Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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A parallel:
The so-called "Indian Peace Keeping Force" in Sri Lanka fighting the Liberation Tigers was facing suicide bombing attacks killing 100s of soldiers,
A western defense expert said
" If I were the commander of the Indian Peace Keeping Force in Sri Lanka, I would drive my BMP. IFVs straight into office of the DGMO and RAW headquarters in Delhi. There are enough senior Indian Tamil generals and brigadiers in those offices who pass intelligence to the Tamil Tigers such that they know the strategy much before the Indian Army commanders in Sri Lanka know it. "

We maybe in a similar situation.
Doubtful. Why on earth would Pakistani pashtuns want to support any movement that devolves them into Afghanis?

The problem is not with the military or any disunity therein.

If RAW could have facilitated such treachery in Pakistani ranks, they would have done so by now.

We know where the problem lies. For now, one assumes there is a deeper layer of statehood that is overriding the garbage we see being propagated at the visible state level.
 
A parallel:
The so-called "Indian Peace Keeping Force" in Sri Lanka fighting the Liberation Tigers was facing suicide bombing attacks killing 100s of soldiers,
A western defense expert said
" If I were the commander of the Indian Peace Keeping Force in Sri Lanka, I would drive my BMP. IFVs straight into office of the DGMO and RAW headquarters in Delhi. There are enough senior Indian Tamil generals and brigadiers in those offices who pass intelligence to the Tamil Tigers such that they know the strategy much before the Indian Army commanders in Sri Lanka know it. "

We maybe in a similar situation.
A parallel:
The so-called "Indian Peace Keeping Force" in Sri Lanka fighting the Liberation Tigers was facing suicide bombing attacks killing 100s of soldiers,
A western defense expert said
" If I were the commander of the Indian Peace Keeping Force in Sri Lanka, I would drive my BMP. IFVs straight into office of the DGMO and RAW headquarters in Delhi. There are enough senior Indian Tamil generals and brigadiers in those offices who pass intelligence to the Tamil Tigers such that they know the strategy much before the Indian Army commanders in Sri Lanka know it. "

We maybe in a similar situation.
Well incompetency of such level should be considered treachery
 
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So what negative development mean here? Afghan terrorist tashkeels? Otherwise terror attacks are ok? Or we are going back accepting terrorism like before?
 
Literally everybody predicted this happening, you can't undo 70 years of cuck mentality.
surely this is a tremendous bonus


Whether you consider a cuck mentality, this seems to be a personal choice

The whole let's be friends and brothers, Pakistanis should not beat themselves about it too much, okay I'm trying to put a good spin, but at least you have given them the benefit of doubt and therefore any subsequent action is unambiguous, that's something

Also, as of now capabilities have developed so it's not just brute strength, in that sense with a favorable geopolitical environment, a superpower or two behind you, this could be the time to redress the past...you can take the glass half full view
 
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**** laura bar pashtunists live in their own fantasy world.

This party is a political wing of TTP, you can not find their single statement against ttp. While every political party been attacked by ttp including Jui and anp but never pti. imran khan is an ultra ethno nationalist leader even more nationlist than Manzoor Pashteen, manzoor pashteen at least criticise ttp but for imran khan all pashtun parties whether its secular ptm/achakzai or its ttp terrorist all are beloved for him cuz they are pashtun.
When he was in power even speaker and deputy speaker, and top party position aleem/jahangeer , all were Pashtun.
So dont expect anything from pti against TTP
 
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For a nation invaded by 4 different countries in the space of 100 years they sure like to talk a big game...
 
Doubtful. Why on earth would Pakistani pashtuns want to support any movement that devolves them into Afghanis?
I hate to sound depressing and cynical but this was exactly the situation in 1971 when we were heavily compromised by sub-nationalist Bengali speaking army, air force, and navy senior officers, serving in the then West Pakistan. What happened in the then East Pakistan doesn't have to be repeated.
The problem is not with the military or any disunity therein.
Hopefully what you are saying is correct but even a handful of traitors can make a huge difference.
If RAW could have facilitated such treachery in Pakistani ranks, they would have done so by now.
It is unlikely that RAW has given up trying. BTW the Afghans are past masters at infiltrating and undermining the adversary from within. This happened to the Soviet supported Afghan Army in the 1980s leading to a collapse in 1990 and exactly the same thing happened to the US-NATO supported Afghan army under Hamid Karzai & Ashraf Ghani in Afghanistan.
The TTA/TTP hope to replicate the same strategy with the Pakistan armed forces. The Afghans hope to split the Pakistan Armed Forces on ethnic lines similar to the way the Arned Forces split along linguistic ethnic lines in the Civil War in then East Pakistan.

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I mentioned the Indian Peace Keeping Force in Sri Lanka and the disaster that befell it ( including the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi) in all seriousness. It is no secret why the IPKF failed and why it suffered 6000 casualties and why India could not prevent the assassination of its ex-prime minister Rajeev Gandhi. Remarkably the killers of Rajeev Gandhi got off scott free.

Sub-nationalism in India is as common as it is anywhere in the world.
 
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So much maligning of Pakistan and army, justification of anti-Pakistan, anti-army, pro Taliban narratives based on this assumption:

"unjustly imprisoned" and other assumptions like these ...

this is used to justify any and all actions. Once this word/assumption/belief is introduced, any illegal act can be justified. No cooperation with jailers, attacks on army, institutions, maligning of Pakistan, resistance to follow laws, street violence, killing law enforcement officers, advocating violence, all can be justified.

But none of us are the judge and jury on what goes on behind the curtains, are we ? If this as unjust, then was the California case unjust too ? Was the declaration to become PM not false in the fist place ? And this is only just one example, I can cite dozens more. Should that not be a moral ground to question if someone needs ot be accountable in the first place regarding themselves ? Rather than poisoning minds of 2 generations against one's own country ? Are morals only left out for others to follow ?

One person is always innocent even if proven guilty, while others are guilty even if proven innocent. I for one criticize anyone where they are wrong and many of us do. But this seems to be the new rule of law for some Pakistanis and anything based on this assumption is justified. This sir, is far, far off from how ones who hold others to moral standards, should conduct themselves. Most of all, to those who poison the minds of the people, based on assumption that they are the most moral ones.
In this case, what is it that IK has done that has been illegal? What did he ask his party to do that was illegal?

Youre basing your assumption on ik being guilty, and anti-Pakistan, which isn't the case at all.

His personal life aside, you have failed to prove anything. The "california case" as you put it means nothing.
 
I think they are just cowards. The must evil "state" will do is put some PTI leaders in jail for few years meanwhile going against TTP mean getting bombed and killed like ANP. So as long as TTP leave PTI alone like since 2013 all its well, rest of KPK can go to hell.

ANP isn't given enough credit for taking on terrorists in KPK.

It's just more confirmation we can't have people like these running Pakistan.

I wish KPK would produce a pro military Pakistan first fascist leader to help guide the provincial discourse.
 
It's just more confirmation we can't have people like these running Pakistan.

I wish KPK would produce a pro military Pakistan first fascist leader to help guide the provincial discourse.
Im sorry, what? You want a fascist leader?

Fascism has never worked, nor produced desired results.

All it does is destroy.

Learn what fascism is first, before you ask for it.
 
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