ToddE
Trusted Member
Time to give up on these circus clowns.
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Time to give up on these circus clowns.
Shafagh
Registered Member
They need to go. All of them. But who will step in?
Shafagh
Registered Member
Olmert is a more liberal leaning Israeli. I don't think he would say such thing.
Shafagh
Registered Member
I must admit, these guys have a real talent for finding every opportunity to f*** up.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
who is he trying to appease? no matter how much you try to convince the Europeans and Americans that Iran is committed to peace and laws, they will still unconditionally support Israel in slaughtering Iranians. so why bother?
ToddE
Trusted Member
Democratic constitution which will elect actual technocrats chosen by people on merit, not Revolution endorsing Khamenei approved pawns from two approved camps (basically its just one camp).
BigMela2onin
Registered Member
There's no sense in leaving the NPT, khamenei said he will not go for nukes, he will never go for nukes even if it means the genocide of all Iranians. Leaving and still not going for nukes would just alienate China and Russia while providing no benefit.
BigMela2onin
Registered Member
For non-white countries, democracy is just how the west to fund the regime they want. Don't imagine a fully democratic Iran would have free elections. We saw them overturn elections in Romania and Georgia because they didn't like the outcome. Aid and loans becomes conditioned on doing what they say. A leader that pushes for national development will not be allowed and sanctions will return if resources are not allowed to be looted by their capitalists.
ToddE
Trusted Member
Still right under American nose Few countries transitioned into powers. Leadership had the will which Khamenei led Iran lost somewhere around Soleimani's assassination.
Like I said before, where we are standing right now, even a mediocre but functional leadership will be an improvement over these responsibility allergic clowns we have.
Shafagh
Registered Member
This is a very pessimistic view of it. There are levels of integration into the western sphere of influence. Iran does not have to engage all the way. That's why there is pushback from inside those western countries as well. Trump himself is a product of such pushback.
ShapurII
Trusted Member
Yes, it was Netanyahu. I remember his interview.
Ehud Olmert is less aggressive than Netanyahu, by the way.
He tries to maintain a diplomatic tone most of the time, at least in his interviews.
He usually talks about discussing with Iranians to put our differences aside and coexist.
Hard to see what they hit. If it's hitting the residential buildings of the IAF, then it explains why their personnel were hiding in schools.
ShapurII
Trusted Member
I don't know about other Iranians, but I personally would be happier if Iran turns into Saudi Arabia, Emirates, Qatar or even Turkey. These countries have surpassed us in recent years and the US has tremendous amount of influence in all of these countries.
925boy
Elite Member
Iran had enough "precise missiles" in the 12 day war, it forced Israel and US to double the # of THAAD launchers in Israel and keep restocking anti ballistic missiles..goes the next clash with Iran. Reality doesnt match your incorrect statement here.
It's obvious Iran knew beforehand, you just have to remember many targets in the country were decoys........
ToddE
Trusted Member
Iran can never become anyone of these countries. We are a very different society than Arabs or even Turkey. This is why foriegn powers keep on supporting IRI. They know what Iran will become if let loose.
