JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

IMHO it is Option 2. The Chinese will be on board for this because it'll mean possibly more sales for them. There's no danger of tech leak for them here. However, JF17 with a Turkish radar and weapons stack will be a great selling option. It is too painful to do Option 1 technically.

what about JF-17 block 3 compatible radar complementing turkish BVR? and the delay?

 

[Ak01]

@hasssanali8998
I know about Azerbaijan-Turkey ties and I've heard these turkish ammunition for JF-17 Block 3 rumors too. But I'm struggling to see how this works:

Option 1: Integrate Turkish missiles with the Chinese KLJ-7A AESA radar and avionics? I doubt China would allow that—they tightly control their tech, especially radar/avionics and in turkey case they will definitely adhere to these control.

Option 2: Swap in full Turkish radar, avionics, AND munitions? That's no small task! It'd basically mean like redesigning a new aircraft—tough testing, years of delays, and huge costs.

Plus, Turkey's MURAD AESA radar is liquid-cooled, while JF-17 needs air-cooled for compatibility. No air-cooled Turkish AESA exists yet, so integration sounds very much difficult.

I'm no aerospace expert, but from what I've learned here, this feels way more complicated than it seems.
@JamD @arslank01 @Oscar can shed light on that

what aseem said

also, as far as i know, a NRIET guy was caught on video being interrogated by a pak kid asking about the KLJ-7A, he said it was equipped in a liquid cooled form.

The air cooled stuff im sure is just for ease of backwards compatibility, perhaps it is indeed a liquid cooled solution here and then air cooled for retrofits etc

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

what aseem said

also, as far as i know, a NRIET guy was caught on video being interrogated by a pak kid asking about the KLJ-7A, he said it was equipped in a liquid cooled form.

The air cooled stuff im sure is just for ease of backwards compatibility, perhaps it is indeed a liquid cooled solution here and then air cooled for retrofits etc

Do turkey have a comparable radar and avionics? how much time it will take it too be fully integrated and tested and okay for production? i guess it will take couple of years before starting production?

 

[Ak01]

Do turkey have a comparable radar and avionics? how much time it will take it too be fully integrated and tested and okay for production? i guess it will take couple of years before starting production?

as far as i can tell turkey is just slapping murad on everything, so probably a scaled down version of it to fit the JF-17s nose-

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

as far as i can tell turkey is just slapping murad on everything, so probably a scaled down version of it to fit the JF-17s nose-

will that scaled down version complement the BVR? or how much it will complement?

 

[Ibbi32]

And how can CHINESE AVIONICS and TURKISH WEAPONS communicate each other without CHINESE AND TURKISH SOURCE CODE INTEGRATION on Azerbaijani block-3 JF-17?

Jf-17 is coded in C primarily if turks agree to integrate translation layer from Ada which is nato standard to C it shouldn’t be that hard

 

[ghazi52]

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[puttputt]

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I wish the PAF would at least buy more JF-17Bs. It's such a nice-looking plane, but seriously, could be a good platform to drive SOW deployments using AZB, Ra'ad/Taimur, etc.

 

[studsmart]

as far as i can tell turkey is just slapping murad on everything, so probably a scaled down version of it to fit the JF-17s nose-

why scale dawn, or you mean modified version to fit in JF17

 

[Ak01]

why scale dawn, or you mean modified version to fit in JF17

jeff nose smaller than f16

 

[salaar]

I'm sure we'll get more pics and videos of all 5 aircraft over the coming days and we can check whether they include numbers all the way to 328.

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@Pakistan Space Agency, kindly take a look at the serial no. of left aircraft

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

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@Pakistan Space Agency, kindly take a look at the serial no. of left aircraft

It seems like 24-322 as posted earlier.

 

[Dreamer]

It seems like 24-322 as posted earlier.

Both 322 and 324 are visible in the video separately. 322 lands at 0:31 and 324 at 0:45. Also 324 appears while air refueling at 0:12.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Both 322 and 324 are visible in the video separately. 322 lands at 0:31 and 324 at 0:45. Also 324 appears while air refueling at 0:12.

My eyesight is not good as your's, brother.