Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

If Pakistan is attacked, then Pakistan should strike the "specific states" undergoing elections, so that the Indian voters know that they are being targeted because Modi wants their votes. They should have the opportunity to reflect on this in the voting ballot box of how stupid Modi thinks they are.
Agreed while I hope Pakistan avoids civilian casualties as much as possible in such strikes.
 
Pakistan is well prepared but India is also well prepared. We should send them a message like we don't want war and things can be solved through dialogue. These guys are totally out of control. We can use different countries to send our message to India. Come and talk. We as a country, will never allow any territorial loss. These guys thinks that nuclear weapons can be stopped. well you may hit few but not all. India is behaving like a rogue country with nuclear weapons. This is madness.

Inda is big, big country. It's hard to repel thousands of soldiers. Country is already fighting on afghanistan front. Talk to them. Send them message. Whatever India is doing is wrong.
Reading Pak afg conflict thread is kidna deja vu.The opinion what pak posters have about Afg was similar to what ind posters has in May conflict.The region has entered a new chapter where threshold are low for military action It can lead to instability .But Most Indian thinktank know there is nothing to gain from conflict with Pakistan.Pakistan really has lack of resource .It Serves as a barrier from Afghanistan for India.There is no strategic gain for conflict except emotional.
 
What Indian Govt has done is massive Subsidies for poor . Basically They have Given free education, Healthcare,Ration.Insurance.Old age pension for Poor to lift them.Most Schemes are women centric .Most States give yearly one lumpsum amount to women.Free Meals at school to Encourage Education and so on.As Revenue grows they are afford it.

haha...
convenient truth!
 
Pakistan is well prepared but India is also well prepared. We should send them a message like we don't want war and things can be solved through dialogue. These guys are totally out of control. We can use different countries to send our message to India. Come and talk. We as a country, will never allow any territorial loss. These guys thinks that nuclear weapons can be stopped. well you may hit few but not all. India is behaving like a rogue country with nuclear weapons. This is madness.

Inda is big, big country. It's hard to repel thousands of soldiers. Country is already fighting on afghanistan front. Talk to them. Send them message. Whatever India is doing is wrong.
I have to disagree with the conventional wisdom here. This isn't just about counting heads or hardware anymore.

The days that India's sheer numbers guarantee a rapid conventional victory or rather a "dash" across the LoC is long gone especially with satellites able to detect mass formation of military personnel.

Russia until today has failed to dominate Ukraine completely despite it's massive forces and close to 4 years later. Let's not forget, India is not Russia, and Pakistan is not Ukraine.

Our modern armed forces, particularly the Air Force, are highly advanced and technologically integrated. Any large-scale ground deployment would be met with overwhelming, precise force, leading to its destruction before it could secure any Pakistani territory. The fundamental reality is that India cannot and will not dominate our airspace, which is vital for securing our territory.

Victory isn't merely a calculation of a larger conventional force and manpower. The true determinants of war are courage, the will to fight, and superior tactics. That's what ultimately tips the scales. It's time to have more faith in our deterrence capabilities. We must allow for fair criticism, but let's drop the fear of impending doom just because India has a stronger economy and a larger conventional force.
 
PN and PAF kept a larger IN and IAF at bay.
How do you know it?
How would PN know that they were able to keep all IN assets at bay? Couldn’t IN have something up it’s sleeve that PN didn’t know about?
I can post a picture of 90% PN Ships docked at Gwadar port during those days in May to bring out many things and make many claims. The remaining PN fleet was keeping entire IN at bay?

JFT was deployed for taking out a motorized radar (S-400) and then a stationary target (brahmos storage).
Both of these are claims with no confirmation of any sort. A successful strike on a Brahmos storage site would have caused fireworks of a very high magnitude.
Remember the fire at Nur Khan? It was captured by NASA’s satellite network deployed to detect fires across the globe. Fire at a missile storage site would have been bigger than that and caused more commotion than anything else.

You propagating the theory, that Pakistan had upper hand in all domains doesn’t sound Think Tankish.
 
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Reading Pak afg conflict thread is kidna deja vu.The opinion what pak posters have about Afg was similar to what ind posters has in May conflict.The region has entered a new chapter where threshold are low for military action It can lead to instability .But Most Indian thinktank know there is nothing to gain from conflict with Pakistan.Pakistan really has lack of resource .It Serves as a barrier from Afghanistan for India.There is no strategic gain for conflict except emotional.


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delulu dweller!


you are free to think!

Pak. is not Afgh. nor Ghana nor Congo nor Sudan..

but your significant population is living under the same conditions!
 
I suggest avoiding emotional discussions with TallGuy and Arsalan345 - they were panicking the same way back in May 2025 and they turned out to be wrong. High emotional.

Pakistan always surprises us, so just relax.

lets not make it personal - we all have opinions, and we can agree to disagree that is what a open forum is about.

I hope you are 100% correct - yes! yes!

just to remind you i am also in the same boat as you are!
 
What Indian Govt has done is massive Subsidies for poor . Basically They have Given free education, Healthcare,Ration.Insurance.Old age pension for Poor to lift them.Most Schemes are women centric .Most States give yearly one lumpsum amount to women.Free Meals at school to Encourage Education and so on.As Revenue grows they are afford it.

If India or Pakistan had any appetite for war, they would have escalated it in May, not backed out after 4 days. Things just kind of backfired too far, for India's comfort, so this time India will try it in a more safer way. As before, both will go for a media narrative, celebrate whatever they can do and then back out when things start getting too serious.

Its so obvious now that both sides don't actually want to fight, despite how much everyone wishes for it / suspects it.
 
How do you know it?
How would PN know that they were able to keep all IN assets at bay? Couldn’t IN have something up it’s sleeve that PN didn’t know about?
I can post a picture of 90% PN Ships docked at Gwadar port during those days in May to bring out many things and make many claims. The remaining PN fleet was keeping entire IN at bay?


Both of these are claims with no confirmation of any sort. A successful strike on a Brahmos storage site would have caused fireworks of a very high magnitude.
Remember the fire at Nur Khan? It was captured by NASA’s satellite network deployed to detect fires across the globe.

You propagating the theory, that Pakistan had upper hand in all domains doesn’t sound Think Tankish.
Normally I ignore indians in this forum.

@Oscar @RescueRanger @Panzerkiel I have high respect for you guys and dont mean disrespect by tagging you guys.

But this guy is right. We need our Pakistani brothers to stop dreaming and realize that we cant keep everyone at bay so easily. may incident was skirmish. In skirmish we won, for the battle we need more than what we did in may.

The upperhand in all factions and domains is not reality.
 
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delulu dweller!


you are free to think!

Pak. is not Afgh. nor Ghana nor Congo nor Sudan..

but your significant population is living under the same conditions!
My Naive Friend .I did not say pak is same to Afghanistan.The Reaction to terrorist attack and Pak posters wanting revenge and blood and being disappointed at stopping of conflict is same as what Indian posters on reddit or other forums were wanting in May conflict.The point is now bar is low for conflict to break out in the region
 
If we set up those installations in some remote areas of Balochistan who would pay the cost of electric lines, roads, water pipelines, HR?

who would pay? what do you think how much it will cost if it gets destroyed?
 
Aren't:

- Army chief in Egypt?
- Air chief in Romania?
- Navy chief in US?

Would have thought that all three would have rushed back if this was as serious as we are assuming here.

Also - no major warnings from Khawaja Asif or anyone else of note - not recently at least. Everyone seems chill.
 
If India or Pakistan had any appetite for war, they would have escalated it in May, not backed out after 4 days. Things just kind of backfired too far, for India's comfort, so this time India will try it in a more safer way. As before, both will go for a media narrative, celebrate whatever they can do and then back out when things start getting too serious.

Its so obvious now that both sides don't actually want to fight, despite how much everyone wishes for it / suspects it.
Really both countries gain nothing.I hope Pakistan really find some Oil and Rare earth as only Growth of Pakistan economy can lead to peace in the region.
 
I am advisor of the group working on indo pak war modern warfare. I am helping students design tanks and artillery that will be in environment fighting like NPC as its FPS game. So I tried to make Alkhalid or chinese tank desing. here it is. Game will be based on India attacks Pakistan and Pakistan army has to defend it wave by wave. One group will make game on armor and other on fps then both modes will be combine into single game. When its done next year ill invite you guys to test it.

CAMO is random. Will try to add more accurate one later.
Is this going to be a AAA game?
 

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