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German Foreign Minister Johann Wadephul:

▪️Germany and Turkey face major challenges in enhancing NATO's defense capabilities in Europe.

▪️We have decided that Turkey can increase its deterrence as an ally with the help of Eurofighter aircraft. This is in our interest.

▪️Turkey is a key strategic partner for us within the NATO alliance.

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They are feeling the heat in ther ass.:LOL:
 
German Foreign Minister Johann Wadephul:

The Eurofighter shipment to Türkiye will take place shortly. However, these decisions will be made by the companies. They can provide this information. First, we need a signed agreement. The agreement could be signed this year. Work is underway on this

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Ongoing manned Fighter Jets programs:

▪️40 Eurofighters + 400 Meteors
▪️40 F16 B70s + xxx AMRAAM C8s
▪️40 F35s
▪️~230 F16T upgrades
▪️16+ 20+ KAAN B10s (2028)

Ongoing unmanned fighter/bomber Jets programs:

▪️X Kızılelma-B/C
▪️X Anka-3
▪️X Anka-4

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German Foreign Minister Johann Wadephul:

The Eurofighter shipment to Türkiye will take place shortly. However, these decisions will be made by the companies. They can provide this information. First, we need a signed agreement. The agreement could be signed this year. Work is underway on this

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Ongoing manned Fighter Jets programs:

▪️40 Eurofighters + 400 Meteors
▪️40 F16 B70s + xxx AMRAAM C8s
▪️40 F35s
▪️~230 F16T upgrades
▪️16+ 20+ KAAN B10s (2028)

Ongoing unmanned fighter/bomber Jets programs:

▪️X Kızılelma-B/C
▪️X Anka-3
▪️X Anka-4

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Technical problems are addressed, the problem is pricing from what I have read, they are haggling over price. I think in the meantime Turkey should seal that deal with Qatar and get permission from the consortium on the reexport, b/c those planes even with the order placed will be a while before delivery.
 
Technical problems are addressed, the problem is pricing from what I have read, they are haggling over price. I think in the meantime Turkey should seal that deal with Qatar and get permission from the consortium on the reexport, b/c those planes even with the order placed will be a while before delivery.

The former British Defense Secretary said that the Eurofighters could use Turkish Missiles/Bombs

We dont need STORM SHADOW Cruise Misile and Guided Bombs from Europe for Eurofighters

This issue should also be clarified


Türkiye paid for the purchase of 40 F-16Vs, but negotiating with USA regarding the acquisition of software for the use of Turkish Missiles
 
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Turkey's Erdogan seeks to purchase 40 fighter jets from Qatar​

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Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan addresses his supporters during a meeting in Istanbul, Turkey, September 13, 2025. (photo credit: REUTERS/UMIT BEKTAS)

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The deal, facilitated by the UK, is estimated to be worth several billion dollars.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan visited Qatar on Wednesday, seeking to purchase billions of dollars in military technology, according to Bloomberg.

Erdogan reportedly requested to purchase 24 used and 16 new Eurofighter Typhoon jets from Qatar.

Britain helped facilitate the signing of a preliminary sale agreement and talks regarding the transfer of fighter jets from Qatar to Turkey in deals estimated to be worth several billion dollars, the outlet reported.



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Turkey has long been the second-largest operator of F-16 fighter jets, only second to the United States itself. The Turkish military has never operated any other foreign-produced models but is reportedly seeking to do so in efforts to deepen military ties with European NATO members and other allies.

Purchasing used fighter jets would allow Turkish forces to acquire the arms more quickly, as Bloomberg reported that new US F-16s would not arrive until 2030.

A Turkish F-16 pictured in May 2023; illustrative. (credit: Bogac Erkan/Shutterstock)

A Turkish F-16 pictured in May 2023; illustrative. (credit: Bogac Erkan/Shutterstock)
Erdogan’s stop in Qatar was a part of a regional tour including visits to Kuwait and Oman.

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The Institute for the Study of Global Antisemitism and Policy (ISGAP) issued a statement warning of their fear that the meeting was not a simple diplomatic visit, calling it a “meeting of ideological allies” whose shared agenda promotes Islamist extremism and destabilizes the region.



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Dr. Charles Asher Small, the founding director of ISGAP, assessed the cooperation between Qatar and Turkey as a representation of “the consolidation of a Muslim Brotherhood alliance.”

ISGAP’s statement described the organization’s research into Qatar’s ties to the Muslim Brotherhood extremist Islamist movement. The research reportedly documented Qatari involvement in “providing financial, media, and political support that fuels antisemitism, terrorism, and anti-Western ideology.”

Dr. Small cautioned that the arms deal may pose a threat to Western Society and the Jewish people as “Qatar and its allies are not neutral actors, but deliberate exporters of antisemitism and political Islam.”

 
"Erdogan reportedly requested to purchase 24 used and 16 new Eurofighter Typhoon jets from Qatar."

So Qatar also produces Eurofighters?
 
President ERDOGAN's statement on Eurofighter

We discussed the purchase of Eurofighter Fighter Jets from Qatar and Oman.

Negotiations on this matter, which involves many technical details, are progressing positively.

With the purchase of these Fighter Jets, our Air Force will become much stronger

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OMAN
Oman has 12 Eurofighter T-3As
The Royal Air Force of Oman has received the final pair of Eurofighter Typhoons in 2019

QATAR
Qatar Emiri Air Force received the first batch of Eurofighter Typhoons Jets in 2022

Now Qatar has 24 Eurofighter T-3As
Also Qatar ordered 12 Eurofighter T-4s


Qatari Eurofighter T-3As were equipped with ECRS MKO AESA Radar and METEOR air to air Missile
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"Erdogan reportedly requested to purchase 24 used and 16 new Eurofighter Typhoon jets from Qatar."

So Qatar also produces Eurofighters?

No - Qatar is looking to sell most of its Eurofighter fleet and existing contracts to Turkieye. Seems like the UK is ok with this. Turkieye will at this rate have quite a large and capable Typhoon fleet.

Turkieye is in a precarious position right now when you at the 'combined' forces of Greece and Israel, and she needs to bulk up fast as the geopolitical scenario seems to be hotting up.
 
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No - Qatar is looking to sell most of its Eurofighter fleet and existing contracts to Turkieye. Seems like the UK is ok with this. Turkieye will at this rate have quite a large and capable Typhoon fleet.

Turkieye is in a precarious position right now when you at the 'combined' forces of Greece and Israel, and she needs to bulk up fast as the geopolitical scenario seems to be hotting up.

Qatari Air Force has Rafale, F-15QAs and Eurofighters. Its selling its Eurofighter stock to Turkey, so that means Qatar is going to operate only two types of fighters, with more orders to fill the Eurofighter gap.
 
I think this is the Omanis and Qataris helping out. They will give current aircraft to Turks and order more to replace them. Turks in return get aircraft immediately.

No way Oman and Qatar just going to degrade defence capabilities without replacements
 
Turkieye is in a precarious position right now when you at the 'combined' forces of Greece and Israel, and she needs to bulk up fast as the geopolitical scenario seems to be hotting up.
Israelis are enough to deal with THK right now,on their own.
 
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Israelis are enough to deal with THK right now,on their own.

I think Turkieye has the edge by virtue of being a larger land mass, much better navy and better defences. Turkieye can more easily take out Israel's airbases, than Israel can against Turkieye. Israel is "all about the airpower and nothing else".

The one thing to watch, is Israel's buildup on Cyprus. That needs to be countered asap.

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I think Turkieye has the edge by virtue of being a larger land mass, much better navy and better defences. Turkieye can more easily take out Israel's airbases, than Israel can against Turkieye. Israel is "all about the airpower and nothing else".
We've debated this to the death,but I'll repeat my personal opinion,it's not that easy.

And let's just imagine the USA are only providing ammo,money and intelligence to Israelis and not actually taking part in a conflict.

Larger mass yes,that's one advantage the Turks have and a big disadvantage the Israelis have. However,the IAF has excelled in 2 things the 43 years:

  1. Flying to places thought almost impossible to reach,deep inside enemy territory and conducting strikes
  2. Taking out enemy air defences and radars with a combination of EW and modern weapons
They've developed a tradition for that.

Now,when it comes to the Navy,I still believe the Israelis can balance that with their small,but heavily-armed surface ships,coastal batteries and most of all pre-emptive strikes on Turkish Navy ships by the IAF. They have a smaller area to defend when it comes to Greece/Turkey.

Now on the land front,that's a whole different story. This is were Turkey has the massive advantage. But in order for Turkey to deploy massive forces to invade or attack the IDF heavily,they'd have to enter Syria. And I think that by the time big forces reach let's say Hama or Homs,they'd be pounded by the Israeli Air Force.

As for the ballistic missiles and all the so-called "superweapons" certain members brag about all the time here,Israelis can shoot down a big part of it,but I think their planning would be to counterattack fast or strike pre-emptively to avoid that. So unless it's an all-out surprise attack by Turkey,it would be tough to take out all their major air bases and neutralize their Air Force.

Now about the "Israeli build-up on Cyprus",that's TRT stuff.

In the late 90s or early 2000s,when they bought the S-300s,Turks went on the same tantrum "big radar,big reach,no install or war",same stuff,that's how S-300s ended up in Crete instead. Now they're afraid of Barak MX and "Israelis spying".
 
We've debated this to the death,but I'll repeat my personal opinion,it's not that easy.

And let's just imagine the USA are only providing ammo,money and intelligence to Israelis and not actually taking part in a conflict.

Larger mass yes,that's one advantage the Turks have and a big disadvantage the Israelis have. However,the IAF has excelled in 2 things the 43 years:

  1. Flying to places thought almost impossible to reach,deep inside enemy territory and conducting strikes
  2. Taking out enemy air defences and radars with a combination of EW and modern weapons
They've developed a tradition for that.

Now,when it comes to the Navy,I still believe the Israelis can balance that with their small,but heavily-armed surface ships,coastal batteries and most of all pre-emptive strikes on Turkish Navy ships by the IAF. They have a smaller area to defend when it comes to Greece/Turkey.

Now on the land front,that's a whole different story. This is were Turkey has the massive advantage. But in order for Turkey to deploy massive forces to invade or attack the IDF heavily,they'd have to enter Syria. And I think that by the time big forces reach let's say Hama or Homs,they'd be pounded by the Israeli Air Force.

As for the ballistic missiles and all the so-called "superweapons" certain members brag about all the time here,Israelis can shoot down a big part of it,but I think their planning would be to counterattack fast or strike pre-emptively to avoid that. So unless it's an all-out surprise attack by Turkey,it would be tough to take out all their major air bases and neutralize their Air Force.

Now about the "Israeli build-up on Cyprus",that's TRT stuff.

In the late 90s or early 2000s,when they bought the S-300s,Turks went on the same tantrum "big radar,big reach,no install or war",same stuff,that's how S-300s ended up in Crete instead. Now they're afraid of Barak MX and "Israelis spying".

I dont agree with your logic of military supremacy, Israel has only ever gone up against poorly trained countries that don't know how to fight. Turkiye is an entirely different domain.

As you have said, Israel's advantage is it is air force on the basis of pre-emption but I do think Turkieye is better equipped to see, and understand their pre-emption and counter it before it can become effective as a military tool.
 

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