Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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The ex FATA area has to be brought the national average level. I believe 100 billion was to be spent yearly contributed by all provinces. Don’t know what happened to it.
Education is very important. in ex FATA the first priority should be to open schools. if i am not wrong there will be more than 90% student whod didnt go to matric and more than 60% not going to school and there are no schools especially the bordering areas
 
he might as well order the goverment rest houses renovated for the TTP guests when they come over to attack the police and paramilitary forces.
Sir with due respect now you with your hate is crossing the threshold. he is stupid and a fan of imran khan which i dont like but he is the first CM from ex tribal area and is in no way in favor of taliban or TTP. He wants peace thats it so please bas kar dein ap punjab walay har kisi pay ghaddaari ka fatwa na lagaya kren.. yes we have soft corner for people in afghanistan why? first they are muslims and second they are pashtoon also and we have family relations with them but it does not mean we wanted to be their part? they have banned female education and even recent internet ban which is taking those afghan people back to stonge age area which is totally wrong we want education especially in STEM and peace for us and for them as well.

Kabhi ghaur kiya hai? jis baat pay aap ghussa hain aam awam especially PTI jo poori army kay khilaaf bhak rahi hoti.. you are doing the same as you have started hating whole PTI balkay most of pakistani and all of KPK? instead of being mature aur dono side ki ghalat ko ghalat kahnay aur peace aman ki baat karnay kay bajaaye ap dosri side kay extreme pay aakay ab khail rahay?
 
The unspoken truth right here.

The fact is there are major ethno-nationalist/separatist sentiments in both those provinces and that's what allows Afghanistan to continue making those claims, it's hoping to give them enough support that they attempt a rebellion.

The second biggest issue for Pakistan is that Afghans genuinely don't care about their lives, they'll gladly eat bombs. There is no way you militarily pacify them without doing extreme things. I doubt Pakistan has the balls to do that or the international support for long.

It's not bombs

It's simple closure of border, denial of ports and curtailment of trade that harms Afghanistan

Bombs are just a plus to target HVTs or build ups of enemy fighters
 
Did you check her timeline or not? 🥰
Yes. I think we have different threshhold. She is defaming at some places but not involved in anti-national activities. Perhaps, you may know more as you consider Moeed on payroll and a pseudo intellectual.
 
@hussain0216

Brother Hussain,

It's simple closure of border, denial of ports and curtailment of trade that harms Afghanistan

The problem is the blockade will be broken by smuggling with the connivance of authorities.

Regards
 
@r3alist @Master Chief

I'm going to add something which will undoubtedly get the ethnology-supremacists incredibly. I can tell just by reading the comments - there is a strong under-current of hatred towards Pashtuns in KPK masked by using vulgar language against the Afghans. I have no love loss for the Afghans. I have personally dealt with their behavior in three separate continents.

This has come down to Muslims vs MINOs. I've shy away from using these terms but it has come to do that. KPK and Afghanistan are conservative and more in line with Islamic values than Lahore, Islamabad, and Karachi. The MINOs ruling Pakistan think that by assigning these terrorists cute-sy Islamic names as Kwarjites or whatnot - that the PR battle is won. The truth is - many Pakistanis who are still practicing Islamic values across the four provinces - I can see why they would provide support to the TTA and TTP ideology.

The state uses Islam like a tissue paper whenever it needs to suppress people or to support foreign initiatives that negatively impacts Muslims across the wider MENA.

Non-KPK areas of Pakistan are utter trash socially and culturally. The cities of Pakistan are infested by liberal western ideologies pushed by "Elite" US universities - who we now safely confirmed are J*w led which pushed BLM, Open borders, LGBTs, Promsciouslity under the guise of "freedom." But actually it was to mentally subjugate black and browns Global South. Pakistan is in fact just as wrapped up in all of this as the others many here make fun of.
Nudity, drinking, LGBT, Zionist-Christians are running amok freely across Punjab.

If you give two choices to the people of Pakistan - either have a rule under TTA/TTP or the regime that was left behind in 1947 - who do you think they will support? I could literally see the current regime just as easily siding with their Hindu cousins next door against Muslims and Pakistanis who would want a Sharia compliance country - which its not at all at this time.

I traveled to Gilgit and many Non-northerner Pakistanis dressed provocautely. The people of Gilgit are noble and upright. Too respectful and honorably to beat the living lights of the beta males that often bring these girls to the northern areas (on long-getaway weekend). Many northerners complaint about this but they can't do anything about it which leds me to believe the state of Pakistan is deliberately is pushing this lifestyles across Pakistan. On some level, I have to applause the people of KPK for standing up for their ideals and values. This is a bigger issue than just TTA or TTP.

In short - the deislamization of Pakistan is in full swing. I am not asking to become Iran or Afghanistan - but what you have is a half-a**ed attempt at both Islam and Western values. The state knows its Islamic credentials are dog-sh*t and hence the TTA is taking full advantage of it. The attacks on Pakistan are directly tied to the current system and its incompetency and inability protect the people of Pakistan. I am still waiting for 2,000lbs air strikes on Indians....

Hmm interesting

You dont think it's anything to do with harami afghanis blowing themselves up or creating decades of fassad
@hussain0216

Brother Hussain,

It's simple closure of border, denial of ports and curtailment of trade that harms Afghanistan

The problem is the blockade will be broken by smuggling with the connivance of authorities.

Regards

Smuggling is always going to be limited and can be stamped down upon, smuggling also does provide taxes to Afghanistan

Afghanistans main taxation comes via trade with or through the Pakistani border

You cut that and Afghanistan is in major trouble
 
The Greater Afghanistan is just an imaginary entity that never existed and will never exist in reality. It was never supported by Pakistani Pashtuns, who opted to join Pakistan through a referendum without any outside interference or coercion.

As a respected Pakistani Pashtun commentator has mentioned, the Durand line was never a real issue. It was first instigated by Nehru in 1946-47 and raised by only the Afghanistani Pashtuns who cannot digest a relatively peaceful life and progress/development in Pakistani Pashtun province.
Why is everyone obsessing over this "greater Afghanistan" thing? Even half of Afghanistan doesn't want that.
 
Sir with due respect now you with your hate is crossing the threshold. he is stupid and a fan of imran khan which i dont like but he is the first CM from ex tribal area and is in no way in favor of taliban or TTP. He wants peace thats it so please bas kar dein ap punjab walay har kisi pay ghaddaari ka fatwa na lagaya kren.. yes we have soft corner for people in afghanistan why? first they are muslims and second they are pashtoon also and we have family relations with them but it does not mean we wanted to be their part? they have banned female education and even recent internet ban which is taking those afghan people back to stonge age area which is totally wrong we want education especially in STEM and peace for us and for them as well.

Kabhi ghaur kiya hai? jis baat pay aap ghussa hain aam awam especially PTI jo poori army kay khilaaf bhak rahi hoti.. you are doing the same as you have started hating whole PTI balkay most of pakistani and all of KPK? instead of being mature aur dono side ki ghalat ko ghalat kahnay aur peace aman ki baat karnay kay bajaaye ap dosri side kay extreme pay aakay ab khail rahay?
Don't take it to your heart , it's just a competition of witts and patriotism.....on a serious note,...how can you open schools in terrorism infested areas ? When Teachers aren't willing to go there and parents are not willing to send their kids to school .
 
We can work for peace and trade with both Afghanistan and India. With India, Kashmir is on a back-burner so no need for enmity now. Indians are also expert in their work as they have experience of the creation of Bangla Desh and also with Tamils in Srli Lanka and their own South. We should normalize relations with both India and Afghanistan. The economic condition of Pakistan is no good and trade from both East and West will contribute to decreasing the prices of Agricultural commodities.

We should have a Free Trade Agreement with both Iran and Afghanistan as they are complementary to our own production.

The problem with TTP can be handled easily by having a modern version of Sharia in Pakistan. The moral punishments in Sharia have been negatively highlighted by the Western media and governments as a policy.

It is the economic model of Islam, which is much better than both Capitalism and Communism. It is at a mid-point between these two extreme positions. One can look at the economic system in Norway and Sweden where there is a freedom to own property and do business coupled with a very good system of social security, education, health etc. for the poor. Interest is a Jewish concept and makes a slave out of individuals and entire nations. Islamic banking promotes and encourages business based on a sharing of profit and loss. But Jewish banking just want profit and no share in case of loss.

Quaid-e-Azam rightly said that Pakistan will the the laboratory of Islam. We have the guidance in the form of the Objectives Resolution which should be implemented in form and spirit.

Dr. Israr Ahmed (Late) used to say that Pakistani nation is heading toward Allah's wrath because we promised that we will make a homeland based on La Ilaha Illal Lah and when we got that after heavy sacrifices, we implemented Western Democracy.

We are neither here nor there, and should rise above being a for hire nation.
 
Conspiracy theory.

The same reasons why Afghans weren't forced to leave Pakistan before.
Conspiracy theorists just parrot what their so called leaders tell them to say. I was just mentioning the point that most of the negative comments about this war are not based on their wish to unite with Afghanistan. But mostly their opposition is based on different political reasons.
 
The state uses Islam like a tissue paper whenever it needs to suppress people or to support foreign initiatives that negatively impacts Muslims across the wider MENA.

This is somewhat true, I dont accept the language, but so is everyone

I could literally see the current regime just as easily siding with their Hindu cousins next door

Hmmm, who just went to India, where is the principled stance?

The attacks on Pakistan are directly tied to the current system and its incompetency and inability protect the people of Pakistan

So violence solves this? Here is the nub, if you want to hold higher Islamic values then follow the path of righteous behaviour, otherwise who is using Islam here to push politics

and Afghanistan are conservative and more in line with Islamic values than Lahore, Islamabad, and Karachi.

Yes, ok, what about the rest? I mean economy, women's rights per Islam, law and order,

You have here a dichotomy of social conservative Vs not, transposed to regions... that feels insufficient or not everything.
 
We can work for peace and trade with both Afghanistan and India. With India, Kashmir is on a back-burner so no need for enmity now. Indians are also expert in their work as they have experience of the creation of Bangla Desh and also with Tamils in Srli Lanka and their own South. We should normalize relations with both India and Afghanistan. The economic condition of Pakistan is no good and trade from both East and West will contribute to decreasing the prices of Agricultural commodities.

We should have a Free Trade Agreement with both Iran and Afghanistan as they are complementary to our own production.

The problem with TTP can be handled easily by having a modern version of Sharia in Pakistan. The moral punishments in Sharia have been negatively highlighted by the Western media and governments as a policy.

It is the economic model of Islam, which is much better than both Capitalism and Communism. It is at a mid-point between these two extreme positions. One can look at the economic system in Norway and Sweden where there is a freedom to own property and do business coupled with a very good system of social security, education, health etc. for the poor. Interest is a Jewish concept and makes a slave out of individuals and entire nations. Islamic banking promotes and encourages business based on a sharing of profit and loss. But Jewish banking just want profit and no share in case of loss.

Quaid-e-Azam rightly said that Pakistan will the the laboratory of Islam. We have the guidance in the form of the Objectives Resolution which should be implemented in form and spirit.

Dr. Israr Ahmed (Late) used to say that Pakistani nation is heading toward Allah's wrath because we promised that we will make a homeland based on La Ilaha Illal Lah and when we got that after heavy sacrifices, we implemented Western Democracy.

We are neither here nor there, and should rise above being a for hire nation.

Care to cite examples of neither here nor there? No laws repugnant to religion can be formulated in Pakistan. If Talib means student, they can study Pakistan movement and Pakistani constitution and get enlightened anytime they like.

A reference to Qauid's quote would also be appreciated regarding state sponsored state religion and right of government to experiment accordingly in executive authority.

Objective Resolution was framed after the death of the Founder of Pakistan. It's considered a brainchild of Nawab Liaquat.
 
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