pakistani Astronauts were confirmed in CSMA 3 days ago.

The talk of China going away form Pakistan is just another Indian Media propaganda that has no basis in reality (and is being peddled in Pakistan with political goals). Neither China, nor US have objected to Pakistan's relations with each other and Pakistan cannot court either of them without the permission of both.

As for India, they were shouting before Op. Langoor that China has left Pakistan until China sent a shipment of PL15s to Pakistan, then they said China abanoned Pakistan in the UNSC, then started crying the next day that China protected Pakistan ... and they were doing it again saying China ignored SS and sent some state car for Modi, a month ago, until China threw Modi out before the Parade.

Stop getting trapped in Indian propaganda, China Pakistan relations are totally fine and better things are happening on daily basis, you can find it all easily if you cut out through the clutter of Indian Media.
 
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Ghaznavi101 said:
In the old PDF you mentioned that you worked with ISAF. I always wanted to thank you for your time and effort. So thank you.

However, lately as with other Pakistanis your tone on Afghans is alarming. You guys need to differentiate between Taliban and Afghans in general.

We didn't want these goat fkrs in the first place, average Afghan can't say or do anything in the face of American M16 or AK47.

A lot of you blame Baloch and Pashtun culture for terrorism and suicide bombing. We've been the same for better or worse for the past 5000 years. Terrorism has been around since the 90's.

You can ignore the facts and elephant in the room, but history won't. Pashtun culture was poisoned by many Madrasas aka Taliban factories. IN Pakistan. Its just now that the chickens are coming home to roost.

That's why I am saying let's see how this aggression will result in. Taliban know they're no match for Pakistan, but they won't be fighting conventional war, but drag Pakistan into a guerrilla warfare inside Pakistan.
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A bigger factor is the aftermath of this attack.

TTP retaliation ?
The Afghan sympathizers within Pakistan ?
Did any women children die in this attack ? where is that propaganda now.
what new strategy will now TTP adopt ?
how will India assist TTP further and enhance coop/aid ?
what do AQ and IS think, are they safe ? since they are in crosshairs of US.

If US shared intel what will US ask in return.
 
M. Sarmad said:
I am familiar with the CIA reports in question, though they appear exaggerated and cannot be treated as wholly reliable..... My reference was to Soviet archival material, which makes no mention of any such intentions....Even the CIA’s own assessments remain speculative and inconclusive.... the very report you cited concedes that the Soviets were unlikely to attack Pakistan despite the alleged intelligence...
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You asked for a source I provided it - up to you to make of it what you will. Like I said - who was providing us Intelligence? Also good threat perception dictates if you suspect an enemy is about to attack you do not wait for it to make the first strike.

This principal is also enshrined in the concept of self-defence which is available to both citizens and nations alike.
 
RescueRanger said:
Sir we trained ANA at the National Police Academy in Islamabad x 3 batches
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However during Karzai's government people like Saleh and Khalilzad created a wedge between Pakistan and Afghanistan on this front. And we know why - because they had other plans.
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Yet they tilted towards India ?
and also, was it US plan/pressure that Pakistan trained ANA ?
 
Bilal said:
Aray bhai aik seedha sawal poocha tha. Yeh peheli kia shuru kerdi. Marne ki confirmation hoi ya interpretations and extrapolations hi chal rahi hien?

Qasam se sarcasm nahi tha.
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I haven't seen any news as such, if someone has seen, they can share.

Now coming back, did TTP spokesperson say anything ?
 
Aggregate said:
Who said India drove away China ? Nothing like that happened. Just today new B2B Initiatives were signed and 3 new projects were added to CPEC2, a day ago.

The talk of China going away form Pakistan is just another Indian Media propaganda that has no basis in reality (and is being peddled in Pakistan with political goals). Neither China, nor US have objected to Pakistan's relations with each other, at all.

And Pakistan cannot court both of them without them both being onboard with it, as both of them know that Pakistan needs them both. As for India, they have a habit of shouting that China is in their camp. They were doing it before Tandor until China sent PL15s to Pakistan and they were doing it again a month ago until China threw Modi out before the Parade. Stop getting trapped in Indian propaganda, China Pakistan relations are totally fine and better things are happening on daily basis, if you can cut out through the clutter of Indian Media.
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Pakistan has driven China away slowly and slowly. At this point Sino-Afg is a big allaince then Sino-Pak. India is surely creeping in and have developed good relations with both China and Afg on the back off Pakistan´s policies and lack of sight
 
Farhan23 said:
Pakistan has driven China away slowly and slowly. At this point Sino-Afg is a big allaince then Sino-Pak. India is surely creeping in and have developed good relations with both China and Afg on the back off Pakistan´s policies and lack of sight
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Please re-read your second sentence.
 
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