Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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Egypt is a Muslim country, Iraq is a Muslim country. What embracing your roots got anything to do with Pakistan being a Muslim country. What Hinduism got anything to do with IVC. Our ancestors were pagans.
big difference.

we are talking about creation/foundation of pakistan. IVC has got nothing to do with it. had there been no islam, there would have been no pakistan. simple. and that began with MbQ. there may have been multiple countries following hinduism, or a part of united india.

egypt and iraq would still have been egypt and iraq without islam.
 
Rest of the Islamic world is gradually becoming more secular in it's outlook and Pakistan is turning into a fundamentalists hellhole..... piece meal measures won't arrest our decay .
Secularism in the Islamic world has usually been forced from the top by governments. Major causes include WoT, Arab Spring etc. Biggest gains in places like Iran, retreats in places like Syria and Turkey. In the West, Secularism is on the retreat, even if due to culture wars (even Dawkins is now a "cultural Christian").
The issue with Pakistan is different. Unlike Christianity, Islam doesn't have a clergy/molvi class. We landed with one due historical reasons, post-colonisation. Since Pakistan is a secular state pretending to be an Islamic state, it still needs the molvi class as a buffer between it and a majority religious population. Iqbals's, "Mullah ko hai Hind main sajde ki azaadi, nadan samajta hai Islam azaad hai", is a criticism of this class. People can sense the problem but aren't educated enough to diagnose it, so the contradiction bursts out in form of mob violence. If you don't want molvi thuggery, either become an actual Islamic state (with separate legal system for minorities) and abolish the molvi class, or go full communist and destroy your people's identity like the Russians did in central Asia.
 
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They have enough manpower to be a serious headache for the Talibs in the North.

I think it would be best if the Northern Alliance forms a breakaway autonomous state in the North of Afghanistan. Similar in pattern to how Russia made Donetsk and Luhansk breakaway from Ukraine as buffer states or how Kurds formed their autonomous state in Iraq. This is keep the Afghans especially Taliban busy and worried so that they will get the taste of their own medicine, like how they supported insurgency to breakup KPK from Pakistan.
 
She does want a separate Pashtunistan like her father.

I'm not all that involved in Pakistan's politics, as a person born in the U.S (forgive me for any ignorance), but doing my own reading into her father's politics, it seems that there's a hidden agenda for a bigger autonomy of a Pashtun-centric nation, claiming to still be apart of Pakistan. However, his daughter's postings show an uncensored reveal.

Very hypocritical and disrespectful, honestly - they claim to be against terrorism but support the Taliban regime who welcomes and harbors terrorists (TTP) responsible for massacring many Pashtuns in Pakistan, including the innocent children of APS.
 
Afganis will claim anything that their ancestors briefly captured 5000 years ago. They can f off.

Afghans (Pashtun) are also famous for claiming decent from the ancient Israelites.
 
You need to be tactical not loud
What Pakistan need is to equip it's FC with drones(saw picture so may be they learning now) backed with surveillance data from drones
If army doesnt has money to buy drones then redirect the funds from other programs like the tk129..many believe choppers are outdated any way


Training FC in this will help them be a potent force against india too

Unless military thinks of FC as bengal rifles..which just shows another miscalculation and misunderstanding by central command
Loud is required, so tonnage needs to be thrown at certain places on enemy's head to give a clear message that we possess much more firepower than you and will come stronger than ever next time. This is psychological warfare, so is tactical too. Also, Afghanistan has no AF, so sending aircrafts is again telling them, we have an upper hand and are sending aircrafts which you dont have and you have nothing to counter them.

FC has quadcopters. Their battery life is 20-25 mins, and need recharging of few hours. That gives less operational capability. Secondly, BLA/TTP have US made assault rifles with thermal sights, they wear kevlars, they carry substantial ammunition when attacking LEA's etc.

Gunships are not outdated as they still carry more payload, they can control UAVs and human input at frontlines is still required rather than the decision made from a person sitting 100s of km behind controlling drones.

FC has been taking on Afghans directly in combat, apart from TTP and BLA. They have been provided firepower by Type-69 tanks and 25 pounder howitzers. We have seen the Type-69 tanks in action recently. PA's own MBTs or artillery (howitzers) has not engaged yet. FC have been given RPGs also to take out hardened targets.


The most important point - A terrorist team has a month of planning and coordination for one target whereas FC has to stand guard and repulse all attacks 24/7 day night, not knowing what kind of attack is coming FCs way, how many terrorists will show up, what weapon will they carry, and the TTP/BLA informants might be selling fruit outside the target area.

FC has to repulse a 1-month planned attack within few minutes.
 
I'm not all that involved in Pakistan's politics, as a person born in the U.S (forgive me for any ignorance), but doing my own reading into her father's politics, it seems that there's a hidden agenda for a bigger autonomy of a Pashtun-centric nation, claiming to still be apart of Pakistan. However, his daughter's postings show an uncensored reveal.

Very hypocritical and disrespectful, honestly - they claim to be against terrorism but support the Taliban regime who welcomes and harbors terrorists (TTP) responsible for massacring many Pashtuns in Pakistan, including the innocent children of APS.

This is only tip of the iceberg. There are many years closer separatists in Pakistan.
 
I think it would be best if the Northern Alliance forms a breakaway autonomous state in the North of Afghanistan. Similar in pattern to how Russia made Donetsk and Luhansk breakaway from Ukraine as buffer states or how Kurds formed their autonomous state in Iraq. This is keep the Afghans especially Taliban busy and worried so that they will get the taste of their own medicine, like how they supported insurgency to breakup KPK from Pakistan.
Some foreign country needs to assist NA in that.
 
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Another spetacular failure of Humint from our side. State has to decide who to talk and who to not and act accordingly. These half ass measures will cause more blood and mayhem.
 
Secularism in the Islamic world has usually been forced from the top by governments. Major causes include WoT, Arab Spring etc. Biggest gains in places like Iran, retreats in places like Syria and Turkey. In the West, Secularism is on the retreat, even if due to culture wars (even Dawkins is now a "cultural Christian").
The issue with Pakistan is different. Unlike Christianity, Islam doesn't have a clergy/molvi class. We landed with one due historical reasons, post-colonisation. Since Pakistan is a secular state pretending to be an Islamic state, it still needs the molvi class as a buffer between it and a majority religious population. Iqbals's, "Mullah ko hai Hind main sajde ki azaadi, nadan samajta hai Islam azaad hai", is a criticism of this class. People can sense the problem but aren't educated enough to diagnose it, so the contradiction bursts out in form of mob violence. If you don't want molvi thuggery, either become an actual Islamic state (with separate legal system for minorities) and abolish the molvi class, or go full communist and destroy your people's identity like the Russians did in central Asia.
Pakistan is honestly one of the best Muslim countries to live and one of the best representations of Islam which reflects an educated interpretation. Turkey, Azerbaijan and South East Asian countries are definitely above us. But we are lucky we were in born in Pakistan where we dont cage our women, and do pedophilia as a national past time. We dont exploit Islam under some caveman code.
 
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As soon as ceasefire is near its expiry, they attack again..

Who saw that coming? Everyone. This is so sad. Explosive ladden vehicle - the likes of Zalmay and his wife were posting pictures of it and giving disguised threats just two days ago.

This is insane.
 
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