Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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Is there really any difference between those cheering the strikes in Kabul and those who once celebrated the strikes in Gaza? The Israelis, believe they are divinely ordained to cleanse their land of the Palestinians — same as we now are viewing the Taliban.
How have we sunk to such a low moral level?
nah not this bs again
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This is a regime change operation happening - 100% sure green-lit by the USA. Good riddance

This war is all about 2 things. First is the Bagram air base which was refused by
the Afghan Taliban and the other is Asim Munir's extension.

If Asim can remove Taliban and Americans can get Bagram then they will
support Asim's extension. Just like they supported Musharaf when he handed
over 2 bases to Americans.
 
graveyard part is right though

Not really. Historically many powers subdued them ranging from the Greeks to the Mongols to the Mughals.

In the modern era invading powers have had difficulties due to the demands of modern warfare, specifically the logistics that are involved with maintaining an occupying presence. Modern military equipment requires supply and logistics chain that are highly susceptible to guerrilla warfare. That is the only thing that has stood on the side of Afghanistan. Bleeding modern invading forces in their mountainous terrian

That does not matter for Pakistan. We are not invading and seeking to occupy Kabul or Herat. We can hit targets within their country without having to worry about fuel or providing spare parts to our troops and their equipment on the front lines.
 
This war is all about 2 things. First is the Bagram air base which was refused by
the Afghan Taliban and the other is Asim Munir's extension.

If Asim can remove Taliban and Americans can get Bagram then they will
support Asim's extension. Just like they supported Musharaf when he handed
over 2 bases to Americans.
here comes our resident conspiracy theorist
 
Well, if this is the new norm, then they'll think 5x before executing another terrorist attack. This iron fist approach is needed to set a deterrence. All the attacks that have been happening before were either not responded to at all, or minimally.

That had to change, our lives are not any less precious.

Plus with the world turning a blind eye, why pass up this opportunity to set it straight as it weakens India's mischievous plans.
It is not the TTA that was attacking Pakistan until recently . They were just not willing to fight the TTP and BLA. In my opinion, the attacks are not going to deter the TTP and BLA and will it more likely that TTA also starts covert action inside Pakistan.
 
This war is all about 2 things. First is the Bagram air base which was refused by
the Afghan Taliban and the other is Asim Munir's extension.

If Asim can remove Taliban and Americans can get Bagram then they will
support Asim's extension. Just like they supported Musharaf when he handed
over 2 bases to Americans.

Bagram air base back in American hands? Not going to happen. Neither in our interest nor in our best buddy China's and Asim Munir would have still gotten an extension if this war hadn’t started.
 
The USA was interested in "nation building " in Afghanistan, just like the Soviets before them, Both wanted to mold Afghanistan into their version of liberal secular societies. They failed loosing lives and money.
Pakistan is not interested in "nation building " . Afghanistan can revert to a 10th century society for all we care,
All we want is that Afghanistan should not attempt to drag us into the 10th century. There are painful consequences for Afghanistan as it attempts to do so.
@Master Chief
Precisely! The objectives are different, hence, so will be the doctrines used to achieve these aims.

However there is a small caveat to this. Multiple US/western governments certainly claimed to be nation-building in a bid to "win the peace", as this was a necessary optic in liberal, pre-populist, western societies.

I've highlighted that "pre-populist" descriptor because things have been different ever since the west embraced MAGA and populism. Now, western nations are proudly flaunting a completely self-centric identity - "what is actually and materially in it for me?".

Looking back at the last 30 years of western geopolitics, I now doubt whether even those neo-con movements of yesteryear were themselves genuinely interested in nation building. One suspects that the Blairs, Cheneys and the Rumsfelds of that era may also have simply wanted a degree of reasonably controlled internal strife in multiple nations, as this was the most cost effective method for western nations to keep factions fighting each other and out of their hair permanently. The "nation building" may all have been clever subterfuge!

Nation building is just too expensive, despite the positive optics generated IF successfully done.

In any event, that should not be our objective. Our objective is clearly to put a halt to terrorism/belligerence in and against Pakistan from Afghanistan based and/or sustained groups. If a new and better Afghanistan emerges as an accidental by-product of that, then all well and good.
 
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