HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

[onlinpunit]

The F16/52 is inferior radar IE non Aesa
It's radar cross section. Is double that of Tejas
It carrys old engines and weapons three decades old ...

That's why the block 70 came you have four decades old falcons

Are you serious ! Except Non Aesa Radar F 16 is far ahead in all parameters than the jets like : JF 17, Tejas even J 10.

 

[harpy1]

Are you serious ! Except Non Aesa Radar F 16 is far ahead in all parameters than the jets like : JF 17, Tejas even J 10.

Explain how it's better

 

[onlinpunit]

Explain how it's better

Check Amy parameter
1. Payload
2. Engine Thrust
3.T/W ratio
4. Hard Points
5. Operational Range

 

[SABRE]

Here LSP series are on trial flights since last few years. So Prototype is not required.
Also there is no basic structural difference MK1 and MK1A. So those steps can be bypassed.

Each aircraft, regardless if it is a new/refined variant or of the same caliber, goes through customer acceptance flights (CAF). The customer - i.e., IAF - needs to be satisfied with each aircraft before induction.

Also, manufacturers almost always retain one or more - usually the first aircraft - as dedicated prototype or testbed to continue testing, making improvements, and systems validation even after CAF. This is done for every new variant/block. Assume, an error/fault is found later [post-production/post-induction] in the prototypes/testbeds the manufacturer can resolve the issue proactively and introduce problem solving to the inducted aircraft in timely manner rather than to have the customer find out the problem, ground the entire fleet, and ask the manufacturer to reactively solve the issue.

Hence, it doesn't matter if MK1 and MK1A a structurally the same. There needs to be a prototype of MK1A. If you look at videos of PAC or CAC you will usually find prototypes of JF-17 (including Blk 3) and J-10 (CAC only) at their plants. Lockheed, Boeing, etc., all retain a few aircraft of the new variants for continious testing, improvements, and advancements.

 

[CallSignMaverick]

Check Amy parameter
1. Payload
2. Engine Thrust
3.T/W ratio
4. Hard Points
5. Operational Range

F-16 is a different class of aircraft. The latest variants like Blk-72+ obviously are much better than LCA Mk1A but I wonder how is Blk-52 or the older MLU Blk-15s (some upgraded to 52?) fare against a Mk1A with newer electronics and sensors.

 

[onlinpunit]

Each aircraft, regardless if it is a new/refined variant or of the same caliber, goes through customer acceptance flights (CAF). The customer - i.e., IAF - needs to be satisfied with each aircraft before induction.

Also, manufacturers almost always retain one or more - usually the first aircraft - as dedicated prototype or testbed to continue testing, making improvements, and systems validation even after CAF. This is done for every new variant/block. Assume, an error/fault is found later [post-production/post-induction] in the prototypes/testbeds the manufacturer can resolve the issue proactively and introduce problem solving to the inducted aircraft in timely manner rather than to have the customer find out the problem, ground the entire fleet, and ask the manufacturer to reactively solve the issue.

Hence, it doesn't matter if MK1 and MK1A a structurally the same. There needs to be a prototype of MK1A. If you look at videos of PAC or CAC you will usually find prototypes of JF-17 (including Blk 3) and J-10 (CAC only) at their plants. Lockheed, Boeing, etc., all retain a few aircraft of the new variants for continious testing, improvements, and advancements.

A few LSP series of Tejas MK1 were converted/ upgraded to MK1A standard in 2022 itself to test and certify new avionics, weapon systems etc. After due certification and user approval Series production started in 2024.

 

[onlinpunit]

F-16 is a different class of aircraft. The latest variants like Blk-72+ obviously are much better than LCA Mk1A but I wonder how is Blk-52 or the older MLU Blk-15s (some upgraded to 52?) fare against a Mk1A with newer electronics and sensors.

Except avionics and sensors F 16 will be ahead in the rest of the parameters..

 

[Faceless]

And if HAL CMD's last interview is to be believed We may see LA-5043 roll out from the nasik assembly line in this very month making that the 12th Mk1A aircraft.

As predicted Fully assembled LA-5043 From Nasik Assembly line although with a 2 month delay (Image Dated 16 October 2025)


Partially assembled LA 5046 (to be completed by Jan 2026)


Very Early fuselage assembly of LA 5053 (23rd Aircraft)



Another fuselage is being assembled but I couldn't make out the number other than 3rd AC (LA-50XX)

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[harpy1]

Except avionics and sensors F 16 will be ahead in the rest of the parameters..

The F16 of Pakistani air force are vintage bar 18. Block 52

Airframe
Flight control
Engines
Avionics
Ew suites
Radar
Radar cross section

Are all inferior the the Tejas mark1a

You are baseing your opinion on numbers built performance against old soviet migs or the block 60/72 which are a completely different format fighter

Range and weapons load does not equal a better fighter

My comment was about the 50plus vintage block 20/30 F16 serving the Pakistani Airforce

The Tejas will see first and shoot first in bvr against F16 vintage or even a mirage 2000
That's why the Indians are building 180 planes hopefully

 

[harpy1]

comparing a flying jet that is battle tested with a jet that hasn't even been delivered .
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Pakistan May Be Forced to Retire US-Supplied F-16 Jets Amid Mounting Engine Issues

Severe engine reliability issues, shortages of spare parts, and US export restrictions have created a cascading crisis for Pakistan Air Force

tfipost.com

It's airframe and engines are fatigued
40 years is a long timebuddy
They need a serious upgrade
1990 was different generation

 

[UndercoverJIX]

Congratulations,
when are we going to see some coconut and lemon ceremony?

 

[Yasser76]

So much activity, expecting delivery now surely?

Usual clowns were loudly proclaiming this.

Oh Tejas, where art thou!?

 

[Yasser76]

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HAL has made more assembly lines (2 in last year) then actual number of planes delivered.

Not mocking, just a fact.

 

[CallSignMaverick]

HAL has made more assembly lines (2 in last year) then actual number of planes delivered.

Not mocking, just a fact.

Astra Mk1 trial was unsuccessful last time, IAF won't take it unless it gets certified even if the planes are ready.