Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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Khawarij dragging dead bodies of FC personnels.
What religion allows this? How can we call them brothers? How come these khawarijs still have support in Pakistan? Any mullah/cleric supporting these people should be jailed.
 
Bro there is no way that can happen. Pakistan will lose thousands of men for no reason and permanently weaken the forces against India which is incredibly dangerous. With Afghanistan it's important to leverage those there is approach with i.e. the other ethnic groups and utilize it in a positive way.

It is either a pacified western front or a two front war... with perpetual bloodletting on the western.
 
A large segment of the Taliban are essentially a pan-Pashtun extremist group that shroud themselves in an Islamic cloak to appear more acceptable.

Their goal is to seize KP, despite the fact vast majority of Pashtuns in KP don’t want to be apart of Afghanistan.

They think Afghan = Pashtun and Pashtun = Afghan

It should not be mistaken as a purely Islamist group.

My bro what do you think happened to those thousands of ANA Pashtun troops? They simply grew out their hair and grew beards, hey presto they joined the Taliban. People need to remember these guys did not disappear and worst of all these 'new' Taliban were given the security of the crossings into Pakistan. Hence why Chaman has been a pain ever since the ANA was 'defeated'.
 
It is either a pacified western front or a two front war... with perpetual bloodletting on the western.

Pakistan does not have the resources for it and I don't see any Pakistani wanting to fight in Afghanistan. The key is to steel wall the western front and hit anything that so much wants to cross over.
At the same time empower the other groups, excluding ISIS-K who are crazy.
 
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Pakistan does not have the resources for it and I don't see any Pakistani wanting to fight in Afghanistan. The key is to steel wall the western front and hit anything that so much wants to cross over.
At the same time empower the other groups, excluding ISIS-K who are crazy.

There are two options... one where the existing structure collapses where it becomes a powder keg... and everyone vying for control... or, a controlled demolition.

Remember India has official and declared border with Afghanistan... it delinks Pakistan from China! This is not hot air it is official recognized policy. Either western border is pacified or aligned... they cannot be caged!
 
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Khawarij dragging dead bodies of FC personnels.
What religion allows this? How can we call them brothers? How come these khawarijs still have support in Pakistan? Any mullah/cleric supporting these people should be jailed.
Ya ALLAH. Please accept the martyrdom of our FC Jawans. Ameen. I hope PA gives befitting reply to them for this
 
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Hope they come to realization without Pakistan ever having to do this, but establishing a buffer zone is a possibility. Maybe the Taliban will realize a better path is one of non-confrontation with Pakistan.
In my opinion, Pakistan has the ability to capture

Kandahar from Chaman Border
Kabul from Peshawar.

Both are less than 130km away. If we capture one of the two major cities, we can force Taliban and/or stakeholders in Afghanistan to come to negotiating table. Then Turkey, Saudis, Qatar can guarantee ever lasting peace with Afghanistan committing to no profileration of terrorism into Pakistani territory or else Pakistan reserves the right to target Afghanistan as well as accept Durand Line as the permanent border in exchange for return of Afghan soil back to Afghanistan.

If they don’t agree that we can create a buffer zone from Peshawar to Kabul or Chaman to Kandahar and move all Afghan residents from Pakistani soil into that buffer zone. Pakistan being the neighbour is not going anywhere so Taliban will realise the long term implications and come to the negotiating table. It will of course result to increase of terrorism in Pakistan until this is resolved but then we have witnessed terrorism for 25 years already
 
Typical Pakistani paranoia, even if Afghanistan 🇦🇫 didn't exist. It would Iranians and Central Asians in bed with Indians. There's no end to the paranoia. That's some real scars at the base of this paranoia.
Mullah should not have been so desperate to shake hands with مشرکین .
I said it before
Pakistan is hybrid regime
Mullah is full fascist regime
 
There are two options... one where the existing structure collapses where it becomes a powder keg... and everyone vying for control... or controlled demolition.

Remember India has official and declared border with Afghanistan... it delinks Pakistan from China! This is not hot air it is officially recognized policy. Either western border is pacified or aligned... they cannot be caged!

They have so much internal turmoil they are very busy with, containing does work with them.
India can say what it wants, they talk BS day and night. The key thing here is to leverage and there are plenty of options. Iran and Tajikistan are also on the same page. I can only hope the decision makers come to more sense.
 
In my opinion, Pakistan has the ability to capture

Kandahar from Chaman Border
Kabul from Peshawar.

Both are less than 130km away. If we capture one of the two major cities, we can force Taliban and/or stakeholders in Afghanistan to come to negotiating table. Then Turkey, Saudis, Qatar can guarantee ever lasting peace with Afghanistan committing to no profileration of terrorism into Pakistani territory or else Pakistan reserves the right to target Afghanistan as well as accept Durand Line as the permanent border in exchange for return of Afghan soil back to Afghanistan.

If they don’t agree that we can create a buffer zone from Peshawar to Kabul or Chaman to Kandahar and move all Afghan residents from Pakistani soil into that buffer zone. Pakistan being the neighbour is not going anywhere so Taliban will realise the long term implications and come to the negotiating table. It will of course result to increase of terrorism in Pakistan until this is resolved but then we have witnessed terrorism for 25 years already
It is not about the ability. It is about over-extending ourselves and getting drained and exhausted in a campaign that would compound our security problems.

The current trajectory is ok. If they use proxies to hit Pakistan, we attack their government in Kabul/Qandahar etc.

Their call to make. A good one would be one of peaceful co-existence with no more x-border terror.
 
It is extremely important for Pakistanis to see the GIANT MOLE within Pakistan!! I know we are in the dangerous territory of Pakistani politics: But why don't he and his closest affiliate totally 'disown' that account? You know why not because of 'plausible deniability'!!! Every good Tweet is 'owned', and every bad one is 'disowned'. I don't think there is any doubt about that but for you, a senior respectable PDF member, to not really say that is a bit strange. Mere Bhai: Is there any doubt left in your mind?!

In our current situation, India on one side, Afghanistan on other and an active war, I think army is doing equally fine in this department ... because, I have followed so many 'revolutions' in Middle East countries, the one mistake they all made, was to try to absolutely block the 'anti-state narrative' suddenly, which the enemy always deceptively piggybacks on a genuine issue (mostly 'corruption' in almost all cases as its the most relatable and does not need much concreate proofs), which then boils up. In our case the Army has maintained a very fine balance of halting the narrative to controlled levels since 2023, while suppressing the occasional violence to the point that it does not work anymore now.

I have seen and read so much material on this and the only accepted way that most experts recommend to control this scenario is to control the flow of narrative very carefully (block unblock social Media, allow Youtubers to leave the country then ban them, etc, etc, and other stuff) so people kep getting the daily fix until they get frustrated and tired of it all. Or get on with their lives and stop caring. In the end the most dedicated remain, but nobody cares at that point.

Suddenly blocking propagandas like these lead to bad consequences and things are left cemented into people's brains. This might seem counterintuitive, one would think that if it is allowed to continue, it will cement more, but in these most experts say that you need to wane off the attraction of the 'mole' .... and there is no better way to do it than the to lead people to say 'yeh tou bolta he rehta hey'. Just like a rehab, people have to be naturally allowed to get off the bandwagon, until there is very little impact of the 5th Gen warfare left out and people stop being enemies of their own state.

Humans can only have only so much of an attention span, after all. I think our army is doing pretty well in all depts, geo strategically too, exemplary performance Alhamdulillah and from all that I have learned, (yes it might get frustrating) but they are really managing the 5th Gen war very prudently, exactly as its ought to be managed. If you look into it, there are a lot of indicators that the spell has broken greatly and continues to do so, things are definitely not the same as 2022.
 
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