Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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ToddE
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Worlds Second largest Hydrocarbon reserves (IRI does not invest in it)
Worlds 4th-5th Largest STEM grad work force (IRI makes them leave)
Without Sanctions, GDP projection like UK/France (IRI induced sanctions)
War hardened large military with Ist world superpower adversaries (even with IRI's stupid policies)
1-2 % Foreign Debt on GDP (Turkey for example has ~50%)
IRI free Iran can return to what Imperial Iran was, at one point it was worlds 12th largest economy with 4th largest Air Arm in the world to take out USSR (read operation Dark Gene), and thats before local STEM base or heavy industry was formed inside country. Revolution put a massive brake on growth but they have also created a solid foundation. All Iran needs is a massive wave of nationalism from here on.
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Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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IMO
I dont intend to lecture you,
because there is'nt much to debate really!
IR is a power nation which yields influence but not a world or regional super power!
okay, what one needs to do to be a world/regional super power!
(note none of these points, never started with the unsatiable desire to show that they have largest this and largest that aka humility!)
1. build huge water reservoirs to have cheap electricity or a leader in nuclear tech.
2. massive gold and $ reserves (that includes having the power to influence opponents decision making!)
3. leader in chip building (I mean trend setter, not STEM graduate, rather leading experts on the subject matter)
4. pioneers in philosophy and science (not determined by number of STEM graduates?!)
etc etc
your societal structure rests on your ability to extract oil from refineries which are'nt very modern!
sorry, I dont agree with you!
ToddE
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You are giving advises here after I already told above that IRI is put in charge through a Islamo-Marxist revolution to do everything in its power to keep Iran the nation weak, which if allowed can become a great power. Whats hard to understand in this?
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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advises?!!!
im pointing flaws in argument, which shows biased mentality!
even it is islamo-Marxist revolution, how come such a great power is under its influence to begin with?!!!!
dont lecture me, prove your point with concrete points based on scientific behaviours!
and
lastly, dont box my POV, as per your understanding!
revo. or not, I have gone beyond that!
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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the way I see it
you seek to find more reasons to box your biases in it!
thats not normal or healthy!
ToddE
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Islamo-Marxist IRI wasting 500+ Billion USD to fight Israel and US and getting itself crippled sanctioned in process for decades, are not my biases. They are numerical realities. These people are running Iran on 1/10th of actual GDP due to self induced sanctions.
ToddE
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By that theory, how come Russia or China the superpowers fell victim to faulty Communism ideas? How come first world civilized Europeans always end up committing genocides despite pioneers of modern civic laws, sciences? Every society on earth has weakness. Islamism and Marxism was Iran's weakness that USSR and later US exploited to keep a grip on country through inherently faulty system of government that IRI is.
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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that part I agree with, not to full extent though!
but, USA had brought loads of IR engineers before chip revolution started, that is a fact too!
that still does not mean, IR could be a global or regional super-power.
after all, revo. wont stop any body from building dams or world class infrastructure!
would be silly to think that way, IMO!
Khorasan Black Flags
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Iran’s Missile Uncovered Israel’s Secret: Military Facility Beneath Residential Tower
The website "Gray Zone," in an investigative report, revealed the existence of a secret Israeli military bunker beneath one of the residential towers in Tel Aviv. It is believed that this bunker was among the targets of Iranian missiles during the operation on June 13 (Khordad 24).
According to this investigation, "Gray Zone" identified the location of a known underground military facility called "Site 81." This facility serves as a joint intelligence command and control center between the U.S. and Israeli armies and is situated beneath the "Da Vinci" residential complex in a busy neighborhood in central Tel Aviv.
Documents, leaked emails, and Israeli reports indicate that the facility is electromagnetically shielded, heavily guarded under strict security, and was constructed with U.S. support as part of a development project covering approximately 6,000 square meters.
"Gray Zone" added that Israeli officials immediately imposed a security lockdown after the Iranian missile strikes and prevented journalists from approaching or photographing the damage in the area, especially around the Defense Ministry headquarters and the nearby Azrieli complex.
The website stated that it is suspected "Site 81" is directly connected to an older command center known as "The Pit," which was later expanded into another underground facility called "Zion’s Fortress."
This revelation comes amid repeated accusations against the Israeli terrorist regime for using military facilities inside civilian areas, while this regime accuses its enemies of using "human shields"—an act considered a violation of international humanitarian law.
www.yjc.ir
The website "Gray Zone," in an investigative report, revealed the existence of a secret Israeli military bunker beneath one of the residential towers in Tel Aviv. It is believed that this bunker was among the targets of Iranian missiles during the operation on June 13 (Khordad 24).
According to this investigation, "Gray Zone" identified the location of a known underground military facility called "Site 81." This facility serves as a joint intelligence command and control center between the U.S. and Israeli armies and is situated beneath the "Da Vinci" residential complex in a busy neighborhood in central Tel Aviv.
Documents, leaked emails, and Israeli reports indicate that the facility is electromagnetically shielded, heavily guarded under strict security, and was constructed with U.S. support as part of a development project covering approximately 6,000 square meters.
"Gray Zone" added that Israeli officials immediately imposed a security lockdown after the Iranian missile strikes and prevented journalists from approaching or photographing the damage in the area, especially around the Defense Ministry headquarters and the nearby Azrieli complex.
The website stated that it is suspected "Site 81" is directly connected to an older command center known as "The Pit," which was later expanded into another underground facility called "Zion’s Fortress."
This revelation comes amid repeated accusations against the Israeli terrorist regime for using military facilities inside civilian areas, while this regime accuses its enemies of using "human shields"—an act considered a violation of international humanitarian law.
موشک ایران، راز اسرائیل را فاش کرد: تاسیسات نظامی زیر برج مسکونی
یک وبسایت تحقیقی در افشاگری تکاندهنده گزارش داد که حمله موشکی ایران به اسرائیل، راز وجود یک تاسیسات نظامی-اطلاعاتی بسیار محرمانه را فاش کرده است.
www.yjc.ir
ShapurII
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Well, it's been officially admitted that Iran knew beforehand. I think it was Larijani or Mohsen Rezaee that said Salami knew the attack was immediate 2 hours before it happened. I don't think 30 something generals that were killed were decoys though.
I'm absolutely fine with becoming any of those countries too.
I have really high hopes for our Gen-Z. They're well-educated, cosmopolitan, and some of them are very patriotic as well. Sure, they have their own issues as well, like lack of motivation or rude language, but we're moving away from superstitions fortunately.
FUB
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They can only censor for so long. People in the know already know. If they had the upper hand, they would not buy TikTok and 1/6 of the US media to silence people.Iran’s Missile Uncovered Israel’s Secret: Military Facility Beneath Residential Tower
The website "Gray Zone," in an investigative report, revealed the existence of a secret Israeli military bunker beneath one of the residential towers in Tel Aviv. It is believed that this bunker was among the targets of Iranian missiles during the operation on June 13 (Khordad 24).
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According to this investigation, "Gray Zone" identified the location of a known underground military facility called "Site 81." This facility serves as a joint intelligence command and control center between the U.S. and Israeli armies and is situated beneath the "Da Vinci" residential complex in a busy neighborhood in central Tel Aviv.
Documents, leaked emails, and Israeli reports indicate that the facility is electromagnetically shielded, heavily guarded under strict security, and was constructed with U.S. support as part of a development project covering approximately 6,000 square meters.
"Gray Zone" added that Israeli officials immediately imposed a security lockdown after the Iranian missile strikes and prevented journalists from approaching or photographing the damage in the area, especially around the Defense Ministry headquarters and the nearby Azrieli complex.
The website stated that it is suspected "Site 81" is directly connected to an older command center known as "The Pit," which was later expanded into another underground facility called "Zion’s Fortress."
This revelation comes amid repeated accusations against the Israeli terrorist regime for using military facilities inside civilian areas, while this regime accuses its enemies of using "human shields"—an act considered a violation of international humanitarian law.
موشک ایران، راز اسرائیل را فاش کرد: تاسیسات نظامی زیر برج مسکونی
یک وبسایت تحقیقی در افشاگری تکاندهنده گزارش داد که حمله موشکی ایران به اسرائیل، راز وجود یک تاسیسات نظامی-اطلاعاتی بسیار محرمانه را فاش کرده است.
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They look very semitic
FUB
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Good move. If they stop jailing the Christian converts and allow them to worship in peace outside of the underground churches, that would eliminate another significant segment of the population from being manipulated into armed opposition by foreign actors.
If such a thing were built in the US in 2025, the Marxist jews and the globalists would have a complete meltdown. It would be a danger to democracy, they would say.
If such a thing were built in the US in 2025, the Marxist jews and the globalists would have a complete meltdown. It would be a danger to democracy, they would say.
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