Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[El Sidd]

Yes, but only when we have properly humiliated them, neutralized our enemies and have left no bargaining chip available to them.

Whole concept of Respect or humiliation is a weak construct. Pakistan was attacked and she has a right to pursue deterrence but she must keep diplomacy at the front. This conflict has all ingredients to spiral out of both Af-Pak control.

Before the world developed a working relationship with them it was always us recognizing them. Why cannot they simply be our friends and behave and fulfill the promises they made?

Needless to mention but I expect you to know the importance of fulfilling promises in Islam

We cannot choose for them but we can hold them accountable of their choice.

 

[Dr khan]

Pakistan should offer realistic terms for the ceasefire or make it conditional if objectives have not been resolved.


There are no existential threats to Pakistan barring Indian water terrorism. Rest is all manageable by diplomacy.

Oh, so when did taliban accepted the durand line and relinquished its claim on attock till Islamabad
Something new?

 

[KingQamaR]

The interim Afghanistan government does not have the capacity to enforce these. Pakistan may settle for IMAFT peacekeeping mission to ensure Afghan territory does not become a launchpad for any rogue group or state.


Afghanistan does not need to go to war with Pakistan over petty criminals.

Brother. Pakistanis targeted leaders of the TTP . I’m sorry TTP are same as Afghan Taliban. Afghan traitors are allowing all this.

 

[El Sidd]

Oh, so when did taliban accepted the durand line and relinquished its claim on attock till Islamabad
Something new?

If they don't accept it, we can negotiate a new line with them by their own ways and tradition. Don't you think they know that?

 

[Bilal]

Well thats not thr official policy, till date AFGHANISTAN doesn't accept durand line and we havent told them that for any diplomatic relations they need ti accept it
Because they don't, they have an official policy of terroism...from najeeb to afghan Taliban.. everyone has followed it
No.2,3 are irrelevant because they dependent on no.1. the reason why afghan taliban support and dont manage the durand line is because they don't accept it

Its similar to what china says, you cant accept taiwan as independent state and have diplomatic relations with us... hence noone, not even USA accept taiwan as separate country

He didn’t say it’s their policy not not. It’s the core non-negotiable minimum for Pakistan.

 

[El Sidd]

Brother. Pakistanis targeted leaders of the TTP . I’m sorry TTP are same as Afghan Taliban. Afghan traitors are allowing all this.

I don't think Pakistan has claimed responsibility for Kabul blasts. It's much easier to restrict our issues to ourselves otherwise there are plenty of geniuses who are willing to make Afghans a party to our internal affairs.

 

[I*R*A]

This conflict has all ingredients to spiral out of both Af-Pak control.

Please elaborate some more on these ingredients you mentioned.

Pakistani state has witnessed continuous attacks on its personnel, people and equipment .. visited, pleaded, reminded, waited .. and in return we found out oh he lives in Kabul under protection of TTA.

We cannot choose for them but we can hold them accountable of their choice.

Accountable how?

Give a working frame work and way forward, all you are advocating for is already a tested and failed strategy.

For me it is continuous defensive war till their ego takes a huge dent and they come back to their senses.

 

[Ibbi32]

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Should push further and annex mote Afghan territory

 

[Mrc]

Taliban are yet to ask for their posts to be returned

I think we shud start consolidation process

 

[KingQamaR]

I don't think Pakistan has claimed responsibility for Kabul blasts. It's much easier to restrict our issues to ourselves otherwise there are plenty of geniuses who are willing to make Afghans a party to our internal affairs.

The day before this attack TTP MOFOs attacked Pakistani military convoy of FC soldiers resulting in 17 soldiers killed. And the swine guy who orchestrated it was sitting in Kabul

Why this swine was blown up by Pakistanis in Kabul.

 

[Be dazzled]

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It's buzzer zone time.

 

[Be dazzled]

Ain't no propaganda

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[r3alist]

Pakistanis don't have the colonial civilisational cruelty embedded in them to carry relations with Afghanistan like Iranians do. Pakistan is the only country for Afghanistan that has always held a progressive outlook for them and do not exploit history.

Assuming this is correct, then in return Pakistan has received contempt.

The interim Afghanistan government does not have the capacity to enforce these.

It is so instructive that Afghanistan under chaotic Taliban rule for a few years still wants to even raise the issue.


There is a broad point here about enforcing rule of law as the higher principle.

As a gesture of understanding there was so much relaxation over border movement

So of course the question becomes which law is ascendent.

The Taliban will assert of course they have the right to free movement as if the border is not there.


Hence we are where we are

 

[Master Chief]

We have responded. They have asked for ceasefire and mediation. It's time to talk the matter out.

This is just insecure paranoia not prevalent in the Pakistani national psyche.

The simple fact that Kabul has not recognised the Durand Line as a national border since 1947 and that the current regime has publicly embraced a role as Delhi's vassal, all despite Pakistan's attempts at sincere political rapprochement and humanitarianism for refugees, puts Afghanistan into the position of an enemy state.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

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seems there is nothing much to celebrate!

sorry, truth hurts!